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post #421 of 820 Old 08-06-2014, 02:39 PM
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Do you have an X1 DVR? I've found that in the last several months the box loses the ability to recognize 5.1 every time I turn on my TV or projector and a new HDMI handshake is established. However, if I go into the setup menu, change the Audio setting to "Stereo" and then change it back to "Surround" again, I can get full 5.1. I have to do this every time I turn on my equipment.

This is a relatively recent development. It didn't do this a few months ago.

The Last Ship still sounds awful, though. Other shows on other networks sound fine.
I do have an X1 DVR. For me, it's been happening since I got it. Sounds like my X1 bug might be a bit different version of the strain. After watching a recorded show, when switching back to cable tv, it stays in 2.0. I have to go into the menu and select 'stereo' then back to 'surround' and then 5.1 kicks in. This is on EVERY show watched via DVR. Once I get it back to 5.1 it will remember the surround setting when I turn on my pj. However, once a DVR'd show is watched it's back to 2.0.

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I got my first X1 box last week (ARRIS-Motorola XG1-M), and so far it stays on Surround, Dolby Digital [3/2.1].
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When you say 'sound sucks on Comcast', what you really mean is 'on Comcast DVR'. The sound is DD 5.1 and is just fine with my Tivo Roamio DVR on Comcast.
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^ yeah, that's what I was about to write. My Tivo Premiere using Comcast cablecard has NO problem with the surround sound. I gave up on Comcast dvr's a couple years ago. . .and what they want for X1 (especially after reading the above issues) - no thanks!
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C'mon guys, this show is total cheese and everyone knows it. I don't see anything that hints that they're trying to take themselves seriously. Does it make sense that she gets on the ship without suits and a quarantine? No. Does it make sense that the Captain goes on all the missions? No.

And it's not supposed to, just roll with it.


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When you say 'sound sucks on Comcast', what you really mean is 'on Comcast DVR'. The sound is DD 5.1 and is just fine with my Tivo Roamio DVR on Comcast.
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^ yeah, that's what I was about to write. My Tivo Premiere using Comcast cablecard has NO problem with the surround sound. I gave up on Comcast dvr's a couple years ago. . .and what they want for X1 (especially after reading the above issues) - no thanks!
Yep, me three. The 5.1 audio on The Last Ship sounds just as good on my TiVo Premiere Elite as any other 5.1 audio does.


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At least they are not under a giant dome ..
As silly as The Last Ship often is, compared to what happens on Under the Dome, it's a news report.
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I've read that the X1 DVR from Comcast has been problematic ever since they brought it to market. They wanted me to upgrade to it, I did some research and told them. "thanks, but no thanks", got a TiVo Roamio Basic and couldn't be happier.
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I've read that the X1 DVR from Comcast has been problematic ever since they brought it to market. They wanted me to upgrade to it, I did some research and told them. "thanks, but no thanks", got a TiVo Roamio Basic and couldn't be happier.
I've heard that the Cox Whole Home DVR is just as bug ridden as the Comcast X1 apparently is. I have had TiVos ever since 2000 but for a few years before the TiVo Series3 was introduced, I had to use a Cox DVR in order to record programs in HD. Once the Series3 boxes hit the street, though I dumped the Cox HD DVR with a smile on my face. I have used only TiVos ever since.

The only downside to modern TiVo boxes is that they make us slaves to the cable companies. What the hell, though, I am old and set in my ways and Cox is also my high speed Internet and telephone provider so it is unlikely I would give up on Cox Communications even if I didn't have TiVos.
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When you say 'sound sucks on Comcast', what you really mean is 'on Comcast DVR'. The sound is DD 5.1 and is just fine with my Tivo Roamio DVR on Comcast.
As I wrote previously, I can get 5.1 from my DVR recordings if I toggle the Surround setting off and back on. I get The Last Ship in 5.1. It sounds very poor, even in 5.1. The dynamic range is compressed to hell. Other network programming is much better.

I don't know whether this is a Comcast issue or a TNT issue, but it's been pretty consistent since the show premiered.

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I've read that the X1 DVR from Comcast has been problematic ever since they brought it to market. They wanted me to upgrade to it, I did some research and told them. "thanks, but no thanks", got a TiVo Roamio Basic and couldn't be happier.
The X1 can be buggy, yes. But despite those bugs, it's by far the nicest DVR I've ever used. Its interface is so much more intuitive than any other brand or model I've tried.

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I've heard that the Cox Whole Home DVR is just as bug ridden as the Comcast X1 apparently is. I have had TiVos ever since 2000 but for a few years before the TiVo Series3 was introduced, I had to use a Cox DVR in order to record programs in HD. Once the Series3 boxes hit the street, though I dumped the Cox HD DVR with a smile on my face. I have used only TiVos ever since.

The only downside to modern TiVo boxes is that they make us slaves to the cable companies. What the hell, though, I am old and set in my ways and Cox is also my high speed Internet and telephone provider so it is unlikely I would give up on Cox Communications even if I didn't have TiVos.
The Roamio Basic can be used as an OTA DVR, which could come in handy were I to move a bit closer to where the transmitters are, while the 2 upper models are cable only. There is a DIRECTV TiVo now but from what I've read it doesn't stand up too well against the company's own brand of DVRs.
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The X1 can be buggy, yes. But despite those bugs, it's by far the nicest DVR I've ever used. Its interface is so much more intuitive than any other brand or model I've tried.
I was tempted to be sure, this was before I got the 4 tuner TiVo, but my browsing of X1 forums scared me away. It's supposed to be quite the marvel though and hopefully it will eventually perform as advertised. There's not many things worse than sitting down to watch your favorite show and have the DVR give you what amounts to a "wut?" when you try and play the requested program.
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Well here's to you guys and your fancy Tivo's that let you watch DVR'd shows in 5.1

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The Roamio Basic can be used as an OTA DVR, which could come in handy were I to move a bit closer to where the transmitters are, while the 2 upper models are cable only. There is a DIRECTV TiVo now but from what I've read it doesn't stand up too well against the company's own brand of DVRs.
I forgot that the latest TiVos once again can receive OTA signals. My TiVo Premiere Elite can't do that but it nevertheless serves my purposes perfectly. These days I have no need for OTA and the Premiere Elite is equipped with a 2TB hard drive and is covered by a Lifetime Subscription. Should I ever need to receive an OTA signal I could use my Series3, which still works as well as ever and is also covered with a Lifetime Subscription.
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The X1 can be buggy, yes. But despite those bugs, it's by far the nicest DVR I've ever used. Its interface is so much more intuitive than any other brand or model I've tried.
I hear you. If you are pleased with the X1 overall, it clearly makes sense for you to keep it, occasional bugs notwithstanding. Despite being a TiVo fanboy of many years standing, I am the first to admit that TiVos aren't perfect.
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I hear you. If you are pleased with the X1 overall, it clearly makes sense for you to keep it, occasional bugs notwithstanding. Despite being a TiVo fanboy of many years standing, I am the first to admit that TiVos aren't perfect.
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C'mon guys, this show is total cheese and everyone knows it. I don't see anything that hints that they're trying to take themselves seriously. Does it make sense that she gets on the ship without suits and a quarantine? No. Does it make sense that the Captain goes on all the missions? No.

And it's not supposed to, just roll with it.
I hear what you're saying, and I have definitely been trying to "just roll with it". But every time I start getting into the story, etc., I get slammed by beyond-belief faux pas that shock the sensibilities of reason. This show has all the great ingredients to make an excellent show, but blows the opportunity with simple story-line mistakes. Perhaps my expectations were set too high after that well-made pilot. It's not too late to "right" the Ship, if only the writers and director paid a little more attention to story detail. As for the ship and actors, this is all good.
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It's just like 24, leave your believability blinkers off and go with the action. Just like pretty much any action movie or show ever made. Plus it's summer time, what do you expect?

The ship doesn't need to be righted, in other words. Other than the (mostly) realistic showing of life aboard the ship, it's not a serious show. You're on the wrong network if you want something a little more realistic.

BOOM.
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I enjoyed tonight's episode especially the (2/seco)nd half. Now, it is The Last Ship again until another ship comes up? Hehe.
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It's just like 24, leave your believability blinkers off and go with the action. Just like pretty much any action movie or show ever made. Plus it's summer time, what do you expect?

The ship doesn't need to be righted, in other words. Other than the (mostly) realistic showing of life aboard the ship, it's not a serious show. You're on the wrong network if you want something a little more realistic.

BOOM.
Want realism? Watch documentaries.
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Seems like there is more footage of the ship moving when they come out of commercial than in the actual show.

On audio: that strong bass explosion at the end of the episode was amazing.
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Seems like there is more footage of the ship moving when they come out of commercial than in the actual show.

On audio: that strong bass explosion at the end of the episode was amazing.
Yep, even with my measley 2.1 speaker setup. Haha. I wonder if we will see new Russians. Hmm!
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Actually, I liked tonight's episode very much, but you missed the point of my critique entirely. Similar to reading a fictional novel, this is story-telling, and when the writer and/or director makes some big slip-ups/mistakes in the telling of the story, you risk losing the reader altogether. Just to simply wax over these story faux pas errors is intellectual laziness. Otherwise, the writers, creators, director, etc. can just throw any mesh-mash on the wall, and call it acceptable for mass audiences to lap-up.
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Seems like there is more footage of the ship moving when they come out of commercial than in the actual show.
I'm guessing the Navy just gave them access to the ship for a day or two and they filled a drive with all those shots that they then dole out during the season.
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Pretty good episode. I always love it when TV shows make the mighty Russians look like a bunch of bumbling fools.
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Watching the Russian ship sitting dead in the water while serial explosives are being detonated all over the ship was a lot of fun. The only thing that might have made the episode more fun would have been to see the detestable and thoroughly deranged Admiral Ruskov die particularly painfully.

Somebody needs to take away the toothpick that the Scandinavian scientist, who is Patient Zero, always has dangling from his mouth.

Loved it when Doctor Scott (Rhona Mitra) blew out the brains of the Russian officer. It reminded me of her days as the kick-ass Major Rachel Dalton on Strike Back. In fact, there is a lot about the over the top violence of The Last Ship that reminds me of Strike Back. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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