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According to my Tivo, all channels from 770 to 779 are still slotted as ESPN GamePlan channels, and the 774-775 channels on my HD receiver are consistent with that.
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Titan TV now lists D* channel 778 as HDNet Movies.

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I've searched the entire D* site, and cannot find a link to sign up for this package. Are they selling subrsriptions for this yet?

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I've searched the entire D* site, and cannot find a link to sign up for this package. Are they selling subrsriptions for this yet?
NO
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Well, I just talked to a D* salesman and asked about adding the new HD channels... he said that they would be turned on automatically on the 1st. Then I asked about the cost... he said there was no extra charge.

I'm not sure who to believe until there is more info - but I really hope he is right! Not likely though...

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I'm surprised that any of their reps even know about it. :D

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Well, I just talked to a D* salesman and asked about adding the new HD channels... he said that they would be turned on automatically on the 1st. Then I asked about the cost... he said there was no extra charge.

I'm not sure who to believe until there is more info - but I really hope he is right! Not likely though...

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Hello fellow couch potatoes! From reading some of the preceding posts, it would appear that life as we know it will cease to exist if we don't have the new HD package turned on at 12AM July 1st. GOD forbid we should have to wait until noon or 5PM, or even worse-July 2nd. That being said, note to DIRECTV: How the he** do we sign up for this freakin' package?
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I know one thing for sure. If D* turns off free HDNET on July 1 and there are problems subscribing to the package (ie untrained CSR's), there's likely to be a lot of unhappy campers on this board. :mad:

Here's some conjecture:
For those of us that already have the HDTV package (currently free), it would make sense to turn it on for free, at least initially. If I was D*, I would give it away for the first couple of weeks while they let people know its cost, and get them hooked on the content, before instituting the charge for this tier of service. I would make it an opt out type of choice -- ie "we will start charging you unless you cancel HDTV..." This would ensure the most seamless transition, and probably maximize their subscriber base. Just my $0.02.
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I currently have Pegasus as my local DirecTV provider:rolleyes: . Anyway, I called them because I had the Sunay Ticket last year when I still lived in DirecTV territory. I wanted to make sure that I have it again this year. I asked the Pegasus CSR about ESPN-HD. He said that I had to talk to DirecTV about anything in HD.

I called DirecTV and told them that I was a Pegasus subscriber and that they told me to call them. The CSR chuckled and told me that the package was coming out July 1. He told me that the price would be $10.99. He said that I would need to call DirecTV again on July 1 to get the new channels. So, if there's any other Pegasus people out there, call DirecTV on July 1 to add the package. Don't call Pegasus.

So... why do I pay Pegasus? :p
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This "assumes" that everyone here believes that DirecTV cares!
This thread is more organized than D* !
There are some people in an office at D* making decisions what they believe is the way to handle marketing.
Then they out source CSR's to handle the public.

How can we second guess confusion ?????
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I know one thing for sure. If D* turns off free HDNET on July 1 and there are problems subscribing to the package (ie untrained CSR's), there's likely to be a lot of unhappy campers on this board. :mad:

Here's some conjecture:
For those of us that already have the HDTV package (currently free), it would make sense to turn it on for free, at least initially. If I was D*, I would give it away for the first couple of weeks while they let people know its cost, and get them hooked on the content, before instituting the charge for this tier of service. I would make it an opt out type of choice -- ie "we will start charging you unless you cancel HDTV..." This would ensure the most seamless transition, and probably maximize their subscriber base. Just my $0.02.
I think this would be an EXTREMELY poor way to handle it.

While I agree that it would make sense to give it away for free for a couple weeks or a month to give people a "taste", forcing people to "opt-out" is not a good idea. I'm 100% against being forced to act in order to get out of something I didn't ask to be part of in the first place. I think this would be a huge PR blunder if they chose to handle it this way.

All that being said, I will most likely be on the phone (or website) come July 1st to sign up. Just don't push me...;)
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New HDTV theory - what's D*'s history?

I've only been a sub for 18 months, but does D* have any history of switching services on and making you cancel?

My hardcopy bill has line item HDTV HDNET at $0.00, but my online statement just says HDTV at $0.00. Any chance that they'll plug in $10.99 next time? This would actually work for me as I've got the grandfather deal.
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To answer some questions and correct some misconceptions:

* They are not going to suddenly bill you $10.99.
* There is no chance the package will be free. It will be $10.99. There is a chance that you will get a free preview of the package.
* There is a chance that existing customers with HD on their accounts will be allowed to keep HDNet's main channel for free for some time. But I'm not sure what if/any decision has been reached on this.

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Channel 73 shows up as unavailable on my D* setup
As it should on the system of anybody who is a PAYING DirecTV subscriber.
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I think this would be an EXTREMELY poor way to handle it.

While I agree that it would make sense to give it away for free for a couple weeks or a month to give people a "taste", forcing people to "opt-out" is not a good idea. I'm 100% against being forced to act in order to get out of something I didn't ask to be part of in the first place. I think this would be a huge PR blunder if they chose to handle it this way.

All that being said, I will most likely be on the phone (or website) come July 1st to sign up. Just don't push me...;)
How many people that currently receive HDTV on D* do you think will choose not to receive the new package? The VAST majority of those watching HD right now remain enthusiasts. I bet if you took a poll - I may start one - that you will find over 95% of people will pay for the new package.
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Actually, there is a poll already and the numbers seemed to have leveled off at about 85% saying they will subscribe, but that's not the point.

I don't want DirecTV (or anyone else) assuming that I want their service and automatically enrolling me.
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I can understand that opinion as a matter of principle.
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They could do it like PPV channels in the first 5 minutes. Instead, pass the signals for 2 weeks free, with a banner at the bottom that reads "Press select for ordering info" on all the HDTV Package channels. After 2 (or 4) weeks make them go black as a non-subscribed channel.
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Does anyone see a wash line around ?

DirecTV does not care if they insult anyone.
From what is being said, most people moan and groan, but will pay, no matter what.

The real question should be is $10.99 worth it, and does it have value ?

Guesses, and what if's, are not facts.
Is the price worth Discovery HD, and ESPN HD ?

I don't like the fact that they charge you a fee, so they can charge you more money for PPV HDnet movies.
You are paying twice !!!!
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I don't like the fact that they charge you a fee, so they can charge you more money for PPV HDnet movies.
You are paying twice !!!!
Huh???

I'm pretty sure the HD PPV channel is independant of the announced HD package. I would imagine that even if you do not subscribe to the HD package you will still be able to order HD PPV. It would certainly be in their best interest to keep it this way...
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I've only been a sub for 18 months, but does D* have any history of switching services on and making you cancel?

When I originally signed up, I received 3 mos. HBO free and was told it would automatically shut off unless I called to keep the service going.
HBO appeared as $0 on my bill. After the 3mos. were up they started charging me for HBO without my input. I had to call to cancel it.

So, I believe it's possible the HD service could start automatically for those with the $0 HD on their current bills. There is a minor precedent, at least in my case.

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Hacking sites are reporting that ESPN-HD is on now chan 73. Discovery-HD is reportedly also on chan 73 :confused: but there's no video and HDNM is chan 81, no video yet. I can't confirm this stuff, I'm only relaying what others are reporting.
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I don't like the fact that they charge you a fee, so they can charge you more money for PPV HDnet movies.
You are paying twice !!!!
*sigh*

There is no PPV HDnet Movies.

There is HD PPV.

There is HDNet Movies.

Two separate channels.

HDNet Movies is included in the 10.99 price of the HD package.

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"There is no PPV HDnet Movies"
????
Yes there is, now after 2 AM !
But you have to subscribe to a package to get it.
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"There is no PPV HDnet Movies"
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Yes there is, now after 2 AM !
But you have to subscribe to a package to get it.
Again, it has nothing to do with HDnet. That is Directv choosing to cut away from the 24 hour HDnet programming to have PPV for 8 hours instead.
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You sure? I'm a la carte and it lets me buy the movies, although it's rare I'm up early or late enough to watch one. Been a few weeks since I did, too.

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Those movies after 2AM EST are done by D*, not by HDnet. It is like Bogney Baux said.
Those are all "first run" (for PPV) movies.
HDnet movies has all older titles.
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"There is no PPV HDnet Movies"
????
Yes there is, now after 2 AM !
But you have to subscribe to a package to get it.
This is incorrect. HDNet is currently on until 2 AM ET, which does require a Total Choice or better subscription. After 2 AM ET, DirecTV has their own HDTV PPV movies, at $4.99 a shot.

The two are not connected, except for sharing the same channel number.

Anyway, who cares? It will all change in 5 days.

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I still am sure that no one will suddenly be charged $10.99 unless they agree to the package or a major screwup occurs.

<< When I originally signed up, I received 3 mos. HBO free and was told it would automatically shut off unless I called to keep the service going.>>

The original CSR was mistaken. All those introductory offers do, in fact, switch to paying unless you cancel.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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