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Im stumped...

The real page states ....

With the addition of the HD package, DIRECTV will offer seven HD channels to its more than 11.4 million customers nationwide. DIRECTV customers are currently receiving HBO® HDTV and SHOWTIME HDTV® as part of their premium packages, as well as HD PPV movies for $4.99 each.

HBOHD + ShowtimeHD + PPV HD = 3
3 <> 7
Am I missing something?
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I am missing something. My brain. Yikess !
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you know what's really sad??

Lost in all this excitment of yesterday's announcement you may have missed that D* also added locals for the thriving metropolis of Hunstville Alabama

"We done got us some pretty televersion pictures there honey"
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Originally posted by sdf777
Has anyone confirmed that you will get HBO and Showtime HD for $10.99 without subscribing to HBO and showtime SD channels? If so, this will save me money - i don't watch the SD channels anyway.
No confirmation yet but I am ready to do battle tonight once I get home and see if these channels are on or not. The funny thing is I really don't care for either one when I have had them in the past I never watched them. But we will see.
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Hi:

I just wanted to jump in and add my 2 cents worth....

Like many of you I am very glad that DirecTV finally decided to get its act together by offering this package. Hopefully this will be a sign of bigger things to come! :)

But I also want to express my frustration like many of you have, about the lack of HBO-HD and Showtime-HD being offered as part of this package. I only subscribe to HBO right now, but seriously, I only watch the HD broadcasts on Ch.509...the other HBO channels end up showing the same movies (more or less) at different times throughout the day. Its a big waste of money, IMO.

DirecTV should not waste any time and offer one big super HD pack, including HBO HB and Showtime HD. I'd gladly pay $15 a month for it (but then again, after spending $2K on my equipment, it'd be nice if they could just throw it in there for no additional charge!)

If they really listen to their customers, they'll incorporate these two channels into this package in the not too distant future. Only time will tell.

In short, thank you DirecTV for putting this together. Let the good times roll! July 1st can't come soon enough!!! :D
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I called Direct TV to see about whether the new tier will be available ala carte as I am an HBO family pack subscriber only. I was told that it was after speaking with a manager and that you do NOT have to upgrade to a total choice package to get the new tier. Therefore, I am ordering it. At least I can always drop it if I find it not to be worth the money.
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Originally posted by MickeyGee
... we have just witnessed the creation of another substantial barrier to rolling out HD to the masses. Currently, slowness in HD adoption is primarily a function of high HDTV set prices, although these are coming down. Now, we must ask the average consumer to pay for a HDTV and then pay more to watch their favorite shows in HD. What will compel them to do this? While the Early Adopters will be more than willing to fork over the $11 bucks a month, I am not so sure that the masses will follow.
I agree. Let's say I am average D* SD subscriber. I hear "hey -- now 7 channels of HD available" I say "Great -- I needed a new TV anyway, eh ??"

no-

new TV- new wide dish-3rd LNB and pony up another $130 a year.

"But ESPN-HD has special programming??"
No -- same as ESPN

"Discovery HD?? Showtime HD? HBO HD?"
same as SD channels.

"Then what new content do I get??"
The HDNets.

"Gee -- I thought they came free with the $35 package."
Not anymore.

I may be an "early adopter" but I'm not a D* investor and at these rates it sure feels like we're being asked to financing the changeover.

It seems the immediate future of HD is OTA.
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Originally posted by HobeSoundDarryl
For those wanting something for nothing, you probably can’t watch one live sporting event or one movie at a theater for less than the $11 they are going to charge.
This is a great point with which I wholeheartedly agree!

My HD DNS days are kaput!
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etcarey, what you miss is that it's all about HD and not necessarily about new content. We've all appreciated HBO and Showtime in HD without that being new content. I think you're just not as "in to" HD as many of us are.
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ESPN-HD is 720p. I assumed that DirecTV would pass this through at 720p, but will they?? Or can we expect it to be upconverted ( or downconverted, depending on your religious persuasion) to 1080i?
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Along with Huntsville locals, watch 999 for the other all-new FREE addition to the Total Choice package. Those of you hung up on losing HDNet to this new Premium Package may be glad to know they are adding a replacement starting July 1 "at no additional cost". I believe it is called something like the "American Shopping Network".;)

Just what we needed right?
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Considering that 720p compresses better, I don't know why they would degrade a signal by cross-converting it to 1080i and then compressing it. If they did that, it would look like crappola.
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Looks like us Premier customers get no break on price. I'm downgrading!!

Dear John,

"Thank you for writing. At this time, we do not have plans to offer a
discount on our HDTV package to TOTAL CHOICE PREMIER customers. However,
we have forwarded your comments to the appropriate department. We are
always looking for ways to enhance our services. Your suggestions are
valuable and we use them to judge interest in various areas of our
service. In fact, many changes we have made are a result of viewer
feedback.

Please continue to visit our web site at DIRECTV.com for the latest news
and information about our services.

Thank you again for writing"
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I put my vote in for nice job Directv. I really didn't expect that these additional channels were going to be free, I think they have priced the package reasonably. One thing that amazes is me is the espn hd website is actually getting worse. They have tried to announce the Directv news on thier page, which now looks worse than it did this afternoon. It seems they could accomplish something a little more professional looking by now. Other than that....only 26days5hrs50minutes to go...
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I still have 9 months left on my 1 year comitment. I know it was for total choice, but if they tell me I now have to pay for HDNET as far as I'm concerned, they have broken the commitment, as I signed up mainly for HD and HDNET. So it looks like if they want to keep my $115 a month coming in. They are going to have to offer me some incentive to do so.

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Hehehe, you got a Dear John letter from DirecTV


/unoriginal_mode_off

From what I garner in this (and many other threads), they would not do any up / down conversion of the source material. 720p stays 720p, 1080i stays 1080i.

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Two dumb newbie questions:

1) Even if the D* satellite upgrade is free, I'm assuming that you still need to buy a D* HD-capable receiver box? Looks like the cheapest one available at a few major online retailers I've looked at is ~ $500. Is that right?

2) How much of ESPN's programming is in HD? Is there a website within espn.com that shows how much HD programming they have? I'm assuming its not anywhere close to 24/7? Yet ...
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Two dumb newbie questions:

1) Even if the D* satellite upgrade is free, I'm assuming that you still need to buy a D* HD-capable receiver box? Looks like the cheapest one available at a few major online retailers I've looked at is ~ $500. Is that right?

2) How much of ESPN's programming is in HD? Is there a website within espn.com that shows how much HD programming they have? I'm assuming its not anywhere close to 24/7? Yet ...
The answers to both of your questions are found in the HDTV Programming Synopsis & the HDTV STB Synopsis.

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I've been told DirecTV will pass HDTV in the format they receive it in, which means ESPN HD in 720p & HDNet, HDNet Movies, Discovery HD Theater in 1080i.

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Quote:
Originally posted by sdf777
Has anyone confirmed that you will get HBO and Showtime HD for $10.99 without subscribing to HBO and showtime SD channels?
Yes, it's confirmed this announcement will not change how DirecTV subscribers can get HBO & Showtime.

If you want HBO HD you will have to subscribe to the HBO package, if you want Showtime HD you will have to subscribe to the Showtime package.

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DirecTV called me to follow up on a complaint I made regarding their HD quality, they said that internal folks were informed about it yesterday (Tuesday June 3). I was happy to hear it.
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Is anyone noticing there is no longer a signal on 110 Transponder 10? I thought it was my dish at first, but Transponder 8 and 12 get good reception.

Maybe they're beginning to do a move to it?
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Is anyone noticing there is no longer a signal on 110 Transponder 10? I thought it was my dish at first, but Transponder 8 and 12 get good reception.

Maybe they're beginning to do a move to it?
I noticed the same thing, I also noticed that lyngsat.com currently only lists 2 transponders at that location for DirecTV now, 28 and 32, I believe 30 used to be listed there as well, but no longer is...

Coincidence :confused:
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JohnA: Sorry to make your post a victim of my rant for the day.

Here goes anyway.

There is a real good chance the e-mail you got is correct and that TCP customers will get no discount on the HD package. There is also a better-than-zero chance the info you got is dead wrong / incomplete / miscommunicated / etc.

Why? Because the way to get real information about things that are not so widely disseminated as to be on the web site is NOT from e-mail to CSRs. It just isn't. People always post their e-mail responses and say, "XXX is/is not going to happen." Oftentimes, it just isn't true.

You want to really know? Wait until x, y, or z is actually available or talk to the executive making the decisions and get them to candidly answer your questions. But don't assertively state that some e-mail from a CSR is gospel.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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rogo - Your point is well taken, I am just posting a response received directly from a company representative. Assimilate it for what it is worth.
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Hey etcarey do us all a favor, please don't subscribe to the 11 dollar a month package!

It will sure teach D* a lesson!

Just think of all the things you don't subscribe to, (Playboy, etc,..)
If we go under your thoughts Playboy should have Fallen into oblivion years ago!

I however will be enjoying my new wasted 11 bucks on HD programming!
I will stop drinking Molson and Move to Busch.........

Wait I haven't completely lost my mind!!!! :D

Wake me when HD gets Here!
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How in the world do watching porn for background noise and this new HD package have anything in common? Whoops, I digress. In my opinion I think this is a step in the right direction. It at least shows us all that DTV is willing to listen to the HD'ers out there and give us more content. The flip side is they could be sitting there twittling their thumbs and then we would have a thread flaming them for not being proactive enough.....the bottom line is they can't win no matter what they do. I for one am just happy, now the old lady may not be when the bill goes from 87.99 to 99.00....Oh well!!!!!!!! On July 1 my HD content will go up and thats what I care about most. Sundays nights are not gonna be the same......

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BTW just to keep the official stuff going, ESPN is now reporting the deal on their webpage:

http://msn.espn.go.com/espnhd/news.html
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Here is another Press Release from HDNet

http://www.hd.net/2003-prarchive/2003-06-03-01.html
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I've been told DirecTV will pass HDTV in the format they receive it in, which means ESPN HD in 720p & HDNet, HDNet Movies, Discovery HD Theater in 1080i.
If I recall correctly, the DTC100 converts all HD to 1080i. A fair percentage of D* HD subscribers probably use that box (or the Proscan equivalent).
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