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post #1261 of 12070 Old 06-09-2006, 11:14 AM
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Central PA Comcast plans the following HD additions by end of year:

UHD
Food HD
Travel HD
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Fantastic, if it happens. Although I also want MHD.

Of course, FIOS will have these, too.

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Keep an eye out for the removal of analog channels to the digital tier only. That is done, in part, to free up bandwidth to add HD channels. Two HD channels per one analog channel space for now.

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Keep an eye out for the removal of analog channels to the digital tier only. That is done, in part, to free up bandwidth to add HD channels. Two HD channels per one analog channel space for now.

That's what has to happen in 550 systems as there is no room, or very little, to do ADS. I can see some resistance to moving the analog to digital though from Standard package subs, now they'll need a STB to get those channels, something many Basic and Standard package subs are not fond of.
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It'll be interesting to see what they pull from analog...and how much it's noticed!

Interesting to see Travel HD as a possibility. I can pick it up via my QAM but it is not a channel I pick up via CC or my DVR currently.

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It'll be interesting to see what they pull from analog...and how much it's noticed!

Interesting to see Travel HD as a possibility. I can pick it up via my QAM but it is not a channel I pick up via CC or my DVR currently.

You are getting Travel HD currently using your QAM? For how long have you been getting it?
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Not Travel HD...just the Travel channel.

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Not Travel HD...just the Travel channel.

Ah.
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ESPN2HD showed up on Channel 203 in Naperville, Illinois either late last night or earlier this morning. Hopefully, this is permanent.
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To my surprise, I turned on my Comcast box today and got ESPN2HD here in Bristol, CT (Home of ESPN). I really hope this isn't only for the World Cup and it stays for good.
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It'll be interesting to see what they pull from analog...and how much it's noticed!

Interesting to see Travel HD as a possibility. I can pick it up via my QAM but it is not a channel I pick up via CC or my DVR currently.


I notice today that Comcast moved GSN from the Analog lineup to Digital lineup, just about the same time they put ESPN2-HD
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ESPN2-HD was on channel 203 in Northern NJ, but after the WORLD CUP game it is off!

Thanks Comcast, you are the best cable company in the world, with your high prices and lack of .....nevermind.
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lah5135, check out my last post in the sticky thread on ESPN2HD.

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Central PA Comcast plans the following HD additions by end of year:

UHD
Food HD
Travel HD
NGHD
HGTVHD

Several Cable Networks are moving from SD to HD, like TBS, Lifetime, FX. to name a few.... by end of year / start of next year....

Source?

Is "Travel HD" a planned HD version of The Travel Channel (which would make it a sister network of Discovery HD), or a different network I haven't heard of yet?
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I like much of INHD but hell some of the movies they show they must have bought for a buck - why waste HD on that old Elvis Cowboy movie, can't recall the name but it was easily the worst movie he ever made next to Clambake...

Thanks for saying exactly what I've said, but unfortunately, many here seem to like having crap movies waste space on an otherwise decent full-time HD channel (one of only 3 by the way).

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For the last time, please take all posts about ESPN2 HD to the topic found here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=686272

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Keep an eye out for the removal of analog channels to the digital tier only. That is done, in part, to free up bandwidth to add HD channels. Two HD channels per one analog channel space for now.

They no longer have a digital "tier" here (S. Jersey); it's all digital simulcast. The analog channels are history for those of us w/digital boxes.

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Maxman, they are taking them off analog so analog only cable subscribers with "cable ready" TV's will not be able to view those channels any longer. This is what I meant by a digital tier, i.e digital cable. This is one way to free up enough bandwidth to, in part, add more HD. Comcast''s master plan is by 2009 to move all but about 20 channels from analog to digital which will free up more than enough bandwidth for all new HD channels that come out. This will be done on a gradual basis as contracts allow.

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Here's some Dish news for those who've threatened to switch:

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/news/200...network_ex.php

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adding ESPN 2 HD wont cause our bill to go up, will it?
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Maxman, they are taking them off analog so analog only cable subscribers with "cable ready" TV's will not be able to view those channels any longer. This is what I meant by a digital tier, i.e digital cable. This is one way to free up enough bandwidth to, in part, add more HD. Comcast''s master plan is by 2009 to move all but about 20 channels from analog to digital which will free up more than enough bandwidth for all new HD channels that come out. This will be done on a gradual basis as contracts allow.

The range they're talking about is 20-40 (from Multichannel News):
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Asked if Comcast would ever get rid of the analog tier altogether or if in the future, the cable operator would always have some form of an analog tier, Roberts said that internally, company executives have debated that 20-40 analog channels would remain until at least 2011.

That sounds like a lot of room, but check out the graph near the top of this article from CED. Even while analog goes down over the next few years, net bandwidth demands will actually rise thanks to expansion in VOD, phone, Internet and commercial services. There's also some HD expansion factored in, but it'll be interesting to see if it's enough for cable to compete with what satellite and FIOS will have by the end of '07, or whether there will be a large and growing "channel gap".
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Here's some Dish news for those who've threatened to switch:

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/news/200...network_ex.php

"HGTV HD, which is exclusively broadcast by DISH Network,..."

This is not true. There are some smaller cable systems that have it, such as Buckey Cable.

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Comcast''s master plan is by 2009 to move all but about 20 channels from analog to digital...

My understanding is that in 2009 ('10?) analog will be shut off altogether. What's the story w/the 20 channels you mentioned? Thanks for all the "heads-up" info, by the way!

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Bob, I know what Comcast is planning. In addition to reducing the analog tier, they will also build out to 1 GIG on their systems, at least some of them. While they are not moving as fast as I would like and they are giving this a lot of thought and are moving to meet the challenge that Directv will pose for them in 2007. I had read the articles you posted before but they really don't tell the whole story about what is going on behind the scenes. I wish they would not waste as much space as they do for VoIP which I have no interest in. Our cable was out for half the day a few days ago. If I had VoIP, I would hav ebeen out of business.

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Maxman, analog cable not analog OTA broadcasting.

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Maxman, analog cable not analog OTA broadcasting.

I need some clarification, please...

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I need some clarification, please...

The Feb 2009 date for analog shutoff only applies to Over The Air broadcasters and doesn't apply to cable. What the cable companies are saying is that they will probably continue to supply certain channels in analog format (the 20 channels mentioned) to support those viewers who want to continue to use their current analog televisions until those TVs die.
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Got it, ATSCguy. Thanks!

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Bob, I know what Comcast is planning. In addition to reducing the analog tier, they will also build out to 1 GIG on their systems, at least some of them.

That's good to hear. Going out to 1Gz would definitely help a system stay competetive.
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espn2 does little for me. anyone know if they are working on contracts with hgtv and foodnextwork or NGEOHD? these three would be fantastic additions!

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in hopes to sound ungrateful:

espn2 does little for me. anyone know if they are working on contracts with hgtv and foodnextwork or NGEOHD? these three would be fantastic additions!

It's funny how different we all are. NONE of these channes including ESPNHD2 do much for me, I want HDNET and MHD.

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