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Timeless on NBC-HD

Not even a thread for the show? Well, I watched the Pilot. Hey I actually liked it. I'm a sucker for any kind of time travel show though. I'll watch next week for sure.
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One and done for me. VERY formula driven. We've seen all of this over and over before. Sort of like time travel without leaving your home.

We have the bad guy who may not be a bad guy, a secret government agency with a hidden agenda, lost family members/wives the hero's are trying to get back. It's all been done before.
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Abigail Spencer puts me in for at least a few episodes.
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Trailers made me nervous. Look a little corn-ball..
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Time travel can be done well, or it can be done stupid. So far this show looks interesting enough that I'll watch next week, too.
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Underwhelmed by pilot. 12 Monkeys it ain't. But will give it another episode or two before bailing.

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Very mixed feelings. Most of the first two thirds seemed trite, extruded, by-the numbers. Dweebish tech nerd who's no good in a fight. Macho soldier type who does stupid things because he's too noble to be smart. Academic who knows stuff but is complicated underneath.

And the premise seems to be, pretty much, Time Tunnel (insofar as the'll be going to a different time period every week, apparently.

They really needed to explain why they were in such a hurry. Why couldn't they wait as long as necessary to prepare the mission properly, and then travel back to the same target date they were in such a mad rush to get to?

But the twist at the end caught me by surprise when it was revealed that the premise allows for actual changes to the timeline that affect the main characters, that people they new have been erased from the revised timeline. Set aside logical and causal inconsistencies that result from all this (because you wouldn't be able to tell time travel stories if you applied rigid logic to them); the potential suddenly becomes intriguing.

I'll give it a little rope. I've been a little nostalgic for Time Tunnel.

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Wasn't impressed either. Feels like another poorly thought out premise with sloppy writing. Not as bad as Time Trax but definitely in the ballpark of Timecop the series.

They never explained the rules they are working to but from the end it seems that they are creating alternate timelines and not just jumping on a single linear timeline. So they jump back along their existing timeline, but jump to the present along the timeline that has been altered by their presence.

If that's the case then why bother chasing after the bad guy? The very fact they were stood in the unchanged present discussing how to go after him obviously meant that his use of a time machine had no effect on their history. If it did then the present would have instantly changed the moment he vanished.

The writing was also trying far too hard to get some laughs from anachronisms. People constanly referring to the bad guy wearing pajamas I assume was supposed to be funny but made no sense. He was basically wearing typical boiler suit overalls common to that period, so I don't know why they kept presenting it as some kind of future fashion. The engineer in the Hindenburg at the very beginning was wearing them. Being confused and amazed by the pistol was a stretch too. The M1911 had been around for 25 years at that point and doesn't look that much different.

They also never bothered to show how they hide a giant time travel sphere in the past. "Don't change anything!" but if don't worry if someone finds your timeship sitting in a field.

Maybe Lem from Better Off Ted (looks like he's been working out! ) should have stayed with the ship. It would have been the safer option. Forget the spying stuff. Just tell your boss nothing happened and avoid getting beaten for no good reason every week.



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The M1911 had been around for 25 years at that point and doesn't look that much different.
I agree with most of you wrote. I didn't recognize the identity of the "modern" pistol but I'm fairly certain it would have had a clip holding 12 or more rounds vs. the M1911's 7 - .45 rounds. If I was a 1937 Cop that alone would get me thinking.
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I liked the pilot, at least enough to keep watching for a few more weeks. The pilot was too rushed, but I liked some of the twists (the bad guy may not be the bad guy, the good guy may not be all good, her family changes).

I'll even give them some leeway on the time travel conundrum. It might have been better to have the groups 'linked' so that when the bad guys travel, the good guys have too, too (like Journeyman - he couldn't control when he jumped). The notion that the good guys have to follow the bad guys through time is of course ludicrous (because as soon as the bad guys jump, history has already happened and the present (future) has already changed).
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So I kind of enjoyed the pilot until you guys pointed out the inherent flaw in the time travel premise. Hopefully in an upcoming episode Lucy will draw a bunch of circles on a white board so it all makes sense and I can go back in time to when I was blissfully ignorant.
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I think it was Captain Janeway who said "Time travel gives me a headache", but I'm going to give it a few more episodes. As previously noted, lots of paint by the numbers plot devices, but I'll try a few more eps.

I thought the Hindenburg effects were very impressive. It almost felt like you were there. Good job in that department.
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We have been looking forward to this, haven't watched it yet though.

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They really needed to explain why they were in such a hurry. Why couldn't they wait as long as necessary to prepare the mission properly, and then travel back to the same target date they were in such a mad rush to get to?

Funny you said that. A co-worker said the same thing. If you know when a person has traveled to, then why do you need to be in a hurry to get to that time. You already know when the other person is going to be there.
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The wife and I enjoyed it. We just cranked up the 'suspension of disbelief emitter' a little and jumped in. I mean, that's kinda the default setting for time travel stories anyway, right?

I'm hoping they can make it work as we don't get many of these type shows on network TV.
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I do like the lead actress and have since I first saw her in Mad Men.
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I love time travel ideas, so I eagerly waited for this show. It turned out to be a big disappointment. Not loving it. Don't care for the team concept. I would much prefer a show about one main character. What hideous looking time machine! This is time travel badly done.
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I do like the lead actress and have since I first saw her in Mad Men.
Yes, Spencer is a very talented individual. Not only an actor but a writer and producer of both TV and film.
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Wasn't she on Suits?
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One and done for me. VERY formula driven. We've seen all of this over and over before. Sort of like time travel without leaving your home.

We have the bad guy who may not be a bad guy, a secret government agency with a hidden agenda, lost family members/wives the hero's are trying to get back. It's all been done before.


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Yes, she played Harvey's on and off girlfriend "Scotty".

She is also in Sundance's "Rectify", she plays the sister of the accused and is excellent in the role.
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I, like some here, am also a sucker for time travel shows. So far I'm happy enough to stick with this one. When it was over I thought it reminded me of the current theme in DC's Legends of Tomorrow. The guy they are trying to find and neutralize is similar the DC guys quest to predict when and where Vandal Savage will next appear.
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I like time travel yarns and know going in there is going to be a mass of mindless stuff to ignore. Go with the flow and enjoy the period-piece aspect.

Incidentally, the show's producers have already been hit with a suit by producers of a similar show in Spain saying that the Producers of "timeless" were in negotiations with them for rights on their show, when they pulled out and ran with the concept anyway.

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The NBC show "Timeless" hasn't aired its first episode yet, but it has already prompted a copyright infringement lawsuit by the makers of a Spanish-language series.
ONZA Partners sued NBCUniversal and Sony Pictures Entertainment, claiming "Timeless" is an unauthorized version of its show "El Ministerio del Tiempo" ("The Ministry of Time.")

ONZA contends it was in negotiations with Sony to produce a U.S.-version of its series, which features a three-person team (which) hops through time trying to stop criminals from changing key historical events...

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/...ts-9309839.php

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Incidentally, the show's producers have already been hit with a suit by producers of a similar show in Spain saying that the Producers of "timeless" were in negotiations with them for rights on their show, when they pulled out and ran with the concept anyway.
The resemblance is pretty basic and Timeless is cookie-cutter enough to match up to multiple shows.

If anything the Spanish show sounds a lot more interesting! Having people from the past as part of the time investigation team is more fun than just the usual present-day procedural formula.


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Wow that's a compelling first few minutes (don't have time to watch the whole hour). Time Traveler seemed like it could have been good. Certainly better than Timeless has been so far!
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I wish we could have gotten more from "Journeyman"... that only lasted the one season on NBC. I thought it was pretty well done. This is on the DVR, will watch it by the weekend.
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