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The Night Of- HBO original series

Co-created by writer/director Steve Zaillian (Schindler's List, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) and author Richard Price (Clockers, Lush Life), and based on the British drama Criminal Justice, The Night Of is a classic slow-burn murder mystery which is getting excellent reviews...some are comparing it to Season 1 of True Detective and even The Wire...the plot follows Nasir "Naz" Khan (Riz Ahmed), a Muslim college student who lives with his parents in Jackson Heights, Queens...on the fateful night, he takes his father's cab without permission in order to attend a party, gets lost, and reluctantly ends up with a female passenger named Andrea after she jumps into the car and ignores his protests about being off-duty...long story short- she ends up brutally murdered and Naz is the main suspect

the show is getting praised for everything from its gritty NYC setting, excellent cast and edge of your seat storytelling...anchoring the show is John Turturro as attorney John Stone, who represents Naz...it's a role that was initially inhabited by James Gandolfini in the show's original 2013 pilot before his untimely death...

The Night Of premieres Sunday at 9/8c on HBO...it's an 8 part miniseries

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I watched Episode 1 and liked it well enough to convince me to stick around for a while. I had to suspend belief big time to swallow that a very bright college student could get himself into so much trouble in such a short time. Still, the performances are terrific, particularly Riz Ahmed, as Naz the exceedingly unlucky college kid, Bill Camp, as a tired NYPD detective, and John Turturro, as an equally tired defense lawyer. I am also encouraged by the uniformly favorable reviews the show has received. Time will tell, I guess.
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I watched Episode 1 and liked it well enough to convince me to stick around for a while. I had to suspend belief big time to swallow that a very bright college student could get himself into so much trouble in such a short time. Still, the performances are terrific, particularly Riz Ahmed, as Naz the exceedingly unlucky college kid, Bill Camp, as a tired NYPD detective, and John Turturro, as an equally tired defense lawyer. I am also encouraged by the uniformly favorable reviews the show has received. Time will tell, I guess.
I thought it was well done. I don't have a problem with how he got himself into trouble just that he kept on digging. Also, he was smart/dumb enough to try to cover his perceived tracks then completely oblivious to the need to keep his trap shut until he talked to a lawyer or even ask for one. I have a prediction:

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Yes, good series potential. Based on a BBC series and from IMDB, which lacks any tech details so far, looks like mostly British production. Couldn't help but recall while watcing, as the protagonist seems to slowly slip down a drain, of a recent article about actual, not fictional, lives routinely ruined--in the thousands--by miscarriages of justice. The NY Times piece, "How a $2 Roadside Drug Test Sends Innocent People to Jail," is sprinkled with lots of alarming data. It deals with how the drug test messed up one woman's life., while outlining the bigger picture. Hope someone makes a movie of it, too. -- John

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Yes, good series potential. Based on a BBC series and from IMBD, which lacks any tech details so far, looks like mostly British production. Couldn't help but recall while watcing, as the protagonist seems to slowly slip down a drain, of a recent article about actual, not fictional, lives routinely ruined--in the thousands--by miscarriages of justice. The NY Times piece, "How a $2 Roadside Drug Test Sends Innocent People to Jail," is sprinkled with lots of alarming data. It deals with how the drug test messed up one woman's life., while outlining the bigger picture. Hope someone makes a movie of it, too. -- John
I don't see anything resembling a miscarriage of justice up to this point. Naz is in his precarious predicament largely due to his own actions and the preliminary evidence against him is pretty strong. Heck, that might be an understatement.

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^^^Yup, didn't write it was. Could be, but not so far. The $2 field test is though. -- John
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^^^Yup, didn't write it was. Could be, but not so far. The $2 field test is though. -- John

Yeah, just talking. Sounds like they may have some chain of evidence issues too. We'll see where it goes.

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Don't check IMDB for the series. I knew I recognized the actor playing his father and couldn't remember from where (The Separation), but in checking I saw that certain characters only appear in a certain number of the episodes, which was a bit of a spoiler for me.

The tension was great for both my wife and myself watching. We foolishly watched on demand a week early though, so it's going to be rough waiting for that second ep unless they add that to HBO OD early as well...
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Here is to hoping they keep up the tension!!

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I see that James Gandolfini was associated with this as executive producer. A search reveals that he was going to play the lawyer John Stone, now played by John Turturro.

http://www.northjersey.com/arts-and-...-hbo-1.1627986
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I see that James Gandolfini was associated with this as executive producer. A search reveals that he was going to play the lawyer John Stone, now played by John Turturro.

http://www.northjersey.com/arts-and-...-hbo-1.1627986
I saw that during the opening (or possibly then end) credit and wondered if anyone has had his/her name associated so many properties post-mortem. Then I thought I might be a victim of the Mandela Effect.

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This show is about one dumb ass kid.
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Too dumb for me to bother watching. I bailed about 1/2 way through ep-1, won't be back.
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Anyone bailing early on this is likely going to be back to it later.
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so who here thinks that Naz actually committed the crime?
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I watched Episode 1 and liked it well enough to convince me to stick around for a while. I had to suspend belief big time to swallow that a very bright college student could get himself into so much trouble in such a short time. Still, the performances are terrific, particularly Riz Ahmed, as Naz the exceedingly unlucky college kid, Bill Camp, as a tired NYPD detective, and John Turturro, as an equally tired defense lawyer. I am also encouraged by the uniformly favorable reviews the show has received. Time will tell, I guess.
I don't think being a book smart college student means you are smart in everything else in life, especially when in this circumstance. Knowing a physics formula doesn't mean he knows women, what to do if you wake up next to a dead person, etc. etc.

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so who here thinks that Naz actually committed the crime?
The guy who owns that hat on the wall in her or his apartment that appears and disappears next to the mounted reindeer's stuffed head and not the one dumb ass kid, so far.
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The plumpish middle-aged neighbor murdered the young woman. For some reason they briefly zoomed in to a dark mark on his right hand doing the night-time initial investigation. Don't know how he got into her apartment--maybe he's a locksmith. -- John

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The plumpish middle-aged neighbor murdered the young woman. For some reason they briefly zoomed in to a dark mark on his right hard doing the night-time initial investigation. Don't know how he got into her apartment--maybe he's a locksmith. -- John
Without any evidence my best guess was the friend of the guy detained as a witness. His buddy really stared long and hard at Nazir and Andrea. At the time I thought he was about to pounce on them. He wasn't to be seen when his friend was questioned by the police.
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Without any evidence my best guess was the friend of the guy detained as a witness. His buddy really stared long and hard at Nazir and Andrea. At the time I thought he was about to pounce on them. He wasn't to be seen when his friend was questioned by the police.
and the witness said he was alone when he was interviewed...
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I think the murderer is going to turn out to be the guy they ran into at the gas station. He asked her if she wanted "to be the next passenger in my car," and when they pulled back, it looked like it was a hearse. As soon as they pulled out of the station, he started his car and seemed to follow them out onto the road.

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I think the murderer is going to turn out to be the guy they ran into at the gas station. He asked her if she wanted "to be the next passenger in my car," and when they pulled back, it looked like it was a hearse. As soon as they pulled out of the station, he started his car and seemed to follow them out onto the road.

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He also picked up her cigarette when he did that and showed it to her and put it out on her window, seeming to indicate he was talking about lung cancer. Or he was so mad she flicked a cigarette out the window he was going to kill her.

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I'm quite interested after watching last night, but it has that annoying TV/movie contrivance where NO ONE EXPLAINS THEMSELVES and sustains confusion/ambiguity for longer than necessary.

By the time Naz got into the room with Det. Box, he should have done a little more 'splainin for himself. "I was trying to go to this party, I took my dad's cab, this woman got into the cab because I didn't know how to run the "off duty" light, I don't know Manhattan very well, she was mesmerizing and we ended up at her place. She gave a me a pill before we got there, we had drinks and she played this crazy game with a knife, and I accidentally cut her hand when she insisted that I try. We had sex, and later I woke up in her kitchen, confused. I went to say goodbye to her, and found her murdered in her room. I have no idea how it happened, even though that sounds crazy. I panicked and took the knife with me because I knew my blood was all over it. And lots of other places, too.

Now, whether that memory hole is in fact true, or it simply wasn't shown to us viewers remains to be seen, but it's still stupid that he hasn't tried to make an explanation (even a ridiculous one).
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He also picked up her cigarette when he did that and showed it to her and put it out on her window, seeming to indicate he was talking about lung cancer. Or he was so mad she flicked a cigarette out the window he was going to kill her.
It's because she threw a lit cigarette out the window at a GAS station. Kaboom!!!
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Really enjoyed tonight's episode.
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An interesting cinematography technique for such a dismal topic. Extended shots of rain puddles, for example, or a long panoramic shot of a prisoner bus heading for Rikers Island. Slow pans inside precincts and Manhattan prisons, while cops and lawyers exchange barbed banalities. As suggested earlier it's a slow artsy video trip down a drain, likely bringing in the Rikers guard-prisoner brutality exposed in a recent NY Times series. -- John
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Esp 2 was kinda slow but still a good episode. What's going to happen with Naz on the show? Looks like hes only credited for only two episodes......
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I loved Episode 2 and am now fully committed to the show. The performances of Bill Camp, as Detective Sergeant Box, and John Turturro, as the lawyer Jack Stone, continue to blow me away. The scene on the subway in which Stone scratched his eczema ridden foot with a chopstick and the woman sitting next to him got up in disgust and moved away made me laugh out loud. Jack's social skills leave something to be desired.
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