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Why no R-rated shows/movies on broadcast TV?

Save for the terrible reception, there are other things which irritate me about broadcast television.

One thing which bothers me is that there are no R-rated movies and TV-MA rated T.V. shows shown on broadcast television. These shows and movies should be welcome on broadcast T.V. uncensored. If you are a parent and are worried about this type of programming, use a V Chip. I don't need to be play parental for me. Pay T.V. services are guilty of editing R-rated movies, but at least they show them.


Another thing which irks me about broadcast T.V. is the lack or current movies or artistic movies or movies catering to a niche audience.

The third thing which bothers me is the excessive abundance of sitcoms (which I loathe), courtroom shows, and soap operas. As I see it, one is too many.

Further: the lack of educational shows, and 24 hour news and weather is quite troublesome.

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That is why more & more people aren't watching BrTV as much any more. Since we got rid of cable TV & set up Netflix & Amazon Prime, who needs that commercial laden pap?

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I don't think rated R should be on regular tv. I agree the are way too many Cop,Dr and lawyer shows. Note they are taking great movies like training day & lethal weapon and pissing on those great movies by making half baked TV shows out of them and running the memory of great movies. These idiots can't come up with anything original anymore. In today's age, all these companies need the cash grab, whether it's games it movies, most are trash nowadays. This thread did say rent.. right? 😎

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I don't think rated R should be on regular tv.
Why is that?
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Why should they be? That's what Showtime/Cinemax/HBO is for. I can't see that happening on a mainstream station. The only thing that would happen is your lawyer/Dr/Cop shows would be rated R. There wouldn't be any good content in those stations anyhow.

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Why should they be? That's what Showtime/Cinemax/HBO is for.
So such movies should be off limits to those who can't or don't want to pay for cable when it comes to TV?

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That's the whole point of cable. If you want R rated stuff you have to pay for it. Why would they give it to you for free?

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Why should you sanitize what other people watch?
Why should movies under R rating be free?
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You don't have to pay for that kind of content in Europe. I've seen full frontal nudity on regular TV in Germany. I guess they are not prudish in nature.

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Movies on broadcast? Nope.

Don't care what the rating is, if a movie is shown with commercial breaks it's not worth watching except as a background noise. If you like movies at all you wouldn't want to watch something hacked into pieces to begin with.

Don't care about the ratings in general either. If a show is worth watching it should be because of the writing, acting and direction not because it has boobs, gore or profanity. As long as the content isn't censored by a network I'll watch any kind of programming.
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Public TV has to abide by public standards of decency. You can't get served by a topless waitress in McDonald's either... Why should only a person who can afford to pay a cover charge in a strip club get to be served by a nude hostess?

But I digress.

Public airwaves belong to everyone... so it has to appeal to a broader base... now, IF all we had were public airwaves, I might be inclined to agree... as there'd be no way for ANYONE to watch certain kinds of programming. But the advent of cable and satellite and Internet TV allows people to seek out other things that aren't on the public airwaves. Nobody is entitled to watch any particular thing. If a channel gives you content, that's their prerogative. IF they sell it, then you have to pay to see it. Them's the breaks.

I'm not offended my nudity and cursing, but I like that there are certain channels, especially the broadcast ones, where I can depend on a certain level of lack of those things for when I'm not in the mood for that kind of entertainment.
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Please keep topic titles specific. See my edit.

Also, the color you used in part of your first post is invisible to half of AVS users. The "retro" theme is every bit as popular as the new default. Retro has a black background. I had to highlight your text to read it. Just sayin.'

To your point.. you live in Neosho, Missouri, correct? So, that's Joplin television stations. What do you think Bible Belt advertisers are going to do when R-rated content hits the air, there? Especially when all those parents and all those church members start protesting the advertisers' businesses? Yank their ads. Not only from the program, but from the whole station. You are not the customer. The advertiser is. The television station has to deliver the most viewers possible to those advertisers. And do so without controversy. Local advertisers don't like controversy. At least not the ones who depend on local media to sell their stuff. And Joplin/Pittsburg television stations operate on way thinner profit margins than WNBC, New York.

Also, remember. You're in Central Time. All that language and nudity would be airing when a good number of kids are still up. And, yeah, they'll see and hear much worse things on the internet. But the internet rarely has a local advertiser for mothers to call and complain. Local television does.
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So, that's Joplin television stations. What do you think Bible Belt advertisers are going to do when R-rated content hits the air, there?
And remember that there is a lot of Bible reading that is done outside the "Bible Belt". (The term irks me a bit because it equates reverence for the Bible with certain strains of American Protestantism. Last I knew, Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans, and other groups had just as much reverence for the scriptures as Baptists and Methodists do.)

I dare say that there are many residents of New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago who would also be strongly opposed to turning OTA television into a pool of smut and gore.
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Also, remember. You're in Central Time. All that language and nudity would be airing when a good number of kids are still up.
Hasn't stopped Canada.

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Well, sadly we're not Canada . There's still plenty of pearl-clutchers in this country (remember Ashcroft covering the statue because OMG boobies?) and people in general who don't want their kids exposed to that kind of thing on regular TV. When my son was young I didn't want him exposed to 'words', violence or nudity and I took many steps to ensure he didn't see what I didn't approve of. Had those things been on Broadcast TV it would have been much harder.
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Yeah, you're welcome to move to Canada. Different people. Different country. Different culture. There are, what, 300 Baptist churches in all of Canada? I'd wager there are that many in southwestern Missouri, alone. Your best bet, here, is to move to New York or California, where an independent station might be more willing to air R-rated material after midnight and not catch a lot of flack for doing so. Joplin, Missouri? Better get Netflix.

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I'll say what I say about this in almost every similar thread:

We actually have laxer, yes laxer, decency laws than many other countries. Ours only cover broadcast TV, while many in Europe cover broadcast and cable. Not only that, we've banned far fewer films from even seeing the light of day than many western European countries. Like it or not, its the religious right that keeps nudity off the airwaves and (mostly) off of basic cable. A station isn't going to air something that leads to them being boycotted.
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Public TV has to abide by public standards of decency. You can't get served by a topless waitress in McDonald's either... Why should only a person who can afford to pay a cover charge in a strip club get to be served by a nude hostess?
Oddly, public semi-nudity is fine in NYC. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...free-legal-ish
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The bottom line is where this is beginning to hurt broadcast TV. Other countries don't have these rules or are so strict about them. So, as mentioned, viewers are watching more streaming where there are no restraints. That hurts ad revenue. People aren't looking so much for shocking material as they are for intelligent adult venue but along that gets watered down too.

As for the "Bible Belt", it is known to have more strip clubs than you'll find in other areas.
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The bottom line is where this is beginning to hurt broadcast TV. Other countries don't have these rules or are so strict about them. So, as mentioned, viewers are watching more streaming where there are no restraints. That hurts ad revenue. People aren't looking so much for shocking material as they are for intelligent adult venue but along that gets watered down too.
I don't think it's hurting broadcasters at all. Almost every time an dark "adult" drama has been shown on network television the ratings have been dismal in comparison to Dancing with Your American Voice Talent or Generic Sitcom Wife Problems or Cop Robbery Serial Killer Investigation Squad. That's why critical hits like "adult" American Crime get barely 4 million viewers. If This is Us was more gritty I expect the ratings would not be 9 million viewers. It's aimed at adults but only in a way the majority will accept the content. As mentioned above, you can be a show aimed at adults but on network the only way you will keep adults watching is if the content falls in line with the mainstream. Parenthood was mining the same type of dramatic presentation but even that was barely hitting 5 million in the later seasons.

When you look at the ratings of FX shows like Justified, The Americans or OJ they would barely factor into network viewing. And that's not because of the TV-MA content or because they are on cable, it's because mainstream viewers don't care. Viewers who want dark and edgy content will find it. The rest will ignore it no matter where it is.


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Movies on broadcast? Nope.

Don't care what the rating is, if a movie is shown with commercial breaks it's not worth watching except as a background noise. If you like movies at all you wouldn't want to watch something hacked into pieces to begin with.

Don't care about the ratings in general either. If a show is worth watching it should be because of the writing, acting and direction not because it has boobs, gore or profanity. As long as the content isn't censored by a network I'll watch any kind of programming.
I think you got that backwards.

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I think you got that backwards.
That's what the internet is for.

Or are you saying you are one of those who likes their porn to have a "story?"


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That's what the internet is for.

Or are you saying you are one of those who likes their porn to have a "story?"
Well I do like to know the characters backstory.

Come on now. Given the choice between sharks, zombies, boobs, blood, language and laser beams vs the rich history of 16th century Chinese textiles, I'm picking sharks & boobs all day long. Just how I roll.

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Well I do like to know the characters backstory.

Come on now. Given the choice between sharks, zombies, boobs, blood, language and laser beams vs the rich history of 16th century Chinese textiles, I'm picking sharks & boobs all day long. Just how I roll.
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I that's why I blame you completely for the output of Syfy!
Lol. Syfy has been stepping up their game lately.

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I think its the "C U - T" word that gets thrown around as a greeting in Australia. At least a certain F1 driver from Perth does so with a smile on his face.
Yeah, I've heard that (and been called that by UK friends) in casual lighthearted conversation. Probably still registers as a swear word when it's not your friends saying it to you though!

BBC America used to handle UK imports terribly and they frequently ruined the light innuendo jokes on Top Gear because of the social language disparity. I mean if you are network aimed at importing UK shows and the audience know they like UK imports and expect innuendo as a matter of course then why take out everything? They don't even have a network broadcaster excuse. If it was OTA then sure, it's not mainstream US vernacular but not only did BBCA remove all the roosters and ruin jokes but in one episode they bleeped the word "***s" even though it was in the context of the bird!

Meanwhile Gordon Ramsey was saying bull**** at 8am. But that's okay because it's not a body part.



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Or are you saying you are one of those who likes their porn to have a "story?"
I know I am. I'm particularly fond of complex narratives involving plumbers and sexy but bored housewives. I find them riveting! So to speak.
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