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Sky & Telescope says Cosmos will have fresh material. Reasonable since Dark Energy with cosmological acceleration was unknown in the 80s. No exoplanets had been discovered. No Neptune encounter or asteroid encounters. Pluto was still a planet and had no retinue of moons.
The Ship of the Imagination will return with an updated look. The Library of Alexandria will again be covered.
SPOILER: It got burned down

Having Tyson host Cosmos is brilliant because of the outreach to audiences outside the geek science community that the former heavyweight boxing champ will bring!

OK correction here, it's Neil deGrasse Tyson. Never mind.
Thank God it's not wackjob Michio Kaku.
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Having Tyson host Cosmos is brilliant because of the outreach to audiences outside the geek science community that the former heavyweight boxing champ will bring!

OK correction here, it's Neil deGrasse Tyson. Never mind.
Thank God it's not wackjob Michio Kaku.

You're actually kind of close. NdGT was a Latin ballroom dance champ in his college days! Truth.

What's wrong with Kaku? He's one of these celebrity physicists who's on a lot of shows but I never got a "wackjob" vibe from him. confused.gif

As a big fan of Sagan and the original 'Cosmos', I'm really looking forward to this.
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What's wrong with Kaku? He's one of these celebrity physicists who's on a lot of shows but I never got a "wackjob" vibe from him. confused.gif

Because he jumps on any television opportunity he can that will pay him for a soundbite, comes up with whacked predictions about the future which he then contradicts when he goes on another show. Sometimes he's just wrong, much to the chagrin of other scientists.

Search Google and you can find plenty of articles like this: http://scienceblogs.com/principles/2013/03/19/against-kaku-ism/
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I watched Sagan's Cosmos & loved the series. Will add this to my list to record.
Thanks for the info because this is the 1st I knew that the show was being redone. Tyson will be good cool.gif

I also liked Brian Cox's Wonders Of series'. He brought that sense of "wonder" in his narration.

Any series about the universe, cosmology, quantum physics, string theory, is cool in my book.

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Because he jumps on any television opportunity he can that will pay him for a soundbite, comes up with whacked predictions about the future which he then contradicts when he goes on another show. Sometimes he's just wrong, much to the chagrin of other scientists.

Search Google and you can find plenty of articles like this: http://scienceblogs.com/principles/2013/03/19/against-kaku-ism/

Scientists can be so.... catty! tongue.gif
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This series is also on the National Geographic Channels. Even though the online schedule doesn't show it, and maybe I'm reading this incorrectly, but this is supposed to air tonight on NatGeo. It looks like they are showing it @9 and repeating it @10.
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Yeah it doesn't debut until Sunday on a host of Fox channels, NatGeo included. I really enjoy Neil Tyson, he did a good job with some of the Nova scienceNow shows for example. I think he'll be a fine contemporary for Sagan on the new Cosmos and I applaud the effort by Fox to broaden this education to the masses. It's sooo unlike them. biggrin.gif
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It doesn't debut until Sunday, but this evening is a Q&A session.
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I applaud the effort by Fox to broaden this education to the masses. It's sooo unlike them. biggrin.gif

their creationist wing will be up in arms wink.gif

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Because he jumps on any television opportunity he can that will pay him for a soundbite, comes up with whacked predictions about the future which he then contradicts when he goes on another show. Sometimes he's just wrong, much to the chagrin of other scientists.

Search Google and you can find plenty of articles like this: http://scienceblogs.com/principles/2013/03/19/against-kaku-ism/


Eh, he's a really smart guy and he's good on camera. You can't get too technical on mass consumed TV.

If they got someone who was "more right" but he wouldn't take off his pocket protector and always had a little spittle on the corner of his lip, they'd lose these show because no one would watch. I'm just glad these shows are on.
BTW Tyson gets his own share of downgrading by the "big boys"



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Saw a screener. The special effects beat anything Sagan had available at the time. But it really bogs down in the middle with a 15-minute history lesson illustrated by the kind of cheap, limited-motion animation that went away decades ago ("South Park" notwithstanding). It's like they spent so much on the opening ten minutes that they didn't have enough left to pay for live actors to recreate the historical scenes. I keep hoping that the segment just wasn't done in time for the screening, hence the bad animation. Guess I'll find out Sunday.

FOX also sent the media a huge "Cosmos" wall calendar and a copy of Sagan's book. In my experience, the more swag WE get, the more worried about the show THEY are.

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Eh, he's a really smart guy and he's good on camera. You can't get too technical on mass consumed TV.

Which seems to be the only contribution he usually makes. Most of the time it's as if a producer just wants someone with a science background to agree that whatever sci-fi concept they have in their show/movie is plausible.

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Not gonna lock it, but any post that's not about THE SHOW is probably going to go away.
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Carl Sagan became known for his "Beellyuns and Beellyuns" phrase. I wonder what will NDT's catchphrase be?
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Carl Sagan became known for his "Beellyuns and Beellyuns" phrase. I wonder what will NDT's catchphrase be?

"How low are the ratings this week?"

Seriously though it would be nice if this was some kind of success. At least then it might encourage networks to diversify their prime time portfolio and be more daring, by showing documentaries and informative television that is actual "reality" instead of that game/talent show stuff they keep trying to re-categorize.
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This show is getting a huge publicity push. It's going to be really interesting to see how it does. If it beats 'Duck Dynasty''s numbers, I'll consider that a win for America. biggrin.gif
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Cosmos: A Space-Time Odyssey is advertised to be shown on 10 stations, including Fox sports.

The original Cosmos is to be shown on National Geographic on Sat 3-8-2014 & Sun 3-9-2014. Half the episodes on each day.
http://www.thewrap.com/cosmos-original-series-gets-nat-geo-marathon-prior-reboot-premiere/
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Got a "season pass." Can't wait! biggrin.gif

I'll be watching on NatGeo
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I hope this isn't going to be considered OT because it isn't dealing specifically with the show, but the images are cool and the video toward the bottom is friggin' amazing.


Haunting new Hubble image shows a galaxy being ripped to shreds
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Nah, it's related. You're good.
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MacFarlane's "Cosmos" loves pictures. Sagan's "Cosmos" loved words.

A picture is worth a thousand words.
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Some would say billions and millions
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Yeah, very cool. Especially that "zoom-in" video clip where you get to see just how far away that galaxy is, and how amazing it is that the Hubble can even make it out, yet alone in such amazing detail. Wow.

What that tells me is we need more, better space telescopes, especially since the Hubble is now on life-support.

I have to reprint this comment from a poster on the same page. I severely LOL'd. I know it's kind of OT, but not really. wink.gif

"Not sure if sad or relieved that there were no videos like this 20 years ago in college when I was going through my LSD phase."

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We have the James Webb Space Telescope JWST successor to Hubble well under development. Unfortunately it was ineptly program managed and went way, way over budget killing other space science missions in its bloat.
The NEXT COSMOS reboot will feature JWST photos as well as GAIA and PLATO data on stars and planets. smile.gif
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I have to reprint this comment from a poster on the same page. I severely LOL'd. I know it's kind of OT, but not really. wink.gif

"Not sure if sad or relieved that there were no videos like this 20 years ago in college when I was going through my LSD phase."

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Sounds like he was using some low grade LSD. wink.gif
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Sounds like he was using some low grade LSD. wink.gif

LOL.

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When the series first aired I was completely mesmerized. It not only caused me to buy my first VCR (no small feat since I was a poor college student at the time) but also caused me to change my major to chemistry. I'm very hopeful about this new airing but I'm also concerned that they won't do the original justice. I see no place for animation in the series and hope that it's not a less expensive replacement for actors, costumes, and sets. I'm also afraid that, if it IS as awesome as it could be, we will all be disappointed in a few years that there will never be a 4K version of real value available.
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Color me skeptical about C2 using animation vs actors in C1. It seems to indicate another CGI tour de force for the sake of CGI. Given the background of some involved this is likely. Prove my fears unfounded Cosmos!

DISCLOSURE: I do feel it would be a hoot to use computer sim to "bring back" Carl Sagan as the host. Ann Druyan probably woulda had a cow though.
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DISCLOSURE: I do feel it would be a hoot creepy to use computer sim to "bring back" Carl Sagan as the host. Ann Druyan probably woulda had a cow though.

Fixed that for you. wink.gif
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