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The press release is here .

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Customers who subscribe to the DIRECTV local channels package in CBS and/or FOX O&O markets will receive this programming free of charge.

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yeppie.......... wooo hoooo..... gosh...... sounds great... more major cable networks please.....

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A similar agreement with FOX is expected to be reached in the next several weeks.

I wonder which side of the table Rupert sits on? :D

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This is great news for me. My local FOX station is the only station that gives me any trouble at all and now I can get this station via DirecTV soon. Oh my local station is WTVT-DT which is in Tampa and is one of the O&O stations and could be our only O&O station.
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OK, so I will ask it, what are the FOX O&O DMA's?
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New York WNYW 1


Los Angeles KTTV 2


Chicago WFLD 3


Philadelphia WTXF-TV 4


Boston WFXT 6


Dallas KDFW 7


Dallas KDFI 7


Washington DC WTTG 8


Detroit WJBK 9


Atlanta WAGA 10


Houston KRIV 11


Tampa WTVT 13


Cleveland WJW 15


Phoenix KSAZ-TV 17


Denver KDVR 18


St. Louis KTVI 21


Kansas City WDAF-TV 31


Milwaukee WITI 33


Salt Lake City KSTU 36


Birmingham WBRC 39


Memphis WHBQ-TV 40


Greensboro WGHP 47


Austin KTBC 61
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Great, Baltimore MD has a crappy Sinclair Faux station. Which means no Fox Widescreen for us.

Once again I say thank goodness I still have an antenna that reaches WTTG.
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Guess I need to move!
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What does that mean for those of us in Dallas, that have two Fox channels listed? KDFI-27 doesn't have any network programming.
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This is good news for me until my semi-local Sinclair owned Fox affiliate powers up and broadcasts the network's digital goods. On the down side, it looks as if this won't be done in time for the NFC playoffs.

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Well if you are in the DMA of one of the two stations than you would get the national feed of FOX and it doesn't matter what your local FOX shows because you would either get the FOX LA or NY national feed. The only thing you might miss would be local sports and news shows and you would just watch those in SD.
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A similar agreement with FOX is expected to be reached in the next several weeks.

I wonder which side of the table Rupert sits on? :D
He sits at the HEAD of the table for this one. :)
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it was bound to happen eventually....... he is the head... the man cheese....

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From what I can tell, FOX9 (KMSP) in Minneapolis is a Fox O&O as well. It was acquired from Clear Channel in exchange for a Salt Lake City station and a San Antonio station in 2001 (see http://www.newscorp.com/feg/fegpress/news_145.html).

Good news for DirecTV subscribers who get Minneapolis locals, as they'll have HD feeds of both CBS and FOX in the near future. We can only hope that more networks will follow suit and make HD feeds available to people in their O&O markets.
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CRAP! How about offering this to everyone until the transition is complete. Hell, I TiVo all of this (or will be in April)... What lost ad revenue? Isn't that what the fast forward button is for?
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Again, somebody tell my why Murdoch buying DirecTV was allegedly going to be a death knell for HD? Where have those naysayers disappeared to?

This is getting harder now. I was closing in on dumping D* since Comcast has added a few new HD channels - including the four major locals along with Max and Starz - but I guess I need to wait a little longer to see how this is all going to play out.
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Just a guess, sangs. But I imagine they started putting a sock in it about the time Fox said they'd go HD next fall. ;)

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I can get channel 5 with occasional dropouts in Baltimore. Here is the irony behind the move:

All O & O Fox stations are obligated to pass the high resolution signal by order of Fox. Others do not (including Sinclair). So, if you are in an O & O area, you can get the channel even though you don't need it.

I know that this does benefit people who do not have a local Fox affiliate in range.

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Great, Baltimore MD has a crappy Sinclair Faux station. Which means no Fox Widescreen for us.

Once again I say thank goodness I still have an antenna that reaches WTTG.
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This is just getting too nuts too follow......

I went to the distant locals stations web page and put my address in and saw that I am basically grade b for all locals in NYC and in Connecticut. I know it said on the right hand side that I most likely not get a waiver for grade B, but how does this play out for HD if my CT locals are either not broadcasting, or broadcasting with the power from a 75 watt lightbulb???

I guess I am venting since nobody here really knows, but with the given info above (grade B stuff) anybody care to make any guesses what this means for a guy like me since my CT locals for CBS and FOX are broadcasting low power and not all respectively.

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Just a guess, sangs. But I imagine they started putting a sock in it about the time Fox said they'd go HD next fall. ;)
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Which web page are you talking about? What qualifies as a Grade B signal?

Do we think DirecTV will do this with their National NBC and ABC feeds?
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My local FOX station (KTVU - Oakland/San Francisco) doesn't insert local channels on its DT transmission - we just get an animated logo for a few minutes during the local channels slot.

Do you think they'll accept a waiver on the grounds that they're not loosing any net viewership of their commericals on the DT station vs. the national feed? Or is that being too logical?
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Just a guess, sangs. But I imagine they started putting a sock in it about the time Fox said they'd go HD next fall. ;)
Yes ... but some of us still have "The Sinclair Factor" to deal with. So all of this still means squat for many ;)

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So is the reason they can do this for the O&O because all of the profits from advertising go to the same place? Won't they still have less revenue overall, because less people will be watching more focused local spots that I would think would generate more dollars per market?
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scottte,

Are the CT locals from Hartford? Actually, it probably doesn't matter, since I don't think CBS or FOX have any O&O stations in CT.

From what you are reporting (i.e. you can receive grade B signals for all locals both in NYC and in CT), you probably won't qualify for HD networks. From what I understand, even if you are in the NYC DMA, you would need a waiver from any non-O&O affiliate to qualify.

For you, I think it looks bleak.
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scottte,

Are the CT locals from Hartford? Actually, it probably doesn't matter, since I don't think CBS or FOX have any O&O stations in CT.

From what you are reporting (i.e. you can receive grade B signals for all locals both in NYC and in CT), you probably won't qualify for HD networks. From what I understand, even if you are in the NYC DMA, you would need a waiver from any non-O&O affiliate to qualify.

For you, I think it looks bleak.
I agree as I am in the same situation. What a disaster they offer these new channels and because of some secondary market I am screwed. I do have an antenna but not thrilled with the dependency of it I was hoping this would solve my problem.
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They need to focus on getting channels that everyone can recieve rather than what the minority can get. I would like them to get CinemaxHD, StarzHD, and TMCHD before they get local HD.

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Great, Baltimore MD has a crappy Sinclair Faux station. Which means no Fox Widescreen for us.

Once again I say thank goodness I still have an antenna that reaches WTTG.
Amen. Pisses me off because I am an Eagles fan and of course the only damned game Fox carried last week was the Eagles. BUT!
I am in the Philadelphia region for DirectTv so I could add locals to my package and get all Philly via DirecTv and all Baltimore via Antenna. Hummmm. Best of both worlds. :)
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Amen to that as well..



I really want STARZ HD........cinemax i can hold off on until because they play the same movies as HBO.

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I have the D* HD package. But I also have a rooftop antenna pulling in CBS (solid) and FOX (marginal) here in L.A. Does this mean I will have to subscribe to D* locals channels to get their CBS/FOX feeds? Why can't they just include them in their HD package lineup?
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