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Doctor Who: Season 8 on BBC America

Doctor Who: Season 8, starts this Saturday, August 23, 2014.

According to the BBC America web site, schedule page:

8pm-8:15pmDoctor Who: Live Preshow
8:15pm-10pmDoctor Who: Season 8 Episode 1 "Deep Breath"

Since in the past I didn't have BBC America available (but I do now), I am streaming Season 7 from Netflix to get caught up.

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The BBC published the list of episodes for Series 8, with the associated writers and directors. My first impression was too much Moffat. It would benefit from a lot more Gatiss.
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Don't know about the US, but in the UK, after the success of "The Day of the Doctor" in cinemas, "Deep Breath" - the first episode of season 8 - is being shown in 450 cinemas in the UK as well as on BBC One on Saturday.
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Surprisingly good, albeit with a major lull at the 40 minute mark. Funny without being childish and missing dumbass ideas like human eyestalks. Production values, effects and cinematography improved too. I wonder if they can keep it up beyond this first episode.

When Capaldi finally got his brain together I enjoyed his performance too. Full of subtlety and pathos and the ambiguity was well done. The man can act, so maybe he can lift any horrible scripts that come along.

Didn't care for the tag at the end. Undermined the climax and hinted at another potentially messy arc.


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I actually liked it quite a bit. I am a LONG time fan, and this is one show that the whole family watches. It is an 'event' for us.

I was really worried that my kids wouldn't like Capaldi and that he was going to be stiff - not the case at all and all is good!

If anything - they spent TOO much time talking about how old his new body is.

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I've known about Dr Who for a long time, but never watched any shows until maybe a year or two back when I felt the urge to watch what was available on Netflix and Amazon prime. I could only get into the newer shows, starting with Eccleston.

I checked out one of the old B&W shows and couldn't get into it. I doubt I would have any connection to anything in between then and the Eccleston shows either so I haven't tried any others.


I had apprehensions about the new actor, but hopefully what xnappo says will be the same for me. Haven't watched the new show yet.

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I checked out one of the old B&W shows and couldn't get into it. I doubt I would have any connection to anything in between then and the Eccleston shows either so I haven't tried any others.
Forget the B&W. Ignore all the old doctors apart from Tom Baker. They may have their merits but there's a reason he had a cameo last season. He's the template for all the eccentric, funny, slightly insane and unpredictable doctors since then. In reality he's larger than life too.

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Second VisionOn's suggestion. The Fourth Doctor.
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Problem is finding these particular things.

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The old ones still bring back a lot of memories for me. Running home to catch the Hartnell episodes. Later on watching Baker etc after a night of bar hopping.
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The Classic Doctor Who episodes are being shown on RTV now, if you have an RTV affiliate in your area. They just started a few weeks ago, so they are still in the Hartnell episodes that are available. Many of the Hartnell and Troughton episodes are lost though, as the BBC began wiping and reusing video tapes in the 70's.
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Forget the B&W. Ignore all the old doctors apart from Tom Baker. They may have their merits but there's a reason he had a cameo last season. He's the template for all the eccentric, funny, slightly insane and unpredictable doctors since then. In reality he's larger than life too.

http://www.nerdist.com/2010/10/docto...fourth-doctor/
Tom Baker was the reason I became a fan of the show. Started watching it weekly after that first Saturday many years ago.
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Production values, effects and cinematography improved too.
Interesting. Had the complete opposite reaction about this. Read several tweets from VFX people at about 2 minutes into the show all expressing variations of 'Oh dear...' Became pretty obvious to me that they are depending more on the BBC Wales in-house VFX team than the folks at Milk who've been doing most of the effects for the series.

As for cinematography, I have to admit I preferred the work of last week's Emmy winner Neville Kidd. He won for Sherlock, but was also the cinematographer on the Doctor Who episodes Angels Take Manhattan, The Name of the Doctor, The Day of the Doctor, and others. He's been DP'ing Outlander, and next he's moving on to the Childhood's End mini series for Syfy.

Production design continues to be done by the brilliant Michael Pickwoad, and looked like it.

Oh, I should add, Capaldi was brilliant. I had my doubts, because I'm not that familiar with his work, but I'm looking forward to seeing more.

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Interesting.



Oh, I should add, Capaldi was brilliant. I had my doubts, because I'm not that familiar with his work, but I'm looking forward to seeing more.

I agree. I thought it was amazing how quickly he made the character his own.
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Nah, I don't like the new Doctor/Actor.. , but I can't wait for the next regen.. as long as Jenna Coleman is in, I'm in..

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If they go with a woman, my vote is actually Shirley Manson.

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Nah, I don't like the new Doctor/Actor.. , but I can't wait for the next regen.. as long as Jenna Coleman is in, I'm in..
Rumors are that Jenna is supposedly leaving at the end of the season in the Christmas episode

http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbi...ed-over-future

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So will I if that happens..

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Wait until VisionOn sees that one. I thought she was pretty good in the Sarah Connor Chronicles.
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Hey, any guesses about who "Missy" is? I have two theories:

Spoiler!
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Wait until VisionOn sees that one. I thought she was pretty good in the Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Yeah she was so impressive playing a robot she went on to a stellar new career in acting!


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Hey, any guesses about who "Missy" is? I have two theories:

Spoiler!
Why have spoilers for theories? Especially those based on evidence already shown?

Spoiler!


Now that might be a spoiler to newer viewers, but at this point does it matter? It's still based on old events.


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Hey! You know who would be good for that roll?

:P :P
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Hey! You know who would be good for that roll?

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It's possible! How many stunt casting favors do you think she can call in? Or did she use her only one to get the Terminator gig?


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Why have spoilers for theories? Especially those based on evidence already shown?
Well, I was being sensitive to people who might not have got around to watching their recording of the show yet. Didn't want to give too much away about the end.
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I've known about Dr Who for a long time, but never watched any shows until maybe a year or two back when I felt the urge to watch what was available on Netflix and Amazon prime. I could only get into the newer shows, starting with Eccleston.

I checked out one of the old B&W shows and couldn't get into it. I doubt I would have any connection to anything in between then and the Eccleston shows either so I haven't tried any others.


I had apprehensions about the new actor, but hopefully what xnappo says will be the same for me. Haven't watched the new show yet.
I didn't get onto Doctor Who until the (brief) run of the Ninth Doctor, Christopher Eccleston. Then David Tennant came onboard as the Tenth Doctor and the rest is history. I have not felt particularly deprived by having missed the earlier doctors. I think Peter Capaldi is off to a good start and I have high hopes for his tenure as the doctor.
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I didn't get onto Doctor Who until the (brief) run of the Ninth Doctor, Christopher Eccleston. Then David Tennant came onboard as the Tenth Doctor and the rest is history. I have not felt particularly deprived by having missed the earlier doctors. I think Peter Capaldi is off to a good start and I have high hopes for his tenure as the doctor.

I think Moffat made an earnest attempt to connect the reboot to the original series last season. Unfortunately, it didn't always work, but I do respect him for trying. He also seemed unsure of the tone he wanted, ending up somewhere between a children's show like the original and the more adult reboot. That didn't always work either. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but he seems to have come to terms with that conflict. This episode he seemed more sure of himself and more comfortable with what he wants to do. And I gotta say it, to me at least Capaldi is a lot better actor than Smith.

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The first time I saw a Doctor Who episode was in the late '60s or '70s. Not knowing what a TARDIS was I bailed shortly after they entered that cheesy box that was bigger on the inside. Plus the plumber's helper on the Dialects did not add to kind of authentic science fiction I was expecting.

With the reboot I've enthusiastically watched every episode, including the Torchwood spin-off.
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He also seemed unsure of the tone he wanted, ending up somewhere between a children's show like the original and the more adult reboot
Eh? The original was never aimed directly at children. Under RTD the reboot was more of a kid's show than it ever was. Stupid aliens like the adipose and slitheen combined with fart jokes and slapstick gags. That never happened before the reboot. If it was funny in the original it was character-based. RTD "Lucasified" the show.

I agree with your comment about Capaldi however. He is definitely a better actor than Matt Smith, but then again he's had decades of experience.


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