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CBS’s ‘Extant’ slides to a series low
New drama posts a 1.0 in 18-49s in new timeslot
By Toni Fitzgerald, Media Life Magazine - Aug. 6, 2013

CBS’s new drama “Extant” continues to struggle.

The show fell to a series low in its new 10 p.m. timeslot, where it moved last week after failing to hold the big lead-in audience from “Big Brother” at 9 p.m.

“Extant” averaged a 1.0 adults 18-49 rating last night, according to Nielsen overnights, down a tenth from last week.

It still tied NBC’s “Taxi Brooklyn” for No. 2 in the timeslot in the demo and led the hour in total viewers with 5.91 million.

CBS had the night’s top show with “Big Brother” posting a 2.1 in 18-49s, off 9 percent from last week.

NBC’s “America’s Got Talent” was the night’s No. 2 program with a 2.0, also down 9 percent from last week and tying a series low.

The two reality shows fueled CBS and NBC to a first-place tie for the night.

The two networks each averaged a 1.4 overnight rating and a 5 share in primetime. Univision was third at 1.3/4, Fox fourth at 1.1/4, ABC fifth at 0.8/3, Telemundo sixth at 0.6/2 and CW seventh at 0.4/1.

As a reminder, all ratings are based on live-plus-same-day DVR playback, which includes shows replayed before 3 a.m. the night before. Seven-day DVR data won’t be available for several weeks. Forty-nine percent of Nielsen households have DVRs.

At 8 p.m. CBS started the night in the lead with a 2.1 for “Brother,” while NBC, Fox and Univision all tied for second at 1.1, NBC for a repeat of “Talent,” Fox for “So You Think You Can Dance” and Univision for “Mi Corazon es Tuyo.” ABC was fifth with a 1.0 for repeats of “The Middle” and “The Goldbergs,” CW was sixth with a 0.5 for “Penn & Teller: Fool Us,” even to last week’s premiere, and Telemundo seventh with a 0.4 for “Reina de Corazones.”

NBC took the lead at 9 p.m. with a 2.0 for a new “Talent,” followed by Univision with a 1.4 for “Lo Que La Vida Me Robo.” ABC and Fox tied for third at 1.1, ABC for reruns of “Modern Family” and “The Middle” and Fox for more “Dance.” CBS was fifth with a 1.0 for a repeat of “Criminal Minds,” Telemundo sixth with a 0.5 for “En Otra Piel” and CW seventh with a 0.2 for a repeat of “The 100.”

Univision was first at 10 p.m. with a 1.2 for “Que Pobres Tan Ricos,” with CBS and NBC tied for second at 1.0, CBS for “Extant” and NBC for “Taxi.” Telemundo was fourth with a 0.8 for “El Señor de los Cielos” and ABC fifth with a 0.4 for a repeat of the special “Nashville: On the Record.”

NBC finished first for the night among households with a 4.4 average overnight rating and an 8 share, followed by CBS at 3.6/6, Fox at 2.3/4, ABC at 2.1/4, Univision at 1.7/3, Telemundo at 0.8/1 and CW at 0.7/1.

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You got it! :P Ouch for all shows. It's summer and schools are starting soon?
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I did find it interesting the assistant woman has two fake legs. No wonder she has such an interest in the kid.
I'd been wondering what the deal was with the floating torso in the shower during the intro for the past several episodes, and now they finally get around to showing the episode whence they got that footage. It sure took them long enough.
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I haven't seen it yet, but there will be a little less commercial skipping button pushing as it was 43:16 in length.
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Don't we need to remember the only purpose for programming is to fill the time between commercials?
Something that I've been playing with is the idea that if there were fewer commercials, would we actually watch them. Its only when a 60 minute show has 20 minutes of commercials do I really care about skipping forward.

The result of packing so many commercials into this or any show is fewer of them get watched.

I do think that some day the advertisers will either find a way to have our skip forwards no longer work or put their ads on as overlays to actual content.
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Decent episode tonight/last night. The next few week's will be double episodes.

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Fox tried that during the first season of Fringe (and season 2 of Dollhouse, I think it was). It didn't work. Shows increased in length to 50+ minutes to match the length of many cable shows, but the increased runtime didn't raise viewership to offset the reduced number and length of the commercials. Fox cancelled the trial after only one season (but that's why a few seasons of some Fox shows have extra long episodes, if you have them on home video).
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I do think that some day the advertisers will either find a way to have our skip forwards no longer work.....
Cable companies already do that with On Demand content.
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I do think that some day the advertisers will either find a way to have our skip forwards no longer work or put their ads on as overlays to actual content.
I have noticed that some movie trailers have a spot on the screen that show the actual name of the movie for the duration of the trailer, so even while FF past the trailer, you can read the title of the movie. (That's far better than the other, too common extreme of having half a second at the end of the trailer to show the movie title.)

It wouldn't surprise me if more advertisers likewise have the name, picture, or an icon of the product in one spot for the duration of the commercial.

I have used Comcast's Video On Demand a couple of times and you cannot do any repositioning in it, so you are stuck watching the commercials or leaving the TV and potentially lose a bit of content if you mistime when to come back.

For some web sites like weather.com, you may be able to reposition during a video but not during the commercials.
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I have always believed that TiVo had the simplest and most elegant solution to avoiding commercials. TiVo calls its skip ahead and skip back buttons "trickplay." Each press of the forward trickplay button instantly moves 30 seconds ahead in the recording. Each press of the reverse button instantly backs up 8 seconds. The combination makes it very fast and easy to avoid commercials and not waste much time while doing it.

FIOS is similar. You can decide how far you want a button push to jump, 30 seconds, 1 min, etc.
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Cable companies already do that with On Demand content.

They tried to get that implemented before to disable the fast forwarding through commercials. LUCKILY, someone had enough sense to not let it get approved. That doesn't mean they aren't still trying to get it implemented though.

Yeah, some of the On Demand shows won't allow you to fast forward. Thankfully, they aren't all like that, only specific shows.
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They tried to get that implemented before to disable the fast forwarding through commercials. LUCKILY, someone had enough sense to not let it get approved. That doesn't mean they aren't still trying to get it implemented though.

Yeah, some of the On Demand shows won't allow you to fast forward. Thankfully, they aren't all like that, only specific shows.
I noticed on Time Warner Cable's DVR that skips and FFs do not work on newer episodes, but older ones (e.g., MythBusters from years ago) isn't restricted.

Is there a list of shows that does and doesn't do it?

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I noticed on Time Warner Cable's DVR that skips and FFs do not work on newer episodes, but older ones (e.g., MythBusters from years ago) isn't restricted.

Is there a list of shows that does and doesn't do it?
Do you happen to know if switching the Time Warner DVR for a TIVO, gives you back that skip forward functionality?
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Do you happen to know if switching the Time Warner DVR for a TIVO, gives you back that skip forward functionality?
I know TIVO can't do OnDemand stuff.
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I know TIVO can't do OnDemand stuff.
The most recent models of TiVo can do Comcast OnDemand, and in fact will have HD versions of shows that Comcast does not carry the HD channel itself, it's how I've watched several shows that air on Sundance.
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One thing puzzled me about this episode: why did Molly "betray" the other astronaut to Sam? I'm pretty sure they weren't actually meeting at the library, so after she learned that Sam was protecting her own family over her friendship with Molly, did Molly decide to do the same and throw Sam under the bus by passing her false information to hopefully save the astronaut by diverting the agents searching for him? If so, I guess it didn't work, so now Sam's brother is toast, as Sparks will know where the false information came from.
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OK so why is CBS still advertising this as the #1 summer show when they're burning off the last eps over the next couple of weeks?
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One thing puzzled me about this episode: why did Molly "betray" the other astronaut to Sam? I'm pretty sure they weren't actually meeting at the library, so after she learned that Sam was protecting her own family over her friendship with Molly, did Molly decide to do the same and throw Sam under the bus by passing her false information to hopefully save the astronaut by diverting the agents searching for him? If so, I guess it didn't work, so now Sam's brother is toast, as Sparks will know where the false information came from.
Yes. Molly was banking on Sam passing on the bogus information to protect the other guy.
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Yes. Molly was banking on Sam passing on the bogus information to protect the other guy.
I guess I am bucking the trend - I really like this show. Sure it has some "tried and tired" trends - but all in all I like this show.

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Nah, you're just bucking the vocalized trend. Obviously the complainers like it too (or at least they like it better than sitting quietly and thinking ). Otherwise they wouldn't be watching it so intently as to know what to complain about!

As for the advertising claiming it's #1 , well, that's just advertising. How else would they persuade anyone to watch it? After all,it is #1 CBS show in that time slot on CBS.

Of course, since it really isn't an episodic show, it must be really difficult for someone who hasn't been watching it to understand what's going on.

FWIW, I enjoy it too.
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I think the show is ok, could have been better since it's just a mishmash of a lot of tired sci-fi tropes. I hope we'll get some sort of wrap-up beyond the usual aliens taking over the world because theirs went to crap, crap.

And hey, the fact that it's sci-fi on a mainstream network and way better than Under the Dumb has to count for something.
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Krietzer said something about it being a distress call. I think that will be significant in terms of the intentions of the 'alien'
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We probably won't see it now, but I'd bet that the daughter would show up again as an alien or something in the second season, since she was kind enough to explain that she was a) pregnant and b) taking an escape pod for herself.
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The most recent models of TiVo can do Comcast OnDemand, and in fact will have HD versions of shows that Comcast does not carry the HD channel itself, it's how I've watched several shows that air on Sundance.
It goes further. My Comcast region does not even carry WGN America (SD or HD) yet does offer Manhattan in HD OnDemand. Sundance SD is available but, like you, I prefer watching the next day HD OnDemand version. Also, since switching to the Xfinity X1 cable box I have been able to utilize the 30-second skip on OnDemand content. A welcome feature.
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It goes further. My Comcast region does not even carry WGN America (SD or HD) yet does offer Manhattan in HD OnDemand. Sundance SD is available but, like you, I prefer watching the next day HD OnDemand version. Also, since switching to the Xfinity X1 cable box I have been able to utilize the 30-second skip on OnDemand content. A welcome feature.
No kidding! I wasn't aware that the X1 had that skipping ability, seems odd Comcast would allow that though, curious.
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No kidding! I wasn't aware that the X1 had that skipping ability, seems odd Comcast would allow that though, curious.
It works on any shows like ABC's recent episodes? :/
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OK so why is CBS still advertising this as the #1 summer show when they're burning off the last eps over the next couple of weeks?
You missed the fine print. It's "#1 new show of the summer."
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