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post #1 of 8 Old 12-01-2000, 06:40 PM - Thread Starter
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WXIX-DT 29 in Cincinnati now is able to pass thru FOX's 720p feed. I tuned in "Anastasia" tonight and watched as the local engineering staff flipped the encoder thru several video modes. After a while I called the FOX19 Newsroom and asked to be transferred to Master Control. The WXIX engineer said "We were just standing here comparing the video formats and the guy next to me commented that we are probably driving the one viewer that can see this crazy." He said that they just got the digital network connected Thursday.

Current station programming standards specify operating with the "FOX" logo fully visible (on the side of 4:3 and under 16:9 video - yes, the dreaded full black surround letterbox). Unfortunately this produces 4:4 NTSC video. Hey, it's their second day, they'll catch on.
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This is wonderful news! Now if only WLWT-35 could pass Jay Leno and other HD feeds, Cincinnati local DT coverage will be perfect!

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Originally posted by Akenyon:
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Current station programming standards specify operating with the "FOX" logo fully visible (on the side of 4:3 and under 16:9 video - yes, the dreaded full black surround letterbox). Unfortunately this produces 4:4 NTSC video. Hey, it's their second day, they'll catch on.[/b]
The "Logos" are a FOX format, not a local station issue. That's the way FOX
feeds it to us.
Yes, it is 4:2:2 with an NTSC output..It also has 601 digital output..
Unfortunately, some use the NTSC rather than the 601 to feed the DTV.
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AK's right, but it sure beats CATV.
Widescreen looks good too, when we have it to pass on!
Hopefully, in Feb when FOX begins to transistion to full digital paths,
we'll see more.
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I saw this last night as well. Now we have three channels that give us good HD content from time to time. I guess I'll have to start giving Fox some of my viewing time.

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Fox does not do any HDTV, see this link.
http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/008117.html

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No, it's not HD, but the 16:9 feed is still fairly impressive. While I was on the phone with the guy in FOX19 master control there was a significant amount of discussion there about what was not visible on the NTSC feed, characters disappeared and key scene elements were missing.
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Fellas,

I'm glad to see that you guys noticed this as well. I'd been in touch with the Chief Engineer at FOX for some time about the problems with them not displaying FOX shows in 16:9. I was soooooooooooo damn overjoyed to finally see the fruits of their labors this past Sunday. Malcolm and The X-Files looked great. The signal was also very clean of artifacts and the signal strength actually jumped up a little.

This is some correspondence I'd had with Paul (Chief Engineer) over the past couple of weeks.

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Mr. Lambert,
I have spoken to FOX network about the shows that are sopposedly
produced in true 16:9. I have checked some of these over the past few weeks
and comming through my processing equipment they appear to be 4:3 pictures
stuck into a 16:9 format. In other words what I am seeing is a 4:3 picture
with black side bars that fills up a 16:9 screen. If true 16:9 video is
comming from the FOX satellite receiver my equipment should recognize it and
pass the true 16:9 picture. It is possible my equipment is not configured
correctly by until I can verify that what I am putting into my processing
equipment is a true 16:9 480p signal I assume it is working correctly.
Over the past few weeks we have experienced several equipment failures
with the DTV signal. All of the problems have been corrected and since
Monday morning 11/27 we have been back on air full time with the DTV signal.
In addition we have had intermittant problems with regular FOX NTSC
satellite signals. FOX technicians were here at the station Monday of this
week. They have realigned their equipment and they feel the problem is
corrected. Since this was an intermittant problem only time will tell.

Paul K Smith
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Troy,
I just took a look at our processing equipment and sure enough someone
had changed the format converter to the 14:9 mode. This is why your picture
was stretched. I will be coming in to the station this Sunday to watch the
X-Files just to see if it does truly come down in 16:9 ( wall to wall
picture). If it truly is 16:9 I will make sure our equipment passes the
correct format. All of the FOX equipment seems to be working much better
since they were here. Thank you for your patience.

Paul K Smith
Chief Engineer
WXIX-TV
I'm so glad, things are looking good for FOX. Now if we can just get Channel 5 (NBC) to get their act together.

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