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This has become my favorite tv show, highly entertaining
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Great season! Poor Andre. Dude stayed classy to the end. I like how the show has chosen to humanize some of the British officers like him and Hewlett instead of making them cardboard cutouts as a lesser show might have done. Speaking of cardboard cutouts, every show needs one or two and Simcoe is a delightfully evil villain in the mold of HoW's "Swede". I'd love to see them make him hard of hearing next year, constantly having to ask people to repeat themselves and tilting his head to his "good" side.

Seriously, a tiny bit of humor couldn't hurt. This show is nearly devoid of it, which is one of my only complaints.

Love what they did with Benedict Arnold, managed to acknowledge Nathan Hale (and corrected an historical fallacy), and even managed to squeeze in Alexander Hamilton! He seems to have become a lot more famous since Broadway discovered him.

And Woodhull makes another daring, last minute escape! All the threads that linked him to Culper have been tied off -- except for his family and "Robbie" Rogers, of course. Townsend has now declared he's all-in, so the ring survives to spy again! Glad they've gotten at least one more season. I'd like to see them finish it in the way they've planned.
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"Captain Simcoe ... you're a pathetic amateur" – Abe's Dad

Great finale! I hope it gets renewed. We need closure on the Simcoe storyline. And we also need to find out who wins the damn war.
Couldn't agree more! This was a great finale to another great season.

My only quibble was the handling of Peggy Arnold's "mad scene." The consensus of historians seems to be that Peggy Arnold put on a show of madness in order to give her husband time to get to New York and find refuge with the British fleet. History shows us that Peggy was a loyal wife, who bore Benedict Arnold five children. It is also true, though, that she was a member of a prominent Philadelphia loyalist family and knew Major Andre well. Anyway, I think the show has done a mostly great job of telling her story.

The dramatization of Andre's story is also well done. He was good soldier who died bravely.
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"Turn" AMC HD Story of America's First Spy Ring

My mother lives in Tarrytown, NY, which is situated along the Hudson River, and lies roughly midway between NYC and West Point. On the main road that runs north and south through Tarrytown, there is a large statue commemorating the spot where Andre was captured. I of course notice the statue and admire it when I am there, but thousands of people probably drive by there every day without a clue of its significance.

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The real Simcoe
https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Graves-Simcoe

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Pshaw! I like our Simcoe better.
I have to admit, he makes a great bad guy!
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The only thing about our Simcoe that I cringe: His voice...
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The only thing about our Simcoe that I cringe: His voice...
That's part of what makes his character so great. His voice is grating, high-pitched, and sing-song all at the same time. It's so perfect for his face, too. Brilliant!
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Yep, his voice and the actor that plays him are spot-on to fit this period. One of the greatest show villians ever IMO.

I hated him as a British regular but love to watch him as a King's Ranger, is that wrong??? LOL.

Will miss Andre, great character too and very well played. I hope we haven't seen the last of Hewlett either. The acting on this show is superb all around.

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The only thing about our Simcoe that I cringe: His voice...
Maybe its those tight uniform pants..
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Well the romantic in me hopes that Hewlett through events stays here. Realizing that the old world holds nothing of value for him comes to the conclusion that although it was a ruse the love of Anna is what he wants more than anything. As for Abraham he stays with Mary. He realizes that she has become a force of nature as we have seen and poor Simcoe has felt.. Her character has come a long way from season one where she was pretty much a whiny needy spouse..
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Well the romantic in me hopes that Hewlett through events stays here. Realizing that the old world holds nothing of value for him comes to the conclusion that although it was a ruse the love of Anna is what he wants more than anything. As for Abraham he stays with Mary. He realizes that she has become a force of nature as we have seen and poor Simcoe has felt.. Her character has come a long way from season one where she was pretty much a whiny needy spouse..
Every character has grown and changed as the rebellion has progressed and history sweeps them along in its relentless current. So many great performances and attention to period detail. This show never gets mentioned when people talk about the "best" series on TV (kind of like 'Black Sails' in that way), but it should be somewhere on that list IMO.
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I purposely haven't read any of the real history behind this show because 1) I didn't want to catch any spoilers and 2) I didn't want to be constantly comparing or feeling disappointed when the show takes some literary license for dramatic purposes.

Basically all I remember from high school American history is that the colonists won the war with George Washington as general, eventually becoming the first US president. And Benedict Arnold was a traitor (thanks to a famous Brady Bunch episode ). Of course many of the names of people, battles, and locations and major incidents sound familiar, but I couldn't tell you any real history behind them or give you a timeline of events.

From some of the posts above, I'm very happy to hear that many of these characters are based on real people (Simcoe, Andre, etc.) and I will most definitely make a point of reading up on the history once the show has run its course.
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Finished off the Season on a Marathon Watch over the weekend .. some shows I like just seem even better that way, although it's tough to let it stack on the DVR ..


Great season, wonderful show .. if they end it after one more season, I think it will be tied off nicely .. AMC has done a great job so far with the material ..
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Any word on when season 4 is airing? No word on AMC's site or anywhere else...
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Any word on when season 4 is airing? No word on AMC's site or anywhere else...
Although don't think an exact date has been set, it appears to be this Fall for the final season

http://www.amc.com/shows/turn/talk/2...d-for-season-4

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I thought this was a spring show
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Apparently not this year ..

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2 Hour Premiere June 17th

http://www.amc.com/shows/turn

I missed most of last year's season 3, and it's not available on Netflix or AMC.com for some reason. I'd like to catch up and be ready for season 4, but that doesn't appear to be an option on either site.
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2 Hour Premiere June 17th

http://www.amc.com/shows/turn

I missed most of last year's season 3, and it's not available on Netflix or AMC.com for some reason. I'd like to catch up and be ready for season 4, but that doesn't appear to be an option on either site.
I've noticed that with a lot of cable and broadcast network shows on Netflix, the previous season doesn't get added until anywhere from one to four weeks before the new season starts. It varies by network, but I know I've caught up with several AMC shows on Netflix, including Turn, Breaking Bad, and Hell on Wheels, before the new season started airing on AMC. By best guess would be two weeks out before it's added.
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AMC almost always reruns the whole previous season of one of their shows right before starting a new one. A lot of cablenets do that. You should keep your eye out for when that will happen with 'Turn', and make sure you've got enough space on your DVR to record it all.
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I've noticed that with a lot of cable and broadcast network shows on Netflix, the previous season doesn't get added until anywhere from one to four weeks before the new season starts. It varies by network, but I know I've caught up with several AMC shows on Netflix, including Turn, Breaking Bad, and Hell on Wheels, before the new season started airing on AMC. By best guess would be two weeks out before it's added.
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AMC almost always reruns the whole previous season of one of their shows right before starting a new one. A lot of cablenets do that. You should keep your eye out for when that will happen with 'Turn', and make sure you've got enough space on your DVR to record it all.
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2 Hour Premiere June 17th

http://www.amc.com/shows/turn
Drat. Forgot to program the Magic Machine and I can only do so 2 weeks in advance, which was after the last post here. Have to find the first 3 eps OnDemand now. Anybody watching?

Edit: My DTV OnDemand offerings for 'Turn' starts with Ep 3. Which means I have to find the first 2 somewhere else. Since I re-entered the world of satellite TV service a couple of months ago, I've noticed the DTV's OnDemand offerings are much less comprehensive than cable's. I could not only have found all 3 eps on my former cable companys' OnDemand listings, but prior seasons as well. Wonder why that is?

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Season is off to a great start. I won't spoil anything, but this is definitely shaping up as a final season, with major developments already three episodes in.
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Drat. Forgot to program the Magic Machine and I can only do so 2 weeks in advance, which was after the last post here. Have to find the first 3 eps OnDemand now. Anybody watching?

Edit: My DTV OnDemand offerings for 'Turn' starts with Ep 3. Which means I have to find the first 2 somewhere else. Since I re-entered the world of satellite TV service a couple of months ago, I've noticed the DTV's OnDemand offerings are much less comprehensive than cable's. I could not only have found all 3 eps on my former cable companys' OnDemand listings, but prior seasons as well. Wonder why that is?
arch, the first three eps of Turn are available on AMC.com and the AMC app.
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arch, the first three eps of Turn are available on AMC.com and the AMC app.
Unfortunately, that would require watching on a computer. Not my preference, but I guess beggars can't be choosers.
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Since I re-entered the world of satellite TV service a couple of months ago, I've noticed the DTV's OnDemand offerings are much less comprehensive than cable's. I could not only have found all 3 eps on my former cable companys' OnDemand listings, but prior seasons as well. Wonder why that is?
Charter / Spectrum is much the same .. it's really a crap shoot .. some shows on various networks will have entire seasons stacked OnDemand, others will quickly pull an episode soon after it hits OnDemand .. no real rhyme nor reason to it, other than I suspect attempts to collect PPV fees if you missed something and need to catch up ..

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Unfortunately, that would require watching on a computer. Not my preference, but I guess beggars can't be choosers.
If I'm in a pinch, laptop HDMI out ported to the TV is OK .. just expect less than stellar quality ..

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If I'm in a pinch, laptop HDMI out ported to the TV is OK .. just expect less than stellar quality ..
For that to work on my Macbook, I'd need a USB to HDMI cable. I'm not even sure if that animal exists...
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