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I am not a Seb fan, but at some point you have to wonder what the hell the deal is with his run of reliability issues.

Is it all just bad luck, are all his mechanics and engineers sabotaging his car, or is there just something unique about his driving style that breaks his equipment?

If Hamilton thought there was somehow a conspiracy against him at Merc, imagine what he would be thinking in Seb's shoes.
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I am not a Seb fan, but at some point you have to wonder what the hell the deal is with his run of reliability issues.

Is it all just bad luck, are all his mechanics and engineers sabotaging his car, or is there just something unique about his driving style that breaks his equipment?

If Hamilton thought there was somehow a conspiracy against him at Merc, imagine what he would be thinking in Seb's shoes.
My guess is he got stuck with Webbers crew. They were/are masters of mucking things up.😱
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Toto, please, for the love of all things sacred, STFU about this.

If a driver wants a teammate to move over, step one is to be completely up his gearbox and show that you are being held up. Otherwise, fark off.

The team has been nuancing this since the last race. Enough. I don't get the constant need to discuss this in the press.
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I believe Max has a future in government if he so desires.

http://en.espnf1.com/marussia/motors...ry/171955.html

Here is a gem:

Asked if it was about money, Chilton said: "That's a very easy way to come up with an idea. But what I did yesterday and the reason I was out of a drive yesterday was, I like to believe, due to a decision between both of us, and that got changed overnight. I'm not going to start getting into the details."

Yup, it was ALL about money. :-)

Damn. What a mind**** for Rossi.



"It's been a busy 24 hours, lots of things have changed and there have been lots of rumours that are not true. They are the first things people think of but there is a lot more going on behind the scenes and I'm always here to do the most I can for the team. That's why what happened yesterday was created and overnight that change was changed and I was put in the car this morning. "


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Toto, please, for the love of all things sacred, STFU about this.

If a driver wants a teammate to move over, step one is to be completely up his gearbox and show that you are being held up. Otherwise, fark off.

The team has been nuancing this since the last race. Enough. I don't get the constant need to discuss this in the press.
I think these guys are still kind of new to the spotlight and starting to feel like celebrities with people hanging on every word. They seem to be buying into the hype which is a dead end road.



When they quit winning so much (everyone does) they will have their learning moment because no one will care about their team orders.

People will say what they will about Vettel and Horner but they are handling this non winning period pretty well, save for a few exceptions.
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People will say what they will about Vettel and Horner but they are handling this non winning period pretty well, save for a few exceptions.
Agreed, you don't really see them pouting and whining when crap hits the fan. Horner does come up with some WTF statements every now and then but for the most part they have done well managing the mayhem.
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Just read this extremely interesting piece comparing Hamilton and Rosberg on The Telegraph Web site. for obvious reasons I thought it would be a Brit-centric puffing of Hamilton. But it wasn't. The author, Daniel Johnson did a detailed comparison of the strengths and weaknesses of each driver and concluded that although they are very different, Hamilton and Rosberg are evenly matched. It made sense to me. Anyway, Johnson's piece was a lot of fun. Highly recommended!
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Just read this extremely interesting piece comparing Hamilton and Rosberg on The Telegraph Web site. for obvious reasons I thought it would be a Brit-centric puffing of Hamilton. But it wasn't. The author, Daniel Johnson did a detailed comparison of the strengths and weaknesses of each driver and concluded that although they are very different, Hamilton and Rosberg are evenly matched. It made sense to me. Anyway, Johnson's piece was a lot of fun. Highly recommended!
Good piece. After the 1st couple paragraphs I was not so sure it was even handed, but it turned out to be just that.
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Good piece. After the 1st couple paragraphs I was not so sure it was even handed, but it turned out to be just that.
Agreed,very good piece. I also liked the Max Chilton article that followed. I think he is getting the short end of the stick. I'm sure it wasn't his decision to give up his seat then take it back. I'm sure he was stuck between his manager and team management.

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Let's do this Yankeeman. http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/ripti...ars_to_rac.php

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I used to go to the races when they had the downtown street track every year, right from the very first one with all the rain. I loved it. The racing was never quite as enjoyable when they moved it to Tamiami Park and then to Homestead.

I am now older and have some knee and other problems, and havent been to a race in a long time, but depending on how i am feeling when and if this happens, i would love to do this if i am able. Lets keep track of this.

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I used to go to the races when they had the downtown street track every year, right from the very first one with all the rain. I loved it. The racing was never quite as enjoyable when they moved it to Tamiami Park and then to Homestead.

I am now older and have some knee and other problems, and havent been to a race in a long time, but depending on how i am feeling when and if this happens, i would love to do this if i am able. Lets keep track of this.
Loved those races downtown,also got soaked that year. Went to Tamiami but never did Homestead. Let's keep an eye on this.

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I did Homestead once. Hell getting out of there, traffic to get on the turnpike was so bad on a Sunday afternoon, and roads all narrow, it was hell. Just an oval track anyway.

Downtown was so great!! I used to park in the Omni parking lot and walk into the track, and easy to leave.

I will say one thing, you dont realize from tv or from a distance how fast the cars go around the corners. I was standing by a corner in Homestead and Emmo was coming thru it and i freaked and ran backwards as i thought he entered it way too fast and was going to crash into the wall, and he just went thru the corner perfectly fine, its amazing up close the speed they can corner at.

Let me know if you hear any more info about this race.

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I did Homestead once. Hell getting out of there, traffic to get on the turnpike was so bad on a Sunday afternoon, and roads all narrow, it was hell. Just an oval track anyway.

Downtown was so great!! I used to park in the Omni parking lot and walk into the track, and easy to leave.

I will say one thing, you dont realize from tv or from a distance how fast the cars go around the corners. I was standing by a corner in Homestead and Emmo was coming thru it and i freaked and ran backwards as i thought he entered it way too fast and was going to crash into the wall, and he just went thru the corner perfectly fine, its amazing up close the speed they can corner at.

Let me know if you hear any more info about this race.
Yeah, I loved those IMSA races downtown. I went to one CART race at Tamiami,crappy track. I've only been to Homestead to do some karting. Let's see what happens,looks like a sure thing though.

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Interesting article about the finances of hosting an F1 race, including The USGP and the upcoming Mexican race.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/20...on-dollar-man/

I think I could probably explain the inner workings of the new power units more easily than the finances of the company that actually owns F1.
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Interesting article about the finances of hosting an F1 race, including The USGP and the upcoming Mexican race.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/20...on-dollar-man/

I think I could probably explain the inner workings of the new power units more easily than the finances of the company that actually owns F1.
Interesting. One thing that grabbed my attention -

"The race series (F1) was bought for $2 billion in 2006 by CVC’s investment Fund IV "

Considering the L.A. Clippers just sold for the same amount, I would say that was a sweet deal.

" CVC has got $4.4 billion of cash out of the business giving it a return of 350%"

Seems like a better deal than nutty Steve Ballmer got for the same cash.






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I did Homestead once. Hell getting out of there, traffic to get on the turnpike was so bad on a Sunday afternoon, and roads all narrow, it was hell. Just an oval track anyway.

Downtown was so great!! I used to park in the Omni parking lot and walk into the track, and easy to leave.

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Let me know if you hear any more info about this race.

That reminded me of a time Jeremy McGrath came to my local track. As I watched him enter a corner I knew well, I was convinced his throttle stuck or his brakes failed. Of course he motored right out of it with no drama.

That's when I knew that he and I were participating in different sports. When you see something and say "not only can't I do that, I'll never be able to do that", It's humbling.


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I enjoyed Eddie doing crowd control on the podium. Good stuff,good race.

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Great race by Daniel Ricciardo and huge drama in the Nico - Lewis sweepstakes.
But I tell you what, Adrian Newey is a genius. To be able to work out what to do at a track like Spa to give Red Bull any chance against the far superior Merc, that is brilliant.
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EJ handled it very well.

Somewhat hypocritically, I have to say that when Vettel was relentlessly bood last year, I felt he more or less deserved it.

But I thought Hamilton's fans today were completely classless. Interesting that the NBC broadcast crew all saw it as a racing incident (as did I), yet the largely Brit based F1 pundits that I follow on twitter universally blame Rosberg. Hamilton and his more rabid fans seem to have a way over active feeling of persecution. Other then the fact that the constructors is a lock, and that one of their drivers will win the WDC unless they adopt a M. A. D. Strategy, it can't be fun to be Toto, Niki, and Paddy right about now.

Putting all that aside, more massive props to Ricciardo. As unlikely as it seems, there are still a lot of points on offer including the stupid double points finale. The Merc boys can do a lot of damage to each other, and I would love for Daniel to be able to capitalize on it.
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Buxton just sent this out:

@WillB uxton: I don't have the exact quotes, but Lewis just told the print press that Nico admitted in debrief he deliberately hit him to prove a point.
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I don't doubt that Rosberg said that. I just don't believe it. This ain't NASCAR. You can't hit another car with high risk of damaging your own. I think Rosberg is demonstrating that he is not only immune to whatever mind games Hamilton might try to play, but that he himself is a master at winding Hamilton up and letting him go.

I love it. :-)
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Buxton just sent this out:

@WillB uxton: I don't have the exact quotes, but Lewis just told the print press that Nico admitted in debrief he deliberately hit him to prove a point.
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I don't doubt that Rosberg said that. I just don't believe it. This ain't NASCAR. You can't hit another car with high risk of damaging your own. I think Rosberg is demonstrating that he is not only immune to whatever mind games Hamilton might try to play, but that he himself is a master at winding Hamilton up and letting him go.

I love it. :-)
It's going to be a very entertaining push to the end of the season and with double points for the last race anything can happen.I agree 100% that Rosberg will twist Hamilton up and let him self destruct,this will be fun.
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http://m.crash.net/f1/news/207980/1/hamilton-rosberg-admits-he-hit-me-deliberately.html

IMHO, Nico is proving that he has the psychological make up to handle the pressure. Hamilton, by his reaction to this, as well as his actions through out the year, would appear to not be equipped to deal with it. Too many years being coddled by McLaren.

I regret that I may not have enough popcorn to last through to the next race will this latest episode of The F1 Diva Chronicles plays out.
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One says he hit him deliberately,the other says he dot know what happened,Lauda says they will race with no orders. This is good stuff! http://m.crash.net/f1/news/207983/1/...ake-blame.html

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More sunshine blown up our arses from Toto Wolff.

http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115551

And what exactly do they think they can do, not that I feel any punishment whatsoever is warranted?

The only thing any team could do that would get a drivers attention is sit him down for a race. To do so when their two drivers are in a title fight would immediately destroy the legitimacy of the WDC. It may already be destroyed thanks to the FIA if double points becomes a title decider, but for the good if the sport they need to let their drivers race, period.
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All this Mercedes nonsense aside,a great race from my new favorite driver,DR, great drive and does he ever stop smiling? 😃

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More sunshine blown up our arses from Toto Wolff.

http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115551

And what exactly do they think they can do, not that I feel any punishment whatsoever is warranted?

The only thing any team could do that would get a drivers attention is sit him down for a race. To do so when their two drivers are in a title fight would immediately destroy the legitimacy of the WDC. It may already be destroyed thanks to the FIA if double points becomes a title decider, but for the good if the sport they need to let their drivers race, period.
Another STFU statement from Wolff. Your going to reprimand your driver for what most saw as a racing incident?

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More Wolff rantings. http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/...ns-tyre-at-spa

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That reminded me of a time Jeremy McGrath came to my local track. As I watched him enter a corner I knew well, I was convinced his throttle stuck or his brakes failed. Of course he motored right out of it with no drama.

That's when I knew that he and I were participating in different sports. When you see something and say "not only can't I do that, I'll never be able to do that", It's humbling.


Supercross/Motocross isn't what it once was is it? It's pretty dire in Europe.

I remember when he came to Britain. It was hilarious listening to some well known local riders before they took part. Then when they were taking part in the event, Lol! One of them didn't make the main event. McGrath lapped one of them 5 times. The other, you'll see him in the video. 83 with the fruity gear. Bobby McMillan. I believe McGrath lapped him 4 times. Last from the start.

Funny when you think of the history of these supreme racers. McGrath riding since more or less he was born. His first race was 5?

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Supercross/Motocross isn't what it once was is it? It's pretty dire in Europe.

I remember when he came to Britain. It was hilarious listening to some well known local riders before they took part. Then when they were taking part in the event, Lol! One of them didn't make the main event. McGrath lapped one of them 5 times. The other, you'll see him in the video. 83 with the fruity gear. Bobby McMillan. I believe McGrath lapped him 4 times. Last from the start.

Funny when you think of the history of these supreme racers. McGrath riding since more or less he was born. His first race was 5?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk7cNXFjlIA
While I really haven't followed closely,it seems stadiums are full for the Supercross events and the Outdoor series looks well attended here from what races I've seen. I really haven't followed since the days of Bob Hannah,Brock Glover and Magoo Chandler. That's going a ways back.

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And now the damage control begins….

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115558

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