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Billions (Showtime)




The new SHOWTIME drama series BILLIONS will premiere Sunday, January 17th at 10 p.m. ET/PT on-air, On Demand and over the internet. Starring Oscar® nominee and Emmy® and Golden Globe® winner Paul Giamatti (John Adams) and Emmy and Golden Globe winner Damian Lewis (Homeland), BILLIONS is a 21st-century examination of the profit and peril of chasing the American dream. BILLIONS is written and executive produced by Brian Koppelman and David Levien (Ocean's Thirteen, Rounders), and Andrew Ross Sorkin (Too Big To Fail).

BILLIONS is a bold, contemporary drama that melds the worlds of ultra-wealth, influence and corruption as personified in two highly ambitious opposing figures: hard-charging, blue-blooded, politically connected U.S. Attorney Chuck Rhoades (Giamatti) and brilliant, calculating, blue-collar billionaire hedge fund king, Bobby "Axe" Axelrod (Lewis). Set amongst the Machiavellian machinations of New York City power politics and finance, BILLIONS weaves a complex, intricate narrative featuring a high-stakes game of predator-versus-prey. Maggie Siff, Malin Akerman, Toby Leonard Moore, David Costabile and Condola Rashad also star. The pilot was directed by acclaimed director Neil Burger (The Illusionist, Divergent), who also serves as an executive producer.

Starting January 1, the first episode will be available free online for non-subscribers of Showtime on a variety of platforms.

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Showtime promoted this so heavily during Homeland and The Affair that I feel like I've already seen most of it.Will watch at least the first episode. Like Giamatti.
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I'm sold. Really enjoyed the first episode. Great performances from, Giamatti, Lewis, and Maggie Siff.
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Watched Episode 1 on Sho OD yesterday, quite a first scene. Capt. Winters in the lead, Paul Giamatti, Maggie Siff, and Malin Ackerman, a must see. I'm in...
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"Ray Donovan" it isn't but maybe it'll get better. The writers need to learn a bit more about meditation though. You don't just jump out of it.
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Hope they'll slow down after the pilot; not just navel contemplations. Guess they needed a relentless plot to sell it. But competitive drilling of the kids during meals seems a bit much. Enjoyed the spy-like 'black-bag' basement scene. Looks like there's a role for actress Diane Lane, too. She has a big collection, Lane wrote somewhere, of high-length leather boots. ;-) -- John
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I loved the pilot episode. It's hard to go wrong with Paul Giamatti, Damian Lewis, and Maggie Siff. Toby Leonard Moore, as U.S. Attorney Chuck Rhoades' ace assistant, impressed me too. I became a Moore fan as a result of his terrific performances as Wilson Fisk's fixer in chief on Daredevil.

If the quality demonstrated by the pilot holds up, Billions is going to be a lot of fun.
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I loved the pilot episode. It's hard to go wrong with Paul Giamatti, Damian Lewis, and Maggie Siff. Toby Leonard Moore, as Bobby Axelrod's ace assistant, impressed me too. I became a Moore fan as a result of his terrific performances as Wilson Fisk's fixer in chief on Daredevil.

If the quality demonstrated by the pilot holds up, Billions is going to be a lot of fun.
I agree, this looks like a keeper.

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I loved the pilot episode. It's hard to go wrong with Paul Giamatti, Damian Lewis, and Maggie Siff. Toby Leonard Moore, as U.S. Attorney Chuck Rhoades' ace assistant, impressed me too. I became a Moore fan as a result of his terrific performances as Wilson Fisk's fixer in chief on Daredevil.

If the quality demonstrated by the pilot holds up, Billions is going to be a lot of fun.
I'm a bit surprised you liked it. This is like David Mamet lite. Everything is overplayed, overacted and not very smart. This is the type of screenplay that makes me want to pull my hair out. So predictable and so smug.

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Watched the first episode. While I thought the cast was outstanding, and that opening scene an eye opener, not sure I found it all that interesting. Not sure how much drama there can be in a show about a guy investing in stocks but will stick it out for a few more to see because I sure do like Paul G.

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That opening scene with Giamati was a bit much to start off a show. I wouldn't call that scene eye candy, seeing the pudgy bastard bound on the floor and they got the dynamic all wrong.
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On Fios one can watch the 2nd episode OD. Liked it better than the pilot. Was particularly impressed with the fast pace of the episode.
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Was looking forward to this one but the pedigree of the show runners is meh.

Though maybe Sorkin is using some real stories he learned about hedge funders.

It's okay, I guess it's going to get pulpish, with Axe and the Giamatti character having confrontations which would never happen in real life. And then you have Axe using all kinds of covert methods, kind of like spy craft, to contact his govt. mole?

But an insider trading prosecution would be pretty boring to portray, unless the guy was one of these "party CEOs" who tried to re-create Caligulan orgies with his money -- wait, better not give the show runners ideas.


Are they going to stretch out a prosecution over several seasons? Once the trial is over, the show is over? Or does Axe get convicted (and thus preserve Chuck Rhodes' perfect record) but there's a long appeal during which he's out on bail, up to more shenanigans? Or maybe he goes to white collar prison but runs his empire, business as usual?

Or maybe Rhodes runs for office, becomes mayor of NYC or governor of NY, then unleashes the attorney general on Axelrod?


Anyways, good actors, not sure about good writing yet so it helps justify the Showtime subscription. But you know what, a year ago they were running House of Lies (meh) and Episodes! I'd rather see the new season of Episodes now than this.
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I'm a bit surprised you liked it. This is like David Mamet lite. Everything is overplayed, overacted and not very smart. This is the type of screenplay that makes me want to pull my hair out. So predictable and so smug.
I agree that some of the pilot episode was predictable. For example, the suicide of the financial crimes convict after its heavy foreshadowing provided by his breakdown in the U.S. Attorney's office was, I admit, a bit over the top. Other than that, though, I loved the show.

There is a lot of sassy dialog, which along with the impeccable talent of its ensemble cast, made for great entertainment, to my mind at least. The Maggie Siff character is fascinating. Not only is she the personal psychiatrist for a superrich Wall Street guy, she is the wife of and personal dominatrix for the U.S. Attorney. The lady provides a lot of personal service.
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On Fios one can watch the 2nd episode OD. Liked it better than the pilot. Was particularly impressed with the fast pace of the episode.
It was on Showtime Hulu too. Was it not on the cable network? I do agree it was a "richer" episode (pun intended).
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It was on Showtime Hulu too. Was it not on the cable network? I do agree it was a "richer" episode (pun intended).
Yeah, I too watched Episode 2, on Showtime Anytime. I agree that it was even better than Episode 1. Because it hasn't played on the network yet, I will not comment on the plot until after it airs there next Sunday.
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Last chance or I'm closing the thread.

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Last chance or I'm closing the thread. Shame since it's sure to be a talked-about show.

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Last chance or I'm closing the thread. Shame since it's sure to be a talked-about show.
Yeah, I hope that other posters will take your warning to heart and avoid using blue language in the future. Billions is fun enough that there should be no reason to resort to profanity in one's posts. I might suggest, though, that a fairer solution to non violating posters might be to, rather than closing the thread, ban violators from the thread so that the rest of us could still discuss the show.
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Wow when did the language restrictions come into play?
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If it continues, I'm removing offenders from the thread as suggested. I'm counting on the others to report it so I can remove it quickly.

If you have any questions about this, PM me. Don't do it here. We have a show to discuss.

To that end, I'm going to start a drinking game based on the number of times Damian Lewis's accent seeps in.
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To that end, I'm going to start a drinking game based on the number of times Damian Lewis's accent seeps in.
No kidding! I may be obtuse but I have always thought that Damien Lewis's American accent was flawless, in a class with Hugh Laurie's. According to the commentary on the Band of Brothers DVD, none of his castmates had any idea that he wasn't an American until they were told. What made it more amazing was that Lewis and the rest of the cast went through a "bootcamp" before the actual filming began.
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The first episode didn't do a lot for me. Very self-important, with couple of showboat actors yelling at each other a lot.

Shrug.

I haven't watched the second episode yet but will give it that much to see if it clicks with me or not.

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The first episode didn't do a lot for me. Very self-important, with couple of showboat actors yelling at each other a lot.

Shrug.

I haven't watched the second episode yet but will give it that much to see if it clicks with me or not.
I agree that the pilot was a bit "actorish" but with actors like Giamatti and Lewis, I can't say I minded.
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No kidding! I may be obtuse but I have always thought that Damien Lewis's American accent was flawless, in a class with Hugh Laurie's. According to the commentary on the Band of Brothers DVD, none of his castmates had any idea that he wasn't an American until they were told. What made it more amazing was that Lewis and the rest of the cast went through a "bootcamp" before the actual filming began.
Second all this. I was shocked to hear his accent creeping in.

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Really liked the pilot episode. Kept me very interested throughout and am very much looking forward to watching episode two!

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Top 1% is called the predatory class. Wall street has captured your life and owns you, and all started back in the 80's. Now if Bobby comes out on top then this is reality if he loses it's pure Hollywood. Waiting to see how this unfolds.

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Though maybe Sorkin is using some real stories he learned about hedge funders.
Watched the opening scene and turned it off, will try again. Guess Phil Falcone and his x-stripper wife, renown for their Halloween parties, provided Sorkin much of the storyline.

Couldn't find it, but recall a photo of her in a dominatrix outfit.

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Edit: first ep wasn't groundbreaking, but acting, sets, and production are very good. Not an accurate portrayal without tank of piranhas in the office lobby.

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