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I'm wondering if someone is feeding book information there since that wasn't revealed in the show
Yeah it was. There was a commercial for it on a TV in the background during one of the past two episodes.
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Yeah it was. There was a commercial for it on a TV in the background during one of the past two episodes.

Yes it's been said about 3 times now I wasn't really bring serious. Just playing the "book" spoil fear seems people missed my wink at the end


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Sorry, I missed that that was a thing for this show.
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Sorry, I missed that that was a thing for this show.

It wasn't, just a play on other areas I really didn't mean anything by it


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Wow, this series is becoming seriously depressing.
Being that we already know they won't be delving into the actual disappearance event- It seems like we're in for a very somber ride.

And the Chief's kid is a little bi**h!

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Which one?

Lindelhof sprinkled in a lot of warm, touching episodes with Lost, you know the swelling music when they kill off a cast member.

I get that all the characters are anguished, as they were on the island. Yeah being stranded on an island would fill you with angst.

Here, everyone has been touched by a disappearance in some way. But is there anyone still getting joy out of life? Maybe the teens with their hijinks?

Maybe some 2-year old toddlers would be smiling and laughing?
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...And the Chief's kid is a little bi**h!
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Which one?
The girl.
She sees her father's having a hard time- with the mayor, the white clad group, his wife, and now his son's awol... and she still goes off and does dumb $hit that causes him even more grief- then she gives him attitude at home.

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Last week's episode is still sitting on the DVR, the comments about it give me no more hope than the characters themselves, and I have to make a decision about whether or not to watch this one and stick it out for the duration...






Nah, life is too short. I'm flushing it like a Guilty Remnant cigarette butt. I'll check back in here periodically to see if Damon's just been sandbagging us and if he has anything interesting to say about the disappearance itself, because that's the only thing remotely interesting about this whole show. That is, if anybody on AVS is still watching and this thread is still alive after a few more.

Paradoxically, it does seem to be drawing a decent audience for HBO. Go figure.
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I never once thought Rapture, as that would probably be depicted differently. Aliens/scientific experiment/paranormal sure, but I don't fixate on that since the mystery of what happened isn't what the show is about.
doesn't the picture from the opening credits point to the Rapture ? or is it the producers way of playing with us?
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doesn't the picture from the opening credits point to the Rapture ? or is it the producers way of playing with us?

Renaissance deco, not Rapture really. There was an article a page or two back that discussed the title sequence. Per the article it was meant to capture the pain/anguish of those "left behind".


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Which one?

Lindelhof sprinkled in a lot of warm, touching episodes with Lost, you know the swelling music when they kill off a cast member.

I get that all the characters are anguished, as they were on the island. Yeah being stranded on an island would fill you with angst.

Here, everyone has been touched by a disappearance in some way. But is there anyone still getting joy out of life? Maybe the teens with their hijinks?

Maybe some 2-year old toddlers would be smiling and laughing?

I wouldn't say the teens are getting joy out of life. They're just leading lives of noisy desperation.

I'll say this much for Lost: the first season was really exciting and intriguing and there were no annoying teens. (Well, there was Shannon but she was just self involved and not actively trying to screw things up.)

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The girl.
She sees her father's having a hard time- with the mayor, the white clad group, his wife, and now his son's awol... and she still goes off and does dumb $hit that causes him even more grief- then she gives him attitude at home.
Sooooo ... typical teen behavior then.
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The girl.
She sees her father's having a hard time- with the mayor, the white clad group, his wife, and now his son's awol... and she still goes off and does dumb $hit that causes him even more grief- then she gives him attitude at home.

The world revolves around her right now, yes, she's a twat.

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Good episode, but brutal. That opening scene may be the most violent thing I've seen on television. I really do like it, but this show is certainly living up to it's reputation as a downer.
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During the chief's call to the AFTEC, I find it kind of sinister that the Federal Government is trying to extinguish the cults. We saw it during the attack on the Holy Wayne compound. Also the final scene shows mass burnings of cult member bodies. These cults seem to be a growing problem on a national scale.
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I take it the GR is just a local thing then. I figured it was a nationwide group.

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Hours later and I am still disturbed by that opening scene. It was just sickening to watch that play out and the indifference from everyone involved is heartbreaking. To make it worse was I really did like Gladdys even in her limited role. I don't really care about the "great mystery" of this show, but I do want them to not let this go unanswered.
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I take it the GR is just a local thing then. I figured it was a nationwide group.

They may be slightly bigger, but from what we can see now they are local only. There are many groups just like them across the country though.

Disturbing yet great episode. I'm glad I stuck around as the human element is one shows like this never really go into. We also got confirmation that the man shooting dogs is real.
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Hours later and I am still disturbed by that opening scene. It was just sickening to watch that play out and the indifference from everyone involved is heartbreaking. To make it worse was I really did like Gladdys even in her limited role. I don't really care about the "great mystery" of this show, but I do want them to not let this go unanswered.
I get the feeling she's just the first. However they answer, it won't be violent.

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Well, we now know the dog shooting guy isn't a figment of the chief's imagination. Other people can see him, so he's definitely real.
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Nutballs break into your home and cut up pictures. Do you a/ go to the police b/
Organize some kind of take back our town thing c/ trash their lawn, slash their tires, hell, break some legs or d/ just straight up murder 1 an old lady.

Apparently the correct answer is d, because in leftovers America, unarmed cult members who haven't actually killed anyone can be disappeared by the Feds like jihadists. No due process and no investigation. Nobody is going to leak it to the media and nobody cares. All the would be Snowdens got beamed up already I guess.

Zealot that he is, the reverend actually behaves like a human being. His sister is the only woman on the show who can break a smile. I rather have more of them. The third bottle episode was actually the best because it didn't have much to do with the dumb cult and the people's dumb reaction to them.
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How did the Amy brenneman character know about the whistles?

She was at the hotel with the leader when the chief brought over the whistles.

Didn't the reverend start his eulogy right after they got back to the home?
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How did the Amy brenneman character know about the whistles?

She was at the hotel with the leader when the chief brought over the whistles.

Didn't the reverend start his eulogy right after they got back to the home?

Non they had been home for at least a little while. Enough for her to get instruction on what to do with the whistle.
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We all remember the Dharma Initiative from "Lost," right? Well, now there is this. Anyone care to join??

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During the chief's call to the AFTEC, I find it kind of sinister that the Federal Government is trying to extinguish the cults. We saw it during the attack on the Holy Wayne compound. Also the final scene shows mass burnings of cult member bodies. These cults seem to be a growing problem on a national scale.
Looks like, at least one arm of the government, is using the Schutzstaffel playbook.
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Is the GR going to be like the Dharma Initiative, focus on it for a season or two and then drop it?

The Grantland podcast criticized the emphasis on the GR and also this desire to be an auteur.

Apparently the stoning and burning has some relatively obscure religious antecedents.
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Not sure I would call it obscure as stoning still happens today in certain parts of the world.

Not sure why the DI was brought up as these two groups are not anywhere close to one another. The GR for sure has some deep religious base. Hopefully people can get away from the lost comparisons as these two shows are in totally different ballparks.
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I thought the GR doesn't acknowledge the concept of family so what do they care if one of their own is stoned to death? Of course we found out the answer to that with that little "vacation" from their beliefs, typical of the sort of hypocrisy that's fairly common among most religions.
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Apparently the stoning and burning has some relatively obscure religious antecedents.
I wouldn't really call the stoning reference obscure. Prescribed in the Hebrew bible as the punishment for a number of sins, it's the subject of one of the most famous parables in the New Testament and the way the first Christian martyr died. I think the second is probably more relevant here, as Gladys is, if it was indeed a hate crime, apparently the first GR martyr.

The burning story the reverend told is from the gnostic gospel of Thomas, and ties into Patti's statements to Laurie about doubt being fire that burns you up until you are ash. This then ties in to what we literally saw happen to Gladys at the very end of the episode.

This was a huge, turning point kind of episode for this show, as difficult as it was to watch.
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I gotta agree with good ole Dog Shootin' Dean, I think the GR did the stoning. I can't help but notice when Gladys was getting murdered, the people doing it didn't utter a word. If it was pissed off townies doing this out of anger or hatred, I would expect them to be all worked up and to be hurling words along with those rocks. Waaaay too silent for an angry mob.
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