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Cool. Reminds of way back in the day I would buy basically the same thing except it was in these beautiful huge coffee table books. Even back in the eighties they were almost a hundie apiece. They advertised them in the back of Road and Track. I have no idea what happened to them, love to find 'em.

There's still something about big shiny pictures that video can't replace.
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A BD of last year's F1 highlights will be released at Amazon on the 20th.

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Cool. Reminds of way back in the day I would buy basically the same thing except it was in these beautiful huge coffee table books. Even back in the eighties they were almost a hundie apiece. They advertised them in the back of Road and Track. I have no idea what happened to them, love to find 'em.

There's still something about big shiny pictures that video can't replace.

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I believe it was Autocourse,lots of great pics and race reports.

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Autocourse has always been a high quality magazine. I get their F1 calendar every year.

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That's it. I remember having to put mine "up" because of the kids. Probably moved and they are still "up" there.

OT kind of amazing I remember having to send away for their product list and waiting to get the order form. Then it took the same amount of time to actually get the product. That wasn't really that long ago yet the Amazon model slashes that process to two days.

Still not sure if that's good or bad.

And tell that Bond guy he's still not getting any Zeppole.


Woah woah woah.

Okay. The pace of this thread is intense and I am trying to keep up.

Would this be good reading for me? I have much interest in this sport but I have a ton to catch up on.

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You can find all kinds of free stuff online to read if you just wanna get some history of F1. Or you can pm gwsat. Hes lived through it all.

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Woah woah woah.

Okay. The pace of this thread is intense and I am trying to keep up.

Would this be good reading for me? I have much interest in this sport but I have a ton to catch up on.

I have to roll but I'll work on a list of relevant ut00b stuff for you.


When?


When is now?



Soon
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I have to roll but I'll work on a list of relevant ut00b stuff for you.


When?


When is now?



Soon
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You can find all kinds of free stuff online to read if you just wanna get some history of F1. Or you can pm gwsat. Hes lived through it all.

This ageist stuff is probably not the best thing for you. Did you know that GW controls much of the South West of the country plus most of Mexico and parts of Panama and Guatemala?

Did you know that every time an oil tanker moves in the Black Sea, GW gets a healthy paycheck? Don't even get me started on the Chilean copper mines. Tread lightly my friend, tread lightly.
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This ageist stuff is probably not the best thing for you. Did you know that GW controls much of the South West of the country plus most of Mexico and parts of Panama and Guatemala?

Did you know that every time an oil tanker moves in the Black Sea, GW gets a healthy paycheck? Don't even get me started on the Chilean copper mines. Tread lightly my friend, tread lightly.
My statement was one of respect.
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You can find all kinds of free stuff online to read if you just wanna get some history of F1. Or you can pm gwsat. Hes lived through it all.

Oh sure that's nice but I don't want to bother Gwsat too much. I have a lot to catch up on and that Autocourse book looked like a great and graphical way. Plus am on the computer all day. Whatever options that I can do away from one is also good. smile.gif

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Lol. Is this how all the F1 driver committees go?

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Mine too. After my last encounter with Enzo's goon squad, the last thing I need is a run in with GW.
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Sometimes I can't help myself....tongue.gif

FWIW, I thought the first 2, recorded from spectator distance more or less, were an improvement, but nothing like last year's V8s.


As we have discussed ad nauseam, these "power units" will NEVER sound remotely close to as good as the naturally aspirated V8s. The turbos muffle the exhaust pulse too much. However, if they would raise the RPMs back up to 18-20k, they would sound much better. Even though the RPM limit is 15k, they aren't going over 13k....because of fuel limits....rolleyes.gif
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Cool. Reminds of way back in the day I would buy basically the same thing except it was in these beautiful huge coffee table books. Even back in the eighties they were almost a hundie apiece. They advertised them in the back of Road and Track. I have no idea what happened to them, love to find 'em.

There's still something about big shiny pictures that video can't replace.
If you wanted to get rid of 'em, they might actually be worth a lot of $$$ on Ebay.wink.gif

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As long as they have "Type R" silk screened on them. Of course they will need to do a crappy job of attaching the wing and have some loose toggle switches that do nothing on the dashboard for the full effect.
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AAannnnddd thank you, sir!!!

Omfg! Monaco Grand Prix!!?!?

This time I have set the Tivo for practice, qualifying and the GP. F**k yeah. Thought you could get away from me huh, Monaco GP? Yep. Gotcha bitch!
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Woah woah woah.

Okay. The pace of this thread is intense and I am trying to keep up.

Would this be good reading for me? I have much interest in this sport but I have a ton to catch up on.
Now that you're hooked up with your Tivo, really looking forward to your comments on the Monaco GP.
It's going to be a great weekend in the Principality.smile.gif

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As we have discussed ad nauseam, these "power units" will NEVER sound remotely close to as good as the naturally aspirated V8s. The turbos muffle the exhaust pulse too much.
I know, but I am trying to stay positive.frown.gif

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F1 is just about the only reason I have cable tv. If I could pay $10/race and drop cable I would do it immediately.
wink.gif, I could wait and watch entire race of course via those "other" means and get additional pre and post-race coverage. I still do just to see if I missed anything neat on those Euro broadcasts.
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Understand that we DO pay money to watch these races, yet we still get commercials.

And for me the "non-stop" PIP commercial breaks are pointless. Even on a 65" screen the tiny race coverage window is too small to tell what's happening. I generally DVR and replay skipping forward but when I do watch live I mute and pick up the tablet or a magazine.
I have the volume turned up so yes if i don't want to have a heart attack I skip, also the picture size is garbage. At Dodger Stadium we used to have these 10'' CRT tvs in the upper concourses and about 20% of the screen still went to advertisement!!!! With new ownership we have 40'' lcds up the wazoo and still get about 80% of the screen so it's ok. NBC with Formula 1 doesn't even give you 50%! rolleyes.gif

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MB's trumpet "solution" doesn't impress:

Nico Rosberg revealed running the 'megaphone' exhaust tailpipe during testing "didn't change anything" with regards to the sound of his W05.

On Wednesday, the second day of testing at the Barcelona circuit, Rosberg put Mercedes' new innovative 'megaphone' exhaust through its paces.

It was hoped that the exhaust would amplify the sound, putting an end to complaints about the new quieter sound of Formula 1.

The exhaust, though, did nothing to improve the sound.

"Unfortunately it didn't change anything so we need to keep pushing," Rosberg told reporters at the track. "We want to, as a team, make things louder for the sport.

"We need to keep pushing and try some other solutions because this was not the right solution. It was the same - nothing."

The German, who ran the modified exhaust tailpipe for 13 laps, also confirmed that the device did not alter the performance of his Mercedes.

"There was nothing, it was all the same," he added.

Removing it after his initial run, Rosberg, who dropped to second in the Championship behind Lewis Hamilton in Spain on Sunday, focused on what he needs to improve in order to catch his team-mate.

Adding a further 89 laps to his tally, he completed the day second quickest, 0.934s behind Lotus driver Pastor Maldonado.

"Days like today are so valuable as you can't really test anything effectively during a race weekend," Rosberg explained.

"No one run is the same as another, whereas here you can keep certain variables stable and properly compare things back-to-back.

"One of the main things we looked at was braking. This is an area where I haven't felt 100% happy yet this year, so we're continuously assessing ways to improve on that.

"We also worked on starts as this has been a bit of a weakness for the team this season.

"It's not easy as it's such a sophisticated procedure and there are some highly complex parts involved like the clutch, for example. But we definitely learned some interesting things."

Looking ahead to the next race on the calendar, Rosberg says Mercedes are intent on staying ahead of their rivals while he's hoping to add a second Monaco GP win to his tally.

"Our aim is keep increasing any advantage we can find over our rivals and the team is doing a great job at that.

"Of course, Monaco is up next and that's a very different, special race. But our car is strong in all areas and I see no reason why we won't be just as competitive there."

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wink.gif, I could wait and watch entire race of course via those "other" means and get additional pre and post-race coverage. I still do just to see if I missed anything neat on those Euro broadcasts.

I've seen a few of those. Having the whole broadcasting squad on site definitely changes the perspective of the broadcast. Who knows, with Austin on board, maybe someday we'll have our TV crew at ground zero for each race. Not sure if Hobbs is up for that though.
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Lauda furious as Red Bull drop name from F1 circuit

Niki Lauda has hit out at Red Bull for dropping his name from a corner at the returning Austrian grand prix venue.

Now called the Red Bull Ring, the former A1-Ring was demolished and totally rebuilt by the energy drinks company, and next month it will host its first grand prix since 2003.

Prior to the Red Bull takeover, one of the corners at the A1-Ring was called the Niki Lauda Kurve, in honour of the Austrian great and triple world champion.

Now, the same corner has been renamed Pirelli. Also gone is the Gerhard Berger Kurve, replaced by Wurth, a German tool company.

"I'm very disappointed," Lauda told Kleine Zeitung newspaper.

"I can only presume it is because I am now at Mercedes and we are beating Red Bull," he added.

So far, the Jochen Rindt Kurve - named after the posthumous 1970 world champion - has survived the Red Bull Ring's search for sponsor dollars.

But correspondent Gerald Pototschnig said even that corner could be renamed if a sponsor makes an attractive enough offer.

"As punishment," the angry Lauda said, "Mercedes will be happy to celebrate a one-two in Spielberg."
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Renault recollect an era of 1300 horsepower turbo engines


Romain Grosjean with the F1 cars that defined Renault’s early turbo era


In 1977 Renault created F1 history when it became the first-ever manufacturer to race a turbocharged car in the championship. Nobody had dared to pursue the turbocharged route until Renault debuted the highly experimental RS01 at the British GP on 17 July 1977. Powered by a 1.5l V6 turbo engine, Frenchman Jean-Pierre Jabouille became the first driver to ever compete in a championship race with a turbo-powered car.

Renault paid homage to this history today with a demonstration of some of the most significant turbo powered cars to have raced in the championship. Of course this year a new generation of turbos will return to the circuit where history was written.

The RS01 was on display alongside the Renault RE40, the British GP-winning car driven in 1983 by Alain Prost, and the Lotus 98T, one of the fastest-ever turbocharged cars built, driven by Ayrton Senna in 1986.

Following its appearance in 1977 the RS01 ushered in a new engine formula. The RS01 scored its first win on home ground in the 1979 French GP at Dijon, signalling that the turbocharged route was the way to go. One-by-one other teams developed the turbo, in effect acknowledging that Renault had got its sums right. A move to twin turbos, improvements in cooling and reductions in vibrations and friction allowed power and speeds to reach unprecedented levels, with more than 1,000bhp seen on race day and 1,300bhp in qualifying by the mid-80s – just seven years after the turbo made its first appearance.


Jean Pierre Jabouille’s Renault RS01


A move to twin turbos, improvements in cooling and reductions in vibrations and friction allowed power and speeds to reach unprecedented levels, with more than 1,000bhp seen on race day and 1,300bhp in qualifying by the mid-80s – just seven years after the turbo made its first appearance.

Romain Grosjean, who is powered by the Renault Energy F1-2014 in this year’s F1 championship, completed a demonstration run of Silverstone in the car Renault ambassador and four-times world champion Alain Prost raced to second in the 1983 championship.

The car is powered by a twin-turbo evolution V6 engine that produced around 880bhp at the time. Prost claimed victories in France, Belgium, Silverstone and Austria with podium positions at San Marino, Monaco and Brands Hatch.

He was in the running for the championship title but unfortunately just missed out at the last race of the year in South Africa when, ironically, the turbo failed. Nelson Piquet clinched the title by two points. The 1983 season was Renault’s best in the turbo period, with second place in the constructors’ ranking.


Alain Prost cam close to the 1983 title with the Renault RE40


After the run Romain, who is one of the few drivers to have direct experience of both turbo periods, said: “It felt the same as driving an F1 today at some points, but very different in others. The main difference is the driving position and the fact you feel you are sitting on the front wheel axle.”

“The driveability of the engine is of course very different – you feel there is no power and then all of a sudden it kicks in and the emotions and feelings go crazy. Then the gearbox is very different and takes some time to get used to. You can feel the braking, the downforce, the car sliding, and the car is going where it wants to go. It was very nice to drive though and I wish I could have done more laps!”

“You can really feel the difference in the turbos from this year. In these old cars, you need to get to 2.2bars of pressure and then it kicks in. It would have been tough in the race. Rob White [Renault Sport F1 deputy managing director] came to see me afterwards and said ‘now you won’t complain about the response this year any more!’ and I said no, I definitely won’t! The technology we have this year makes the turbo seem very easy in comparison to drive. The RE40 won in 1983 with Alain and I hope my car can do again this year.”



Renault turbo engine from a bygone era

Alongside the RS01 and RE40 was the Lotus 98T. The car was the last of the famous JPS cars. Driven by Ayrton Senna and Johnny Dumfries it achieved significant success, particularly in qualifying. The last of the unrestricted turbos, the car was powered by the trailblazing Renault V6 engine in its final EF15 configuration. With race power rated at just above 1,000bhp and qualifying power estimated to exceed 1,300bhp the engine proved nevertheless to be remarkably drivable.

The car features several novel systems including driver adjustable ride height and water injection. To this day the car remains the fastest Lotus of the period to have been built, having clocked 215mph at the Mexican Grand Prix of 1986.

This year, almost 37 years to the day of the first turbo debut, the turbos will make their return to Silverstone. Again, Renault is one of the pioneers of the new generation of F1 engines with its Energy F1-2014. This year, the cars are powered by a turbocharged internal combustion engine coupled to sophisticated energy recovery systems.

The internal combustion engine produces approx. 600bhp through consumption of traditional carbon-based fuel, while a further 160bhp is produced from electrical energy harvested from exhaust and braking through two motor generator units. The two systems work in harmony, with teams and drivers balancing the use of the two types of energy throughout the race.



Romain Grosjean drives the Renault RE40 at Silverstone


Renault Sport F1 technical director Rob White compared the old and new turbo engines: “The turbos of the 70s are obviously where it all started for Renault in F1. At the time the 1.5 litre engines were unlike anything we had seen before. I can remember seeing them at the British GP and being seriously impressed with how quick and powerful they seemed. I’m no less impressed today, seeing them back on track. They may look brutal but the technology under the bodywork was seriously cutting edge.”

“This year we have a very different challenge with the turbos, which are fitted to extremely sophisticated energy recovery systems. Nevertheless it’s evident that there are powerful similarities between the eras: avant-garde technology, constant innovation and flat out racing.”

The turbos were also on display with two British GP race winning cars, the Williams FW14B from 1992 driven by Nigel Mansell and Williams FW18, driven by Damon Hill in 1996.
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Lauda furious as Red Bull drop name from F1 circuit

Niki Lauda has hit out at Red Bull for dropping his name from a corner at the returning Austrian grand prix venue.

Now called the Red Bull Ring, the former A1-Ring was demolished and totally rebuilt by the energy drinks company, and next month it will host its first grand prix since 2003.

Prior to the Red Bull takeover, one of the corners at the A1-Ring was called the Niki Lauda Kurve, in honour of the Austrian great and triple world champion.

Now, the same corner has been renamed Pirelli. Also gone is the Gerhard Berger Kurve, replaced by Wurth, a German tool company.

"I'm very disappointed," Lauda told Kleine Zeitung newspaper.

"I can only presume it is because I am now at Mercedes and we are beating Red Bull," he added.

So far, the Jochen Rindt Kurve - named after the posthumous 1970 world champion - has survived the Red Bull Ring's search for sponsor dollars.

But correspondent Gerald Pototschnig said even that corner could be renamed if a sponsor makes an attractive enough offer.

"As punishment," the angry Lauda said, "Mercedes will be happy to celebrate a one-two in Spielberg."

I think victory donuts by the winning Merc on the "Pirelli" curve would get the point across. :-)
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Surely that was staged (judging by the crown on the pedestrian bridge), but it sure as hell was cool. Is there a back story that you can share?
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I think victory donuts by the winning Merc on the "Pirelli" curve would get the point across. :-)

Ha ha....that should do it! Lauda and Merc will get the last laugh this season, that's for sure.

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Surely that was staged (judging by the crown on the pedestrian bridge), but it sure as hell was cool. Is there a back story that you can share?

Unfortunately, no. A buddy of mine sent it to me. I would agree it was staged. Between the crowd on the bridge and the cars being perfectly staggered in alternating lanes allowing for an easy zig zag pass. Cool nonetheless.
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