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...Watched the pilot last night, and loved it. High production value, good cast, good story, I'm very much looking forward to the next episodes.
Pretty much feel the same, the production values were more movie quality than standard TV fare.

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... Anything that happens on a ship at sea, I'm already sold anyway.
Did you like "Triangle" with Melissa George?

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Did you like "Triangle" with Melissa George?
Unfortunately I haven't seen it yet. I've heard it's very good...
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Did you like "Triangle" with Melissa George?
Great film! In fact it may be about time to watch it again, thanks for the reminder.
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Unfortunately I haven't seen it yet. I've heard it's very good...
It was very polarizing at our house...
I, along with one daughter really liked it, my wife and the other daughter really disliked it.
If you're a Melissa George fan, then it's highly recommended (along with the Brit TV mini-series "Hunted").

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Good story; will have to see how it pans out over the season. Technically, the production values are superb. Like watching a mini motion picture.

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triangle is a great movie I would at least watch it twice to more understand what is going on.
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triangle is a great movie I would at least watch it twice to more understand what is going on.
Yeah, Triangle is a trip. Just when you think you have it figured out, it blows your mind.

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triangle is a great movie I would at least watch it twice to more understand what is going on.
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Yeah, Triangle is a trip. Just when you think you have it figured out, it blows your mind.
Yes, it's one of those rare "Wait, what? I think I need to watch that again" films.
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I want to know where all the Nuke boats are.
Unloading on France, what else?

When Governments dissolve and there's no chain of command to answer to, it's inevitable that the majority of sub Captains are going to attack France, regardless of their previous affiliation.
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triangle is a movie that when its over you think about it for days after.
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Despite my being pretty underwhelmed by Melissa George's acting chops, you guys convinced me that Triangle is worth watching. To that end, I have setup a Wish List on my TiVo to record the film when it next plays on TV, as it inevitably will one of these days. Thanks for the tip!
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Despite my being pretty underwhelmed by Melissa George's acting chops, you guys convinced me that Triangle is worth watching. To that end, I have setup a Wish List on my TiVo to record the film when it next plays on TV, as it inevitably will one of these days. Thanks for the tip!
The story itself is the star of the film, any reasonably competent actress could have played the role, and like you, I think at her best George falls into that category.
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guys....you convinced me! I've ordered Triangle... I was tempted by the film for quite some time but it was actually one of these "I'll get it later" cases... it'll help while I wait for the next episode of TLS
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morpheo after you watch triangle tell us what you think,as for the last ship we really like it.
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I kept asking myself, "Where is the helo they were using?" If the lab is in the helo storage area, where is it?

The sat phone gave me pause as well. First was the fact that she was using it inside a metal shell. IMHO, that phone should not work where she was. She needed to be outside. Second, the Russians were not going to be able to detect that phone from within their border, as they would have been too far away. They would have to have known that one was going to be used and that they would have to have been searching for one. I know, needed for the plot line.

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Triangle - hadn't watched that one. But I will Thanks for the recommendation.

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Triangle - hadn't watched that one. But I will Thanks for the recommendation.
Watched it last night. Really good movie with a very small cast.
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I wonder if that was an accurate representation of how a modern Destroyer class vessel would fare against a few attacking helicopters?
They seemed to have no problem taking them out.

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I wonder if that was an accurate representation of how a modern Destroyer class vessel would fare against a few attacking helicopters?
They seemed to have no problem taking them out.
Taking them out would be no problem - and they could do it without letting them get anywhere near as close as they did.

Not wise to directly assault a modern warship with a helicopter.
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This show defines the word cheese. But hey, it's summer and the living's easy so I'll be on board for a while to see how it goes.
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This show defines the word cheese. But hey, it's summer and the living's easy so I'll be on board for a while to see how it goes.
... and what's better than cheese on a boat?
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I kept asking myself, "Where is the helo they were using?" If the lab is in the helo storage area, where is it?
That is indeed a good question. It wouldn't surprise me if some day IMDB lists that as a continuity error.

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As usual, Rhona Mitra was at her hard-bitten but beautiful best, this time as a scientist. Now that we know her assistant is a Russian mole, there's no telling what might happen.
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The sat phone gave me pause as well. First was the fact that she was using it inside a metal shell. IMHO, that phone should not work where she was. She needed to be outside. Second, the Russians were not going to be able to detect that phone from within their border, as they would have been too far away. They would have to have known that one was going to be used and that they would have to have been searching for one. I know, needed for the plot line.
A sat phone could have been used while they were away from the ship, or while on deck and getting a breath of fresh air.

As far as locating the ship, even though the dialog suggested that it was by use of the sat phone, we found out later that there was a Russian mole. That mole seems to have a way of communicating. Which, again, how is he communicating from within the helo storage area? Either he tapped the communications system of the ship, or somehow ran a wire to an exterior antenna. In any case, the mole could have alerted the Russians of the the ship and its location.

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My problem was the EMP taking down the engine room which is in an all metal cage (the ship itself) and should have been shielded from its effects.
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Taking them out would be no problem - and they could do it without letting them get anywhere near as close as they did.

Not wise to directly assault a modern warship with a helicopter.

That's what I was thinking. They hit a a target that was 5' x 2' from a great distance, but couldn't pick off some choppers before they got that close? Of course they could in real life, but this is TV.
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My problem was the EMP taking down the engine room which is in an all metal cage (the ship itself) and should have been shielded from its effects.
Yeah, I agree. I toured an Arleigh Burke class missile destroyer when I was in San Diego one time. It was the USS Paul Hamilton. The one they're using on the show is probably newer but it looks pretty much identical. Not only is the ship itself a big steel box, but I recall the crewman who acted as guide saying that the critical electrical systems were additionally shielded against the EMP from an air burst of a nuclear weapon.

I was always more of a fighter jet sort of guy so I'd never really kept up with the technology that was going into ships. I was really impressed with what I saw. They were using radar absorbing paint all over and the outside corners had some sort of heavy foam rubber to be even more absorbant. The island and the mast are built at angles to try to redirect radar away from the source rather than bouncing it back. The ships are designed to be able to seal off the crew from radiological, chemical and biological threats so they can keep going even in a dirty fight.

They can launch Tomahawk cruise missiles as well as standard missiles at land targets, Harpoon missiles at other ships, anti-submarine rockets and torpedoes at submarines, and the two five inch guns for anything else. The Phallanx systems are the primary defense against incoming threats, throwing up to 4500 rounds per minute of depleted uranium or tungsten at fast moving targets.

These ships were designed primarily to defend other warships in their group against enemy ships and submarines so it was the perfect choice for this story with its high survivability. I'm hoping they keep up with the action and we'll see some awesome fights in the future. This should be great summer fare.
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I wonder if that was an accurate representation of how a modern Destroyer class vessel would fare against a few attacking helicopters?
They seemed to have no problem taking them out.
It would be even quicker than it happened on the show.
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A sat phone could have been used while they were away from the ship, or while on deck and getting a breath of fresh air.
Yep, I kinda said that. But, they showed its use inside the hull.

[/quote= ]As far as locating the ship, even though the dialog suggested that it was by use of the sat phone, we found out later that there was a Russian mole. That mole seems to have a way of communicating. Which, again, how is he communicating from within the helo storage area? Either he tapped the communications system of the ship, or somehow ran a wire to an exterior antenna. In any case, the mole could have alerted the Russians of the the ship and its location.[/QUOTE]

You are right, it was probably the mole. But, the captain should have known that it could have been the sat phone. Plot line so that they won't go looking for the real culprit. The mole would not have had access to any of the antennas. Those areas are access controlled.

Also, why didn't anyone in the communication area detect either transmitter? A wide band spectrum analyzer would have detected a strong local transmitter. I have no clue if a modern destroyer has that ability.

Speaking of access, I was in the Navy, working as part of NavSecGru as a Communication Technician (electric repair), with a top secret clearance. While stationed on the east coast of Scotland, during the last year (1973) of my tour the Navy changed the access to various rooms that had equipment that I would work on. After a year and a half, I needed to be escorted in the rooms that I knew all about. Strange rule. But, that is th service for ya.

My job was land locked. I was in for 6 years and a day and never knew what a Navy ship was like.

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another good movie you guys might like is a perfect getaway its got timothy olyphant of justified in it.real good movie from start to finish,and what a finish.
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another good movie you guys might like is a perfect getaway its got timothy olyphant of justified in it.real good movie from start to finish,and what a finish.
Couldn't agree more! I have seen A Perfect Getaway a couple of times and really enjoyed it both times. Highly recommended, 8 Stars out of 10.
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Weird, I received an e-mail saying I was quoted (post 87), but never got an e-mail about the posting and when I look at this thread, there is no quoted posting.

Looking at my post, I noticed I wrote that I did electric repair. Oops, it was electronic repair.

It seems that the quoter asked what I was and I indicated that; Communication Technician. In 1973 I was a CTM2. It was like an ETM, but for land locked electronic gear.

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