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CBS partners with NFL on 2014 Thursday Night Football Package.

CBS and NFL Network to each televise 8 games.

CBS will air eight early season games that also will be simulcast on NFL Network. NFL Network will also televise eight late-season games in the run-up to the playoffs. The mix of games will include 14 on Thursday nights and two late-season games on Saturday.

The full slate of 16 regular-season games will be produced by CBS with its lead broadcasters and production team, including Jim Nantz and Phil Simms, on all Thursday night games. In a new twist, NFL Network hosts and analysts will be featured in the pregame, halftime and postgame shows along with CBS Sports announcers.

The agreement is for the 2014 season with an additional year at the NFL's option.

http://nflcommunications.com/2014/02/05/nfl-partners-with-cbs-on-2014-thursday-night-football-package/

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So, in addition to the BBT ratings blockbuster they add the usual high NFL ratings. This of course means less BBT reruns that will then add even more to the ratings. Guess NBC should not bother getting rid of their low rated lineup because they simply dont stand a chance in Hell.

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LOL, Nantz on Thursday Night games. They better come up with decent matchups then, cause I'm sure he ain't cheap and won't appreciate calling stuff like JAX-HOU.

Remember that under the TNF package, each NFL team gets one game in prime time. Hence, the package overall will still rely on some crappy matchups.
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Remember that under the TNF package, each NFL team gets one game in prime time. Hence, the package overall will still rely on some crappy matchups.

And the Sunday night package, being the most expensive, gets the best night games. Almost every week is a marquee matchup, and late season flexing guarantees it. Followed by Monday night. Thursday gets the leftovers - which is another good reason to abolish it.
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TNF gets great ratings why would they get rid of it getting about a 3.0 18-49 which would put it around the #30 tv show for the year & thats on NFLN which is only in 72 million homes so now on cbs it should do even better.

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With CBS doing the production at least the technical quality of the Thursday games will go up by about 10,000%.
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OK news I guess.
If your home team has the TNF game you got to see it anyway without the NFL package. But I guess I can find one or maybe two other TNF games on CBS that will interest me....

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It sounds to me like the bigger deal is using CBS production people and announcers. Most of the knocks (outside the games themselves) for NFL Network has been on the announcers I thought. That problem should go away with this deal.

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Are they blacking out those TNF's also or just the regular Sunday games? If they go ahead and blackout what would the people watch on Thursdays?

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Are they blacking out those TNF's also or just the regular Sunday games? If they go ahead and blackout what would the people watch on Thursdays?
Blackout have always applied to nationally televised games on on NBC, ESPN, NFL Network just like the games every Sunday on CBS & Fox.

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so roughly...

CBS: 8 Thursday games (all shared with NFL Network) 300 million
NBC: 17 mostly Sunday games (exclusive) 600 million
ESPN: 17 Monday games (exclusive) 1.9 BILLION

Unlike NBC's deal, none of these Monday or Thursday games are flexed and are frequently irrelevant/terrible. At least CBS doesn't appear to be wildly overpaying here. ESPN needs a better negotiator (or less cable/satellite sub fees). tongue.gif
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Smart for CBS to get the early season games when it's still unclear who is terrible and who isn't. NFL Network matchups near the end of the season have been pretty much 99 percent garbage.
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Yeah, every once in a while we get the fluke game like Patriots vs Giants several years ago on NFL Network... but that game itself is what essentially forced the end-of-season flex schedule to be implemented.

So I agree, smart for CBS to get the early 8 games... when there could be duds, but at least the teams for the most part will not be fully tanked yet at that point.

I'm not sure I love the Thursday night games as a concept though... When they were avoiding competing with college football I understood why they didn't do Saturday games... but now that they are going head-to-head with college football anyway on Thursday... I would rather them move the Thursday night game to Saturday if they want a primetime spot. Seems like that would be better for attendance in stadiums and do better ratings at night as well... and it would mostly solve the short-week problem of rest since some teams get that short-week from Mon to Sun if they are on MNF... this would be 1 day the other direction... instead of several days like Thursday is now.

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I'm not sure I love the Thursday night games as a concept though... When they were avoiding competing with college football I understood why they didn't do Saturday games... but now that they are going head-to-head with college football anyway on Thursday... I would rather them move the Thursday night game to Saturday if they want a primetime spot. Seems like that would be better for attendance in stadiums and do better ratings at night as well.

Been mentioned before the NFL & congress have as part of an antitrust agreement to not broadcast games on any friday after 6 pm or any saturday from the second friday in september ending on the second saturday in december.

+ i dont see saturday doing better ratings than thursday which is also a big ad friendly night as its the last good tv night before the weekend.

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I'm glad CBS got the games. I look forward to watching them on Thursdays this fall.

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Yeah Mayock knows his stuff but he really doesn't know when to STFU and let the game play.
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Since Nantz/Simms are doing the Thursday night games, will they also do their regular Sunday games as well, or will CBS have to add more broadcast crews? (Don Criqui sighting biggrin.gif)
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so roughly...

CBS: 8 Thursday games (all shared with NFL Network) 300 million
NBC: 17 mostly Sunday games (exclusive) 600 million
ESPN: 17 Monday games (exclusive) 1.9 BILLION
At least CBS doesn't appear to be wildly overpaying here. ESPN needs a better negotiator (or less cable/satellite sub fees). tongue.gif
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Since Nantz/Simms are doing the Thursday night games, will they also do their regular Sunday games as well, or will CBS have to add more broadcast crews? (Don Criqui sighting biggrin.gif)

Sounds like they will still do the 9 cbs sunday national games but may skip the other weeks.

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Sounds like they will still do the 9 cbs sunday national games but may skip the other weeks.

Too bad, I can't stand Simms. He is also a big jerk on Showtime's Inside the NFL.
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so roughly...

CBS: 8 Thursday games (all shared with NFL Network) 300 million
NBC: 17 mostly Sunday games (exclusive) 600 million
ESPN: 17 Monday games (exclusive) 1.9 BILLION

Unlike NBC's deal, none of these Monday or Thursday games are flexed and are frequently irrelevant/terrible. At least CBS doesn't appear to be wildly overpaying here. ESPN needs a better negotiator (or less cable/satellite sub fees). tongue.gif

NBC's deal is $950 million/yr starting this fall.

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so roughly...

CBS: 8 Thursday games (all shared with NFL Network) 300 million
NBC: 17 mostly Sunday games (exclusive) 600 million
ESPN: 17 Monday games (exclusive) 1.9 BILLION

NBC actually has 19 games since the kickoff opener & thanksgiving actually count as SNF.


CBS Sports Chairman Sean McManus said they didnt want to lose thursday night to another network:
“Its an opportunity to showcase Thursday Night Football and also not wanting to compete against it,” says McManus. “We’re the dominant network in primetime and we’re clearly the dominant network on Thursday Night. I think that Thursday night dominance would have been in jeopardy if somebody else were airing Thursday Night Football against us. We were really determined to make sure that this event was showcased on CBS.”

http://sportsvideo.org/main/blog/2014/02/cbs-sports-chairman-sean-mcmanus-thursday-night-football-is-lead-production-teams-number-one-assignment/

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NBC actually has 19 games since the kickoff opener & thanksgiving actually count as SNF.

NBC's deal includes playoff games as well. CBS's Thursday deal and ESPN's deal don't.

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NBC's deal includes playoff games as well. CBS's Thursday deal and ESPN's deal don't.

Yep but was just going by regular season SNF games....but the espn deal now "kinda" does cause this season it will be interesting to see the playoff setup now that the new tv deals are kicking in:
- nbc now has only 1 wildcard game but gets 1 divisional playoff game.
- espn can now buy a wildcard game for $100 million IF the nfl lets them.

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From AdWeek, a look at the money angle of the CBS Thursday NFL broadcast package.

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I was listening to the Dan LeBatard show and he explain why ESPN pays so much for MNF. Basically it's to show highlight footage from all the other games, the actually game is just a bonus. It's cheaper for ESPN to buy into the NFL than to clear audio/video every time it's needed.
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Interesting on ESPN costs and I would gladly take a Thursday game about now. Having horrible withdrawals already. Oh well the home team gets a new state of the art stadium this coming season. Hope it's one of early Monday games to see/show it off. Also hope they played with acoustics. They have been mum here.

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I think because of parking/traffic issues with local businesses they said there wont be any home weekday non holiday games so you can rule out home MNF/TNF.

If every team would make such a sensible request, maybe that's how we could rid of the abomination of Thursday night games!

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Agree, MNF is full of dogs and close to unwatchable in those instances as Gruden/Tirico are unbearable. The move to ESPN really tanked MNF. So hoping that Gruden goes back into coaching wink.gif

TNF has a lot of dogs too but it does have going for it, it is the first game of the week and you aren't fatigued of football like you are sometimes Monday.
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