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post #1 of 49 Old 03-28-2004, 07:23 PM - Thread Starter
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Did they forget to pay the light bill? The indoor scenes give me a headache.
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post #2 of 49 Old 03-28-2004, 07:40 PM
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It is either your TV or your provider.

I am here in Chicago and it looks great.
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I agree with Tom. I've always thought that it was too dark but was afraid to say anything lest Joey Four fingers pays me a visit!
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Too dark, and seems to be shot through a yellowish filter. All other HD channels look great, with brilliant color.
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Doesn't look too dark to me. Get your TV calibrated, if you haven't already. I think the PQ is terrific. Compares to CSI
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Sopranos in HDTV darker than normal with many indoor scenes. "6 Feet Under" before that was fine and "Deadwood" afterwards was fine. Sopranos in SD looks fine. Probably not your set.

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how many times can this topic be discussed? sheesh!
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how many times can this topic be discussed? sheesh!
Amen! Four episodes and at least that many threads following each episode concerning "Too Dark!" complaints. It's like a broken record. Just add onto the old threads. Same thing following every episdoe of The West Wing. Turn up your brightness or watch the SD version then.
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what kills me is these guys who say, "it's your tv" and crap like that. if the show before and the show after arent too dark, dosent that tell you something?

another thing, why reply to a post only to say something like "we've talked about this already. just ignore it if you feel it's a waste of time.

why bother with a reply at all?

ok, back to your scheduled program.

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another thing, why reply to a post only to say something like "we've talked about this already. just ignore it if you feel it's a waste of time.

why bother with a reply at all?
Ask Ken H how much he and the people that run AVS enjoy combing through repetitive topics that bring nothing new to a debate/topic/issue. Then you'll get your answer. And that's just from their perspective.
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[quote]Originally posted by sangs
Ask Ken H how much he and the people that run AVS enjoy combing through repetitive topics that bring nothing new to a debate/topic/issue. Then you'll get your answer. And that's just from their perspective. [/QUOTE

it's this kind of mindless complaining that kills me, how many times are you going to keep replying, all the while complaining about "repetitive topics"?

why dont you find bigger fish to fry, surely there has to be something more pressing than this. lol

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The least one could do is post in one of the existing threads instead of generating a new one every week ;) :D

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PS: Another reason some folks get frustrated with these threads, is because the shows in question look great on their calibrated displays in properly lit viewing enviroments.

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Sopranos is supposed to be dark, that's how they want it to look. If you had an HD CRT you'd understand... ;)
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Like Jeremy says, Sopranos is about a group of shady characters, so it's supposed to be a little dark. If you don't like what the director intended, turn up your brightness or watch something else.

I'm betting some folks here have their calibrations (grey scale?) a bit off too, which makes the darker picture of Sopranos unpleasantly dark.
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I'm betting some folks here have their calibrations (grey scale?) a bit off too, which makes the darker picture of Sopranos unpleasantly dark.
I agree. True the show is dark, but I know that's how it's intended to be displayed and it's not as bothersome as some shows with all the intentional grain. *cough* CSI *cough*

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I've always thought Sopranos was the best looking film based HD I have seen so far ( Carnivale too ), and it still looks fine to me.
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Anyone ever stop and think that maybe they want to present the show this way, to set the tone of the show?
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I agree with setting a tone, but the topic isn't that the Sopranos is DARK. It is that the Sopranos is TOO DARK.

I had to turn my brightness up to 100% on my HD CRT to get it to look watchable. The show is so dark that they are crushing the blacks. I would fix it by adjusting the gamma, but I cannot do that for HD, unfortunately.
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Don't know what ya'll are watchin but the Sopranos I watch is not too dark...I can see details in the darkest areas, the cinematography is excellent and the transfer is top notch.

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The Sopranos is not too dark on my display. But if it's too dark on your display, then that bites. :mad:
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Yeah, but the other shows are fine, so I must say that Sopranos is too dark. CSI is a little dark on my display, but not TOO dark. To fix Sopranos, I end up getting a bit of a washed out look.
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Same ole story. Proper lighting and display setup should solve your problem. The shows look fine to me. It doesn't appear to me by the way show is shot that it is supposed to be as bright as a summer afternoon.

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I agree wholeheartedly. I watched both on my projector and my HDTV and it is very dark, you cannot even make people's faces.
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Another vote for too dark, and my display is calibrated just fine, thank you.

Yeah yeah, they're supposed to be "shady" characters. That doesn't mean you have to take the term literally! You can shoot a scene in a dark environment and still have good shadow detail. The Sopranos HD broadcasts don't. Blacks are significantly crushed and the image is muddy.

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there's two kinds of people here. those who admit the show is dark and those who refuse to admit it because they see it as an insult to their tv or screen.

my screen is as good as the nexts guys but i have no problem admitting the show is dark.

Just say no to cable.
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I had people over to watch it in HD on my crt pj and everyone of them commentd on the darkness. I had to change the channel to DiscoveryHD so they didnt get a bad impression of what HDTV and my PJ are capable of.

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there's two kinds of people here. those who admit the show is dark and those who refuse to admit it because they see it as an insult to their tv or screen.
Or conversely, those who don't see the show as too dark and those who refuse to admit it because they see it as an insult to their tv or screen. ;)
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Looks fine to me. It's funny because every time I read one of these threads I say to myself that on the following Sunday I'll make a point to specifically judge brightness or lack thereof, but I never end up even thinking about it afterall. It never even crosses my mind. I just sit down, enjoy the show, and dont come away thinking anything about the technical aspects.

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I had people over to watch it in HD on my crt pj and everyone of them commentd on the darkness. I had to change the channel to DiscoveryHD so they didnt get a bad impression of what HDTV and my PJ are capable of.
there it is, right there.

just switch channels to another hd program and boom, case closed.

Just say no to cable.
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there's two kinds of people here. those who admit the show is dark and those who refuse to admit it because they see it as an insult to their tv or screen.

my screen is as good as the nexts guys but i have no problem admitting the show is dark.
My screen is fine. The show looks the same as always. It's not too dark. But thanks for assuming that that there's a problem with me or my set. Good work.
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