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Fantastic show! The entire 3 1/2 hour production had perfect DD5.1 audio and great video, and the audio engineers who did the mix did a wonderful job for us. Great job, CBS!

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For the most part, I forgot I was watching TV. The video and sound were fantastic. There were however some issues with the production.

1. Minor lyp syc issues from time to time.
2. Some scenes seemed a little out of focus
3. The garaphics at one point did to correspond to the narrative
4. Many gaffs by the MCs eg Bruce Springstreet. There were a lot of them. Must have been something in the air.

For the most part,it was the best presented by a Major network.

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For the most part, I forgot I was watching TV. The video and sound were fantastic. There were however some issues with the production.

1. Minor lyp syc issues from time to time.
2. Some scenes seemed a little out of focus
3. The garaphics at one point did to correspond to the narrative
4. Many gaffs by the MCs eg Bruce Springstreet. There were a lot of them. Must have been something in the air.

For the most part,it was the best presented by a Major network.

Thanks CBS and Samsung!

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Fabulous production.

My comments:

Sorry I missed S+G.

The detail on Bruce's face was incredible. It looked like he had some razor burn on the left side of his chin.

The N'sync BG's presentation moved them up a notch on my chart.

A little lack of sensitivity with some of the pyrotechnics.

Avril is not very impressive live. She'll be gone in a year if she doesn't work on her act.

The Philharmonic was great. The no-name band that played with them couldn't carry a tune.

The sweat on performers as they do their stuff becomes really obvious with HD, unobservable with SD. There must be some future in this for really good make up artists.
I thought Bruce was going to pop a vein in his neck.

N'Sync was OK, but were nowhere near the level of the brothers Gibb.

Avril did her worst song for some reason. I guess it appeals to her main demographic, but not to the rest of us. I've seen here live on a couple of late night shows where she did some of her better material and she is actually very good. I think she has the talent to stick around if she wants to.

Cold Play sucked. :rolleyes:

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Chiming in a bit late but have to give great big Kudos to CBS (and WJZ) - I watched the whole show for the first time in 10 years. What a pleasure. Great performances shown with great picture and sound.CBS once again shows how to do HDTV right. I really felt like I got a better show than the live audience. We did a few comparisons to the SD broadcast and not only was the resolution higher (naturally) but the colors were breathtaking on the HD broadcast compared to the SD.

Norah's getting some of my money this week too. Glad to see Blue Note make some bucks off this - let's them put more Jazz on Disc which is always a good thing!
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Especially at 9.99 this week at Best Buy.
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but think about for a moment. if the white levels were too bright, would you give them a break?

assuming the sound mixer was in an sound isolated booth/room and they had sound monitors in there, wouldnt they be listening?

and wouldnt a sound check pick this up?
My point is this was a first for live 5.1 mixing music. White levels have been done many many times before.

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My first HD experience on my new plasma.

Jaw wide open throught entire show. Minor annoyance was occasional audio droput, but I'm chalking that up to WBBM.


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Bob,
Most everyone who saw the Grammies in HD (and for some DD5.1) were overjoyed at the quality of the image, sound and production that was obviously geared for HD.

I want to write CBS to thank them & encourage more outstanding live HD broadcasts.

Please let me know the best way to do this - I want my grateful "THANK YOU" to have the most impact. :D

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I'm sorry I missed seeing this in HD and 5.1, but I had to leave Chicago and travel to Kansas City to be with my Mom. She passed away Saturday night.
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It's all been said before in this thread, but I must add my two cents that the parts of the show I watched were absolutely astounding. I haven't watched an awards show in years and really don't have interest in them, but the few times I channel surfed over to the Grammy's, I was blown away by the picture and sound quality---especially the sound in DD5.1. I couldn't leave until a commercial appeared.

Much thanks to CBS, Bob Ross of CBS (for promoting HD and DD5.1 over the last few years) and local affiliates WJZ-DT and WUSA-DT. Both were doing the DD5.1. CBS has shown us the future of television once again.

It'll be interesting to compare the Oscar's to this presentation. I don't see how ABC can top this.
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Wow! What a great performance by Nelly.
I thought Nelly sounded to muffled, because he holds his hand right over the top of the microphone. You could hear Kelly fine during her lyrics, but then you had to strain to hear Nelly.

I was also disappointed that the Grammies let Nelly use pyrotechnics during his performance in the light of the nightclub tragedy in my neighboring state, Rhode Island, that killed 97 people so far. :confused:

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Bob,
Let me add my thanks for CBS showing us "the future of live television" last night!

Keep up the great work!

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I noticed that too! Having seen Bruce several times in concert (most recently in Charlotte, NC in December) I do not think that was for him as there is no way he needs a TelePrompter. I think that is the TelePrompter that the presenters were reading off of.

10 days from today, and I will be at the Bruce concert in Rhode Island!:D

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Ack! Can someone help me? I'm a GIANT Norah Jones fan. I set my Tivo to grab the show but it didn't! I'm looking for a copy of the show in the best possible quality. I'm willing to pay for it... can someone help me out? Please?

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We loved the "woo-hoo's" that we could hear after Bruce was done singing.
I could be wrojng, but I believe that was everyone yelling "BRUUUUUCCCCCCEEEEE!"

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I could be wrojng, but I believe that was everyone yelling "BRUUUUUCCCCCCEEEEE!"
They were definitely yelling, "Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce" but we could hear one guy on the right surround letting out a Woooooo-Hooo. It was great.

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Ditto. Easily the best picture and sound I've ever experienced in my home. We had one local glitch in Boston: coming out of commercial, they forgot to switch and we ended up with the standard def picture and sound for about two minutes - it was unbearable!

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This was a magnificent dispaly of how good HD can be.
If this is the future, let it come...let it come.

Thanks CBS,
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Sound from KYW - Philly got better for awhile but never did quite sync up. Verified with some people from work that they saw/heard the problem too. Worse in the beginning but still there.
Too bad because this was a visually stunning show.

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Well I am sure I am repeating everyone here, but DAMN, that was one of the best HDTV experiences I have had yet. My wife and I generally do not watch award shows, but this changes everything. How can anyone not want HDTV when they see something like last nights Grammys. The DD 5.1 was amazing in Baltimore and the picture was outstanding. The Grammys beat the Superbowl hands down. I hope ABC learns some lessons for the Academy Awards now.


WOW WOW WOW

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Kudo's To CBS, the Grammys was awesome.
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Great picture and 5.1 sound from northern NJ. Had some dropouts initially but after fiddling with my bowtie antenna the signal stabilized. The Clash tribute was tremendous. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I enjoyed the Coldplay performance. I love their 2 CDs so I'm biased. Thanks CBS and Bob. Great job.

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Between the Grammy's and the Tyson fight Sat, I'm feeling damn proud of my investment in this equipment. All the comments about the sound makes me mad that my local affilate didn't get their 5.1 up and running on time.

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Here in San Diego I got the KCBS OTA feed and the picture and sound was stunning!! During the Springsteen song I got in a little bit of harmless trouble with my neighbors as they came over and asked me if I had a concert going on :D Even though my sub got an extra workout the 5.1 sound and PQ was outstanding. Great job CBS!!!
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I would like to congrat CBS for a great broadcast. Grammy truly showed what a difference HDTV can make in such a great live venue.

However, I do have one little complaint. Here in Seattle, we did not get DD (at least I didn't get it), and the music sounded muted. The voice usually sounded excellent and came through crystal clear, but the instrumentals were barely there.

Did anybody else have this experience?
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I am surprised that CBS did not have a Dolby Digital 5.1 Logo or any mention of it being their Premeir DD 5.1 broadcast last night. They did have the standard "sponsored by ..." logo. But no mention of DD 5.1

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I only received 2.0 Here from WFSB in Hartford using and OTA antenna. Great Pic but Lo Fi. Was WFSB sending out the 5.1 Mix?
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The PQ was amazing. Sound is awesome too. Even though I got the station only intermittenly. High Def rules
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