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Amazing win. Falcons are the real deal, excellent game on both sides.
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As a lifelong Viks fan, for some known reason, I'm happy Altanta lost !

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And the overtime rule that can allow one team to win without the other team touching the ball has got to go. Not that it would have mattered, probably, but still.
Ugh, just no. One game is not a sample size. Historically, before the new rule, when ANY score ended the game, 40% of teams receiving the OT kickoff won on the opening drive - but those teams still only won 51% overall; if the old rule didn't give them an unfair advantage, then the newer rule certainly doesn't.

The last thing the NFL needs is the NCAA garbage OT rule.
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Now, if the Pats can figure out how to get Brady four games off every year....

He will keep coming back till he decides to retire !

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My respects to Ryan and Julio Jones.. they are a heck of a special talent. But against the Pats, they were simply outlasted and out-willed by a great (G.O.A.T) QB surrounded by an incredible coaching staff and disciplined teammates.

This was one of the best Super Bowl games I've ever seen.
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what was Atlanta's defense doing in the 2nd half?...everyone seemed wide open...Pats were making quick throws and Atlanta had no clue what to do...talk about being clueless as far as making adjustments
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what was matt ryan doing passing on 3rd and 1 and what was he doing taking a sack in fg range?
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Your old Sony Grand WEGA can't touch the Mits DLP either. Newer sets of course are better, but a properly functioning Mits may have some issues, but properly resolving picture detail is not among them.

I can assure you, that seeing or not seeing anomalies in a TV broadcast are fully within the capabilities of many TVs, including Vizio 2015 M series. It lacks HDR, which is of no use for this particular picture source. Sony makes a some fine sets, and so does Vizio. A lot depends on the series. Last years M series was ranked very highly in many reviews. David Katzmaier ranked the 2015 M series very highly, and in fact the only set that outranked it overall was OLED from LG.
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I can assure you, that seeing or not seeing anomalies in a TV broadcast are fully within the capabilities of many TVs, including Vizio 2015 M series.
With LCD you wont know what 1080p/720p fine picture detail can be outside of a Samsung or Sony 4K TV upscaling HDTV or maybe an HDR OLED .

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David Katzmaier ranked the 2015 M series very highly, and in fact the only set that outranked it overall was OLED from LG.
When did Vizio or Mitsubishi ever make a decent TV like a decent better model Sony or Samsung 1080p or 4K SDR or WCG 4K HDR TV or HDR OLED or a range topping plasma ,it's 2017 they are SRSLY behind the tier one brand curves.

The Vizio P ain't all that (like the first one ) and right now it's wholly not competitive spending with the much better 2016 HDR Samsung KS8000 .or the Sony HDR X850D IPS panel thing that can't touch my 2015 Sony HDR below which may be upgraded to a Sony Z1C OLED or Z9D megawatt FALD ,


There is always something better around the corner at some point and I've had since 1993 a lot of Sony XBR ,XBR Wega and Sony ES HT AVR ,game consoles and so on and never regretted it outside of 3 unreliable PS2 and one rubbish low spend Sony Bravia LED/LCD TV that wasn't the usual Sony XBR TV and it was a bloody conventional LED also .

The Samsung 64f8500 plasma below needs no accolades it doesnt have already

I'm used to the Sony and Samsung tax and most of us pay it willingly over the low spend rubbish but the smart money always spends at Q4 or following January prices
before product runs out

When was the last time you saw a spendy $57,000.00 Vizio RGB OLED professional color grading monitor for broadcasters and studios like a special professional Sony RGB OLED panel Sony Pro Trimaster they use ?

I think mits is gone and Hisense is coming to get the Vizio store front company with better TV's up to HDR OLED they actually make and make OLED HDR panels for .

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David Katzmaier ranked the 2015 M series very highly, and in fact the only set that outranked it overall was OLED from LG.
I don't think they always get LCD right. Cnet doesn't put any TV Test data out beyond a calibration report and usually the wrong settings to validate or disprove a conclusion or value bias they may have .

CBS wholly is not the paragon of integrity these days that it once at least pretended to be since Edward Murrow .

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Your old Sony Grand WEGA can't touch the Mits DLP either.
I don't know what slim Sony XBR Grand Wega DLP you ever saw but nobody that mattered ever sold or raved about a mits shopping channel DLP back then. DLP was never all that anyway.

People only bought mits DLP TV because they were comparatively a low spend or they didn't know any better,same for Vizio LCD.

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lacks HDR, which is of no use for this particular picture source.
Wholly not true a wide color gamut HDR TV has much better color volume and better color and primaries within and beyond Bt 709 boundaries .

A conventional Blue LED Yellow Phosphor treated LED lamp panel can't touch an HDR WCG panel on any content .

Only Blue gets bt709 boundary close on those and skews all the other colors or the color volume depending on the calibrations but it's never right at adequate color volume and saturation in the color volume anyway regular LED panels ain't all that but at least Samsung saturates them them plausibly well to compensate for the rubbish Blue LED Yellow phosphor light spectrum on their 4K SDR TV's and they are the only ones

Decent 4K HDR wide color gamut 10 bit panel LCD TVs ,Plasma and OLED and old school CCFL LCD make way better color than conventional Blue LED Yellow phosphor treated LED lamp panels

^^^^^ vis a vis a very poor white light spectrum from Blue Yellow phosphor treated LED that can not approach Red or Green bt 709 boundaries like an HDR WCG panel can pass altogether and leave bt 709 behind on any content if you set it right or just let it hit the bt709 boundaries with good color volume a regular LED TV can't make .

The cure is WCG HDR LCD ,Plasma ,HDR OLED ,old 1080p CCFL to a lesser extent

Don't feel bad I got hosed on a 2013 Sony and LG 1080p LED/LCD set here but this 2015 WCG HDR 4K Sony XBR in my sig was the cure in here at 12 months not a minute too soon and Sony makes better color than Vizio and LG LCD.

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Falcons pull up a seat next to Hillary...
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"I knew you'd say that"...*BLAM!*
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At least GA. is on the right side of History
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They updated the Brady commercial. Roger that.

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It's A 28-NE 20 in the 4th and my wife leaves the room, shouting back to hold the program until she gets back. I punch pause and pick up the iPad, open it up to Drudge and the headline in red is Atlanta 28 - New England 20. Because I left my recording about 30 minutes behind, I figured the game had ended and the score was going to finish out 28-20, so when the wife came back I did not mention I had chanced on the final score so her enjoyment would not be ruined. About that time Julio Jones makes his fantastic catch on the NE 20, and when they managed to screw that possesion up and punted, I knew it was going to play out without further score...right? Then...what the hell, Brady drives them 91 yards scores, gets the two to tie and goes on to win. S-U-R-P-R-I-S-E, even bigger than if I had watched it naturally.

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Normally I hate on the Patriots and Mr Brady, but you can't help but want to be witness to historic achievements, so I was for the Pats this time. So of course naturally it looked like they were going to lose by the time it reached half-time. I was like "Really? How many quaterbacks even get to play in one Superbowl, and this is your chance to make it 5 championships, and this is what we get?"

...I guess they just wanted to make it interesting lol

Hats off to Atlanta though for a good game, but ultimately I think those defensive penalties did them in...you can't give the Pats yards.
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Loved the game (obviously) but I thought James White deserved the game MVP.
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Ugh, just no. One game is not a sample size. Historically, before the new rule, when ANY score ended the game, 40% of teams receiving the OT kickoff won on the opening drive - but those teams still only won 51% overall; if the old rule didn't give them an unfair advantage, then the newer rule certainly doesn't.

The last thing the NFL needs is the NCAA garbage OT rule.
Agree 100%. If you want to win, just do your job, defense.
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If that doesn't settle the debate about who is the best QB ever, then I don't know what more can be done.

That Edelman catch ranks as one of the best, if not the best, ever.

I wonder how many went to bed thinking the game was over, only to wake up to the incredible news. Mind-blowing!
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I'm sorry, but an overtime rule that allows any team to lose without even touching the ball relies too much on chance deciding the game, i.e. a coin flip. I'm not saying the college rules need to be transferred to the pros, but both teams need an opportunity to touch the ball on offense. Or, at least enough time provided in the overtime period to allow both teams to have a reasonable shot at touching the ball, then if still tied, sudden death.

Just my opinion, and it would be the same regardless of who won. I've always hated this rule, both before and after the "touchdown" modification.
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They updated the Brady commercial. Roger that.

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I love it! I also can't believe he did that before the game. So un-Patriot like.

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If that doesn't settle the debate about who is the best QB ever, then I don't know what more can be done.
It'll quiet it but there will always be haters. I was reading through user comments on some ESPN stories and there were already people saying the Patriots didn't win, it was the Falcons that choked and Brady is still a cheater. The Falcons did choke but someone had to throw those passes and lead that comeback.

What's sickening is that I saw a couple of comments attacking his mother, who looks like she's going through chemo.
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I'm just happy I don't have to hear Old C rubbing it in. Pretty good game for a system QB.
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I agree with others: Penalties on crucial plays destroyed the Falcons. Especially on that 2 point conversion. Good win for the Patriots.
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The best team always wins, that's why they keep score.

Religion, race, color, creed...whatever.
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I'm just happy I don't have to hear Old C rubbing it in. Pretty good game for a system QB.
I wouldn't have rubbed it in and explain why. We've always lived in a world of confabulation and nobody is going to change anyone's minds. You''ll always believe that the Pat's won fair and square and it's just not football that cheats it's almost everything we know about.

Nothing has changed my mind about Brady.

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What's sickening is that I saw a couple of comments attacking his mother, who looks like she's going through chemo.
Most of us have seen a family member or know someone with this disease. Empathy is what the world needs more here than ever.
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Congrats on the win! Serves me right for not believing in Brady!
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Which just proves the point that you don't base your comments on any sort of reality when it comes to Brady or the Patriots.

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Congrats on the win! Serves me right for not believing in Brady!

Pretty darn close after 265 games.


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Which just proves the point that you don't base your comments on any sort of reality when it comes to Brady or the Patriots.

You mean the certain (bank on it) reality that his knee was shot, or that he was out of gas, or..... there's a few more. That reality?
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