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Weird, I received an e-mail saying I was quoted (post 87), but never got an e-mail about the posting and when I look at this thread, there is no quoted posting.

Looking at my post, I noticed I wrote that I did electric repair. Oops, it was electronic repair.

It seems that the quoter asked what I was and I indicated that; Communication Technician. In 1973 I was a CTM2. It was like an ETM, but for land locked electronic gear.
That was me. I could not get the post to format how I wanted, so I deleted it. I was wondering your rating. I was an EM on subs, and targets.
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That was me. I could not get the post to format how I wanted, so I deleted it. I was wondering your rating. I was an EM on subs, and targets.
There seem to be several of us old navy guys posting to this thread.
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There seem to be several of us old navy guys posting to this thread.
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Enjoyed the first episode,hope the quality continues.
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Reasonably enjoyable first episode. They really seemed to rush things - for instance they could have had an entire tense episode just around the nuclear missile (who fired it? where is it going? can they stop it?) - but not too poorly done despite a few flaws. I'm impressed how much coverage they got on a real ship. I even bought all the action on the cruise ship. And they're not over-selling the freaky nature of the virus and its affects either - shots of the bodies in the fridge, for instance, were brief and they let them speak for themselves. Good stuff with just a whiff of cheese. I'll keep watching unless it totally devolves somehow.
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I was impressed at the production values for a TV show. I know it's not uncommon these days to throw $10 million or so at a pilot (with a pedigree) but I bet this one went far beyond that. However, it's a good story, and yes, it looks great, the actors are fine, and btw it did good numbers. I think it's a winner for TNT.
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I was impressed at the production values for a TV show. I know it's not uncommon these days to throw $10 million or so at a pilot (with a pedigree) but I bet this one went far beyond that. However, it's a good story, and yes, it looks great, the actors are fine, and btw it did good numbers. I think it's a winner for TNT.
Supposedly it was $9 million. Just under LOST's pilot episode.
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Supposedly it was $9 million. Just under LOST's pilot episode.
That's surprising to me. But, it is a basic cable show, that's still a lot for tightly budgeted cable. And, if that's all it was, it looked like they put every dollar on screen.
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As a late 60s DDG Navy guy, I can't comment on today's DDGs except they are an order of magnitude more technologically advanced (our gun computer was analog/mechanical and a lot of the electronics used vacuum tubes). Was amazed that the 1MC the Captain used looked like the same one we had. Wondered if they still used sound-powered telephones?

A few nits:
1. The Captain saluted uncovered which never happened in my day.
2. Maybe they don't issue it anymore but couldn't see anyone w/ the Nat'l Defense Ribbon. Used to be the first one rec'd.
3. Seemed like a lot of submariners on a destroyer, Captain, XO, and others.
4. Why were the Russkies not in white clothing? Sure made easier targets.
5. And the aforementioned EMP knocking out the ship's electrics.
6. Why did the Captain's holding the fuse in keep it from blowing?

But it's a Navy show w/ Rhona Mitra in it, so I'm in.

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As a late 60s DDG Navy guy, I can't comment on today's DDGs except they are an order of magnitude more technologically advanced (our gun computer was analog/mechanical and a lot of the electronics used vacuum tubes). Was amazed that the 1MC the Captain used looked like the same one we had. Wondered if they still used sound-powered telephones?

A few nits:
1. The Captain saluted uncovered which never happened in my day.
2. Maybe they don't issue it anymore but couldn't see anyone w/ the Nat'l Defense Ribbon. Used to be the first one rec'd.
3. Seemed like a lot of submariners on a destroyer, Captain, XO, and others.
4. Why were the Russkies not in white clothing? Sure made easier targets.
5. And the aforementioned EMP knocking out the ship's electrics.
6. Why did the Captain's holding the fuse in keep it from blowing?

But it's a Navy show w/ Rhona Mitra in it, so I'm in.
As another old navy guy, let me comment on some of your thoughts. Like you, I jumped when the CO saluted uncovered but then I remembered that it's all right to return a salute uncovered if not doing so might appear to be bad manners. Thus, I thought the CO could be given credit for doing the polite thing.

Didn't notice the absence of National Defense Ribbons but will take your word for it.

I thought the the ship's officers were wearing Surface Warfare Officer badges, not submariners' dolphins. I could be wrong about that, too, though.
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Was unaware of the courtesy uncovered salute.
Edit: Were they outside when the guy saluted the skipper?

Not sure they had a Surface Warfare Officer badge in my era. Will check closer tonite.

These were all small nits compared to some Navy series/movies I've seen in the past.

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Was unaware of the courtesy uncovered salute.
As I recall in my 121 months of service, there were times when salutes were *required* ... there was never any prohibition against saluting at any time ... except perhaps under live fire conditions.

For a while in my branch we had E3 lapel epaulet insignias that looked very much like 1Lt bars from a distance ... you didn't want to take any chances there. I got saluted more than a few times in the early years.

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How I love that 5" gun. Wonder if there's anyone in the magazine to load the shells and projectiles. Firing rate?

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Another good episode. I wasn't keeping count, but it seemed like more than 14 hostiles at Gitmo.

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See 5"/54 caliber Mark 45 gun for more detail but the gun autoloads from a 20 round magazine (they showed it being auto loaded).
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I think the plot is carrying the show. The story beats are fine, but writing is kinda of cheesy .
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Was unaware of the courtesy uncovered salute.
Edit: Were they outside when the guy saluted the skipper?

Not sure they had a Surface Warfare Officer badge in my era. Will check closer tonite.

These were all small nits compared to some Navy series/movies I've seen in the past.
My ACDU years were before yours but after being released from active duty I continued to serve in the Naval Reserve for 30 years. The The SWO pin was introduced in 1975.
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As I recall in my 121 months of service, there were times when salutes were *required* ... there was never any prohibition against saluting at any time ... except perhaps under live fire conditions.



IIRC, the not saluting uncovered was just in the Navy. I think the other branches always saluted anywhere, covered our not.

On a separate note, I guess it never occurred to the refueling crew to use the piece of pipe as a lever in the handwheel instead of just beating on it and then breaking it off.

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IIRC, the not saluting uncovered was just in the Navy. I think the other branches always saluted anywhere, covered our not.
I recall once being bamboozled by a petty-officer's cap insignia. ... We both had a good laugh afterwords. I could never keep all the Navy uniforms and insignia straight.
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On a separate note, I guess it never occurred to the refueling crew to use the piece of pipe as a lever in the handwheel instead of just beating on it and then breaking it off.
I could be mistaken, but I think the first few seconds of that scene show them doing exactly that - using it as a lever. When that didn't work, frustration resulted in using it to beat the handwheel.
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lots of action,nice second episode.
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Super cheesy second episode. I'm pretty sure I heard the faceless evil Arabs in the background yelling, "Derka derka derka, Mohammed Jihad! Derka Derka!!"

"One thing hasn't changed. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists." D'oh, I guess this episode was written a few months ago. Bad timing on that one.
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Excellent second episode. Very solid. Nice use of the ship as support. Good tension in the warehouse, all in all a really good follow up to the premiere. While I knew it was going to the be the Russians I was really hoping it was a British ship for more support/fire power.

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IIRC, the not saluting uncovered was just in the Navy. I think the other branches always saluted anywhere, covered our not.

On a separate note, I guess it never occurred to the refueling crew to use the piece of pipe as a lever in the handwheel instead of just beating on it and then breaking it off.
The Marine corps as well, no saluting when uncovered and no covers worn indoors unless you were under arms.
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"One thing hasn't changed. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists." D'oh, I guess this episode was written a few months ago. Bad timing on that one.

My wife said the same thing when she heard that. LOL


Some good tension in the episode that made it go by quickly.
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On a separate note, I guess it never occurred to the refueling crew to use the piece of pipe as a lever in the handwheel instead of just beating on it and then breaking it off.
What I noticed more than that was using a welding torch on a fuel line. 'DOH!
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"One thing hasn't changed. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists." D'oh, I guess this episode was written a few months ago. Bad timing on that one.
Technically, it's never been true.

We've been negotiating with terrorists for hostages for decades.

I think the real meaning of the phrase is more along the lines of "We don't negotiate with terrorists for anything of monetary value..."
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The Marine corps as well, no saluting when uncovered and no covers worn indoors unless you were under arms.
As you probably know, Joe, The Gyrines fall under the Navy rules, too.

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Technically, it's never been true.

We've been negotiating with terrorists for hostages for decades.

I think the real meaning of the phrase is more along the lines of "We don't negotiate with terrorists for anything of monetary value..."
Yep, the rule is that America doesn't negotiate with terrorists -- except when it does.

I too really enjoyed Episode 2. Lots of tension and blowing stuff up using for a framework the surprisingly plausible depiction of the crew of a US Navy ship.
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