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Show Me A Hero on HBO

Looks like a mini series for the next 3 weeks.

Produced by David Simon, of The Wire and Treme.

Getting good reviews. Appears to involve race and class issues -- it wouldn't be a David Simon production otherwise.
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I noticed this on Sunday!

I like that David Simon is producing it, but don't think this is my type of show.
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It appears to be 6 episodes, 2 each over the next 3 weeks.

With Humans finishing this Sunday, there will be a gap.

Then on 9/13 after this, they're premiering Doll & Em and Project Greenlight.

Leftovers in October.

Hmm, it might be a pretty slow time for HBO in the fall, unless this and one of the other shows surprises.
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I've setup a season pass for Show Me a Hero.. Don't quite know what to expect though. After David Simon split from Ed Burns and made the underwhelming Treme, I lost a lot of confidence in his work. Maybe Simon learned something from his Treme experience and will return to his The Wire form with his new series. I hope so.
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I'm still on sunny summer time, so I'm not really in the mood to watch what will probably be a grim and depressing story of social collapse and corruption.

That's dark nights of Winter viewing.


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I'm still on sunny summer time, so I'm not really in the mood to watch what will probably be a grim and depressing story of social collapse and corruption.

That's dark nights of Winter viewing.
Yep, Simon isn't the guy I would expect to give us something sunny and uplifting.
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I'm still on sunny summer time, so I'm not really in the mood to watch what will probably be a grim and depressing story of social collapse and corruption.

That's dark nights of Winter viewing.
Most definitely.
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Just read Andy Greenwald's Grantland review of Show Me a Hero. He loved the miniseries and thanks to Greenwald's enthusiasm for it, I have high hopes that Simon will give us something extra this time around. I have come to think highly of Greenwald's taste and judgment. Just hope that he got it right again. Whether he did or not he was right this time, his piece is as usual extremely well written. Read it and I think you'll agree.
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I'm surprised that more David Simon fans haven't jumped on this one. A fantastic mini-series, pure Simon in every respect.
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I dunno, I tried watching the first episode and gave up after a half-hour; I (and my wife) had a hard time trying to figure out why I should care about any of the characters.
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I was in the same room at times while all of it was watched, not so much by me,

usually there is some discussion during the show and some about what happened but in the end, not a word . . . ., TWOT.

Makes me think that the Bats flying to Antarctica in ZOO wasn't so unreasonable . . . a show also on the cusp of being a total POS with an unsustainable premise/resolution

but the guys who pitch this stuff , how about a show about how they do THAT! Sheer MARKETING GENIUS.

or just really low expectations . . .

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I dunno, I tried watching the first episode and gave up after a half-hour; I (and my wife) had a hard time trying to figure out why I should care about any of the characters.
Yeah, I watched the first episode. Because I knew the whole story, I decided the show would be too much of a downer for me to stomach so I cancelled my TiVo One Pass before Episode 2 ran.
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I've watched parts 1-4, and have enjoyed it. Still, it's very subtle. Beyond some salty language, it doesn't have any of the things current viewers jump at: violence, sex, action.

However, watching two parts back-to-back strains my patience. I think I'll break up parts 5 and 6 into two separate evenings.

The entire cast is exceptional, except Alfred Molina "twirls his moustache" a little too hard. The director should have dialed back his performance to make him more human instead of a 2-dimensional villain.
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I'm surprised that more David Simon fans haven't jumped on this one. A fantastic mini-series, pure Simon in every respect.
I've got it all recorded and am going to binge watch it. I love Simon's stuff and will savor this show.

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I thought it was very well done. I wasn't familiar with the story so I did not expect the ending.
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Liked it better than Treme.
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Liked it better than Treme.
That's faint praise but probably accurate. I did manage to watch the first two hours of Show Me a Hero before giving up but never worked up enough enthusiasm for Treme to watch a minute of it.
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That's faint praise but probably accurate. I did manage to watch the first two hours of Show Me a Hero before giving up but never worked up enough enthusiasm for Treme to watch a minute of it.
If you didn't see any of it then why are you so sure it was so "underwhelming" you "lost confidence in his work"...?

I loved 'Treme'. It was terrific. But it was a very different show than 'The Wire'. Simon is no one-trick-pony. He is, however, extremely smart and has the sort of social conscious that is all too rare these days. His essays are brilliant.

It was filmed on location in New Orleans, the great American city that the authorities let drown during Katrina. It told the story of how the New Orleans we never see -- the "authentic" one where many of the musicians live -- was affected by the various parties that came to its "rescue" in the years following. The plot sort of meandered around, but that was entirely appropriate for the subject matter. New Orleans is a meandering kind of town. You sort of had to be there (watching it as it aired).

And then there was the music. Oh, the music! That was sublime. Those jazz band scenes were all filmed and recorded in those actual hole-in-the-wall clubs, rather than being re-mixed in the studio as is common. The music alone makes a BD purchase of this series a must-have for me (in spite of how beastly expensive HBO box-sets are). Then there were the incredible visuals of the Mardi-Gras parades, the costumes, the scenery.

It was one of those wonderful but overlooked shows that not enough people tried on for size, perhaps being uninterested in the subject matter, the city, or its people.

Their loss.
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^^^ I am resistant to the point of view that Katrina and its aftermath were the fault of any particular person or group. It was a Perfect Storm, literally, and it seems to me that that there was plenty of blame to go around. Anyway, it was a dreary episode in American history and I am satisfied with my decision not to have anything to do with seeing it dramatized.
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Oh, it wasn't the storm that was really at fault. Freak weather events happen, and are going to continue to happen with greater frequency. It was what happened before and after the storm where it becomes fairly obvious where blame needs to be assigned. As to not want to be reminded of it, I can only offer that timeless quote: Those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it. Sometimes we're very slow learners.

Besides the story, music, and visuals, 'Treme' was a pretty good history lesson as well.
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I liked Treme but liked SMAH more and The Wired a lot more.

Liked Homicide more than Treme and SMAH.
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I finally watched Part 6 last night and was glad of the experience. In a subtle way, it was very moving and made the rest of the series more meaningful.

This is what I found especially poignant about it:

Spoiler!
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I finally watched Part 6 last night and was glad of the experience. In a subtle way, it was very moving and made the rest of the series more meaningful.

This is what I found especially poignant about it:

Spoiler!
I agree with you. Another great show from Simon.

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