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post #181 of 193 Old 07-15-2014, 12:10 PM - Thread Starter
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Myself, I believe the show does a pretty good job with the period detail, and I posted such a while back .. as far as the workspace goes, as a guy that lived thru that era, it's pretty well what it was like ..

Although it is not quite spot on time accurate, I would not mind seeing a Transformer or a GoBot on a desk here and there .. I would also tend to think that stores that are still in existence like Radio Shack would welcome a free placement in the show .. on placing a brick phone in the show, the timeframe is right on as far as 1983, but there were not a lot of users ..

The Dallas / Ft Worth metro area was not a hotbed of fashion during that era .. boots and cowboy hats were considered fashion ..

Historically, Texas was hard hit by the Savings and Loan crisis, S&L's carried 50% of the Home Loan market at the time and Texas contained 40% of the S&L failures .. mortgage loans had exploded in the late 1970's, early 1980's .. and much of it was unsound .. one of the reasons I felt some deja vu in 2007-2008 when the "Great Recession" came down ..

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Myself, I believe the show does a pretty good job with the period detail, and I posted such a while back .. as far as the workspace goes, as a guy that lived thru that era, it's pretty well what it was like ..
The problem is, it's not enough to just be accurate with this show because the 80's was such a vivid time for some many people. To do the 80's, you have to do it to excess the way everyone did it back then.

The 80's was the start of "spend now, pay later". Cars had squared off, razor thin front ends to match the blade the party set was cutting their coke with. The 80's was when the cable industry took off with the establishment of networks like ESPN, MTV and CNN. We had Michael Jackson, the Space Shuttle and Ronald Reagan, all three of which we looked at as being gravity defying back then. We thought technology was the future with shows like Knight Rider, Airwolf and Street Hawk. We saw a time machine made out of a Delorean, the rebirth of Star Trek and the first new broadcast TV network in about 40 years.

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Although it is not quite spot on time accurate, I would not mind seeing a Transformer or a GoBot on a desk here and there .. I would also tend to think that stores that are still in existence like Radio Shack would welcome a free placement in the show .. on placing a brick phone in the show, the timeframe is right on as far as 1983, but there were not a lot of users ..
Well, if it actually makes it to a second season, they could cover 1984, which means they'd not only have Transformers, but the advent of the Macintosh.

As far as the cell phone, a guy like Joe would have one. Heck, if he didn't have one, he's so image conscious, he'd have a fake one - which many people back then actually did, just to look more important.

...and speaking of Apple, in all the conversations they had about the cost of the system, I don't think any of those guys brought up the Lisa, which was a massively expensive system and and even bigger failure for Apple pre-Mac.

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The Dallas / Ft Worth metro area was not a hotbed of fashion during that era .. boots and cowboy hats were considered fashion ..

Historically, Texas was hard hit by the Savings and Loan crisis, S&L's carried 50% of the Home Loan market at the time and Texas contained 40% of the S&L failures .. mortgage loans had exploded in the late 1970's, early 1980's .. and much of it was unsound .. one of the reasons I felt some deja vu in 2007-2008 when the "Great Recession" came down ..
Even going that route, I'm not seeing much of that on the show. It doesn't feel like Texas, either - 80's or not. For all they give an atmosphere for the show, it could be located in Petaluma.

At least The Americans, despite not being shot there, gives a feeling of DC, especially with those 70's era "cement bunker architecture" government workers so often worked in. We have one of those giant eyesores in my home town - it's grid a cement squares meant solely to house workers with little regard for those that have to look at it. Think J. Edgar Hoover building, but even uglier with 5 times as many stories so you see it from everywhere in the city.
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That was a damn good episode and Comdex next week looks good too.
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That was a damn good episode and Comdex next week looks good too.
Yep, I really like this show, I hope some way or the other it survives. Even got Donna on board now.
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They got the Comdex booth right next to Commodore and Tandy...

For a trip down memory lane- here's a three part video walk-through of the fall 1983 Comdex:

At 15m40s in you'll see a very young Bill Gates....


Look at those styles oh my!
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My feet hurt already!
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My compound eyes and ears aren't. Is 1983 the oldest? If not, when did Comdex start? We should look for the older ones.
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I was about to give up on this show. Then I read that this latest episode was really good. I agree, best one so far. The Donna twist, was awesome.

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Just caught up on the DVR (so I can read and post on this thread) and both my wife and I are really enjoying this.

The Comdex episode next week will bring back memories as I was regular attendee at Comdex in the 80's and 90's.

I see a few posts saying ' if it survives' - are the ratings poor? Is it likely to get a second season?

I thought it was only Network TV were I enjoyed a show and then it got cancelled -seems it might be happening on cable as well (just discovered Rubicon on Amazon and sad it only got one series...)

That said we have pretty much given up on the Network shows - lot of good shows on cable + Netflix/Amazon/Hulu+ for older and international shows are better than whatever the latest detective/crime drama on Network TV...
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BTW, I had a good laugh: the "Giant" portable PC they're developing looks a heckuva lot like Apple's first Macintosh Portable...



This computer came out in September of 1989, and (to me) was a clunker even then. Given that the show takes place around 1983 -- I think we're in November for Comdex, right? -- it's pretty advanced for the time.

I've rarely seen a show with a lead character as flawed yet as charismatic as Joe in this show. He's a real enigma, and you never really know what kind of reality he's spinning at any one time.
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They got the Comdex booth right next to Commodore and Tandy...

For a trip down memory lane- here's a three part video walk-through of the fall 1983 Comdex:

At 15m40s in you'll see a very young Bill Gates....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNS8TE4XhU

Look at those styles oh my!
I hope the Halt research folks viewed that video before they shot the scenes for the show. It would be awesome if they could come even close to that atmosphere.

However, my fear is that their reproduction of it will look more like this:

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I hope the Halt research folks viewed that video before they shot the scenes for the show. It would be awesome if they could come even close to that atmosphere.
Well it wouldn't be difficult or expensive to get some 1983 vintage computers..
Commodore had the C64 out at that time, Tandy had the TRS-80 Model 2000, Color Computer and the portable Model 100 out and as we know TI had the 994a- all are readily available on ebay for cheap...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Vintage-Comp...ntage+computer



For fun- here's some early Tandy Computer catalogs from 1977-1992 :
http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/computer.html

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Well it wouldn't be difficult or expensive to get some 1983 vintage computers..
Commodore had the C64 out at that time, Tandy had the TRS-80 Model 2000, Color Computer and the portable Model 100 out and as we know TI had the 994a- all are readily available on ebay for cheap...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Vintage-Comp...ntage+computer



For fun- here's some early Tandy Computer catalogs from 1977-1992 :
http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/computer.html
They don't even need to do that.

There are rental companies that have all that stuff, all cataloged for exactly what era they fit into.

As far as the event itself, the cheapest way to go about it is to rent one of the very many vacant retail big box storefronts, fill it with mockups with all the booths and grab some establishing shots of the whole view to sell it. Then clear everyone unnecessary out and shoot your main drama in a smaller, isolated portion where you can't see the rest of the "venue". Create deliberate choke points to limit the number of extras during those portions.

Heck, fort the wide shots, you don't even need that many computers. Just print a bunch of those cardboard fake ones they used to place on office furniture to show how it might look with a 40 pound home computer with CRT would look on it.

Just the fact that half the dividers are curtains at these events makes it cheap to build - probably cheaper than those outdoor shoots of the family truckster they're driving to the event.
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