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post #181 of 1851 Old 02-04-2005, 06:53 PM
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Convenient timing, Mark.
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Has anyone heard anything new on any progress that Time Warner and Sinclair may be having ?
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Originally posted by leewcraft
Nashville's WZTV is on Comcast as of the last hour (Sinclair-owned Fox affiliate). Unbelievable!

Confimed. Now all we need is the WB and UPN affiliates they own/operate in this market too.

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Comcast caved last year to CBS Viacom right before the SuperBowl. Guess they did it again. Still the customers win.

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Forgive me for shouting, but...

FOX45 HD IS ON COMCAST IN BALTIMORE CITY!

It better be. This is Sinclair's home territory.

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Here's the official statement:

http://www.sbgi.net/misc/comcast_digital.pdf

"Carriage of the FOX digital signals should begin immediately in the following Comcast markets: Baltimore (WBFF-TV), Pittsburgh (WPGH-TV), Nashville (WZTVTV), Richmond (WRLH-TV), Charleston, SC (WTAT-TV), and Paducah, KY (KBSITV)."
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We got Fox here in Pittsburgh too! I'm off to Jacksonville tomorrow, but I hope when I get back I'll have a Philly victory DVR'd in HD. Thanks to Comcast and Sinclair!

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Originally posted by Sevenfeet
Confimed. Now all we need is the WB and UPN affiliates they own/operate in this market too.

Same here with WB in Baltimore.

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Comcast caved last year to CBS Viacom right before the SuperBowl. Guess they did it again. Still the customers win.


?? i'm pretty syre comcast had CBS before last january. I remember watching games in HD on CBS that december.
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Comcast caved last year to CBS Viacom right before the SuperBowl. Guess they did it again. Still the customers win.

Where did it say Comcast agreed to pay $0.50? From Sinclair's own statement the deal is not final, which indicated to me Sinclair did not get what they asked for and they still want to work on it more, or else the deal would have been final.

But of course I am happy for those poor Superbowl cable HD souls.
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They're talking about CBS owned and operated stations. We got CBS before that in Nashville because they were an independently-owned station who negotiated their own carriage deal with Comcast.
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If they agreed in principle, then they've basically agreed on the amount - we just don't know at what price.
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?? i'm pretty syre comcast had CBS before last january. I remember watching games in HD on CBS that december.

I believe it was Dec 22nd when CBS started.

I hope they get a final agreement with Sinclair for carriage. I really wanted Fox for baseball since I'm sure they will be showing some?many?all? Saturday games in HD, plus the playoffs, plus NFL etc.

This is great!

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What I really wanted was NASCAR!

I'm going to check out every HD show on FOX this week.

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Great for you Comcast guys. Congrats. Now if if they would only agree to terms with Adelphia.
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It did not state that...

a quote is:

"Our policy requiring compensation in some form has not changed," said Barry Faber, Sinclair vice president and general counsel.

Balt. Sun Article

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Originally posted by jacmyoung
Where did it say Comcast agreed to pay $0.50? From Sinclair's own statement the deal is not final, which indicated to me Sinclair did not get what they asked for and they still want to work on it more, or else the deal would have been final.

But of course I am happy for those poor Superbowl cable HD souls.


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Any word on an agreement between Time Warner and Sinclair ?
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Originally posted by MisterDTV
It did not state that...

a quote is:

"Our policy requiring compensation in some form has not changed," said Barry Faber, Sinclair vice president and general counsel.

Balt. Sun Article

Sure 0.05 is compensation too. Comcast never said they totally reject the idea of compensation, just not giving Sinclair special treatment.

This much we know is Comcast is not going to raise price because of the deal, so the compensation can't be too great or else, you know how cables are. Allowing Comcast to insert some commercials on Sinclair stations can be a very reasonable request in exchange for the compensation for example.

At least we finally agree on some thing, we all consider this good news.
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Sure 0.05 is compensation too. Comcast never said they totally reject the idea of compensation, just not giving Sinclair special treatment.


Exactly, and "compensation in some form" is considerably different than 0.50 per sub cash. It appears Comcast stuck to their guns and Sinclair was the first one to blink.
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Yeh, right

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Originally posted by keenan
Exactly, and "compensation in some form" is considerably different than 0.50 per sub cash. It appears Comcast stuck to their guns and Sinclair was the first one to blink.


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In someone elses court...no word...

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Any word on an agreement between Time Warner and Sinclair ?


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Yeh, right

I knew that would get a response..

Unless someone spills the beans we can only assume what would be logical..going from "0.50 a sub" to "some form of compensation" indicates a change in Sinclair's position...
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As long as Comcast does not raise my fee, MisterDTV can brag as much as he wants, I am happy that you are happy.
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Well, there we're probably negotiations and both parties seem to have worked something out. That's great for everyone...Comcast and Sinclair. Who knows who got the "better" deal, but more importantly, they both got a deal they could live with. Sinclair probably moved some, and so did Comcast, isn't that what reading the statement suggest?

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So what does this mean for the other Sinclair stations.

Will we in the Sacramento area get KOVR (our CBS affiliate which is currently owned by Sinclair) in HD on Comcast BEFORE Viacom takes over the station?
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No doubt it was my email to Sinclair that brought about these successful negotiations.

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I'm curious what the "long term" framework that they agreed upon with Comcast includes that apparently the other cable companies are resistant to. Sub-channel carriage?
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No doubt it was my email to Sinclair that brought about these successful negotiations.

On behalf of everyone at AVS forum, our sincere thanks and appreciation Marcus ...we couldn't have done it without you ...

Hopefully the boys at Sinclair and Comcast won't try and take all the credit...
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If they agreed in principle, then they've basically agreed on the amount - we just don't know at what price.

I guarantee you Comcast is not paying cash for Sinclair's HD signals. Both sides will probably remain mum about it, so we may never know for sure.

No doubt, Comcast agreed to carry both Sinclair's analog and digital signals through at least 12/31/2008, maybe longer. Comcast also probably agreed to some sort of multicasting carriage-- a digital sub-channel or two that Sinclair has not launched yet but plans to sell advertising on, thus making money off of Comcast that way.

Comcast also surely agreed to the traditional advertising buy/exchange/sell that has always occured in all retransmission consent deals, and probably at advertising rates that are increased beyond what Comcast currently buys/exchanges for Sinclair's analog channels.

There likely is a side deal regarding VOD which may or may not involve a little cash.

But anyone who understands the cable industry and Comcast knows that Comcast is not agreeing to pay cash for Sinclair's HD signal.
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Originally posted by MisterDTV
"Our policy requiring compensation in some form has not changed," said Barry Faber, Sinclair vice president and general counsel.

Now I have just read this quote. This proves to me that Comcast did not pay cash.

"Compensation in some form" has always occurred for analog signals in the form of advertising buys. So what we have here = increased advertsing buys, multicast carriage, VOD rights, but definitely not cash compensation.
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