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post #61 of 2253 Old 09-21-2005, 06:28 AM
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Thoughts on the 2nd episode? I thought it was a bit weaker than the pilot. It's banking on the jump scene stuff to be scary each week, which will get old, fast.
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It'll be interesting to see how this compares to the new Night Stalker. The premise seems very similar to the original series.
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I haven't watched the 2nd episode yet, but is this show really in 5.1? I was looking around here and on various websites but couldn't find anything definate. I know our local UPN can pass 5.1 for the WB shows.

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Second episode definitely not as good as the first. It wasn't terrible, though.

However, it did really look like crap. Was it shot on DV? It had a really "video-ish" appearance.

The sound is DD 5.1 here in Boston over Comcast cable, but the audio quality has really sucked on both episodes in comparison to all of the other HD networks (I don't watch anything else on the WB so can't compare to other shows on the same net).

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thought 2nd episode was just heart wrenching, it was just bad. barely showed the monster plus the horrible acting by the girl

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They seem to be recycling all the Demons from "Charmed". Last week the woman in white and this week a wendigo, how original. I might give the show one more chance but they had better pull something good off next week.
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@ Matt L

How many original "bad things" can you think of to use as monsters that haven't already been used in one form or another in the history of TV?

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How many original "bad things" can you think of to use as monsters that haven't already been used in one form or another in the history of TV?

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Probably not many but then again I don't think he is the one being paid to do so.

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Anyone get last night's episode in HD? - if so, I've got to shoot off an email to our WB and make sure they don't screw up Smallville tomorrow.
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yep, all HD here last night
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HD on wb 17 in Phila, PA..... Demon was straight from an X FILES show...
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Well, appears as I truly am not a member of the demographic catered to here. This is just plain silly trash. The notion that these pseudo-hip presumed-to-be-young-hunks parading around in leather jackets (for the most part) and effortlessly and without challenge affecting guises ranging from psychologists to homeland security agents is just farcical. One imagines the writers themselves have faked their own IDs to prove majority status and gain entry to the studio lots and now have to merely to devise some tragedy or perilous situation, attach a monster to it, then send "the boys" off on their mission all while they miss Dad's insight and prowess terribly.

All could be forgiven if the sound quality was really outrageous -- I do kind of like the look of it (pure HD here in southern Cal, BTW) -- but sound is not outrageous. Limit of trajectory for me: halfway through the third episode.
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The fake ID thing is getting really old really fast, and the CGI in last night's episode was nothing short of terrible, but I thought the plot was decent in an X-Files sort of way. I like the character interaction and some of the dialogue.

The show is still hit or miss, but it has promise and I'll keep watching at least for a while.

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CityTV out of Canada had an entire segment in 4:3 last night.

Also, the colors were soft to non-existent. I had to force color to max on set to get it to look correct.



Yet commercials and station promos looked fine.



Is the show shot this way?
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Hmm, I still like the premise of the show but the execution(slow pace) is starting to leave a lot to be desired.

There's just no dynamic like there used to be between Mulder and Scully.
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Funny line though... near end in airport when he was on phone with flight attendent & had to make up a phony name fast on the spot... Hi I am James Hetfield ( he's Metallica's lead vocal/guitarist)

Anyone get the feeling they are trying to make $$ on some future soundtrack release? The music inserts seem almost forced.
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The WBis a force to reckon with on Tuesday with its underrated combination of veteran Gilmore Girls (Overnights: #4t, 5.0/ 8; Viewers: #5, 5.91 million; A18-49: #5, 2.5/ 7) and compatible lead-out Supernatural (Overnights: #5, 4.3/ 6; Viewers: #5, 5.27 million; A18-49: #5, 2.4/ 6). Both dramas were up over last week, and Supernatural is expected to be renewed for the remainder of the season at any given moment..
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And I got bashed on the 2nd page of this thread for suggesting that impersonating public officials to gather information would get old after a while...

I still like this show, but you have to suspend disbelief on a couple of points:

1) As before mentioned, can they continue to impersonate public officials every week?

2) With no jobs or explained source of income, how do they continue to pay for gas, hotel rooms, ariplane tickets, etc? Did their dad leave them some kind of family fortune? (Unlikely since dad has been doing the same thing for a number of years.)

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I guess I don't understand the bitterness everyone has towards the show. Yeah, it isn't as good of a storyline as "Lost" or such, but it is ok to just sit and watch. Unfortunately they took the old standby of "new episode, new town, new monster", but if you get confortable with that shallow plotline, it still offers mildly humorous dialog and the two main actors aren't bad. Plus there is normally a good looking chick in it from week to week.

Further, it isn't like it is a show that has been solid for multiple seasons only now to start sucking monkey balls thus leaving loyal views to feel betrayed (:cough: pregnant CIA field operative :cough: first two seasons rocked, rest of them suck :cough: ).

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And I got bashed on the 2nd page of this thread for suggesting that impersonating public officials to gather information would get old after a while...

I still like this show, but you have to suspend disbelief on a couple of points:

1) As before mentioned, can they continue to impersonate public officials every week?

2) With no jobs or explained source of income, how do they continue to pay for gas, hotel rooms, ariplane tickets, etc? Did their dad leave them some kind of family fortune? (Unlikely since dad has been doing the same thing for a number of years.)


Dean explained this to Sam in the Pilot. Dean and his dad were "still running that scam" where they use fake identities to obtain credit cards - therefore having/using money (for gas/lodging/travel/hunting, etc) but never having to pay on them.

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Dean explained this to Sam in the Pilot. Dean and his dad were "still running that scam" where they use fake identities to obtain credit cards - therefore having/using money (for gas/lodging/travel/hunting, etc) but never having to pay on them.

Yeah, I remember that, but you'd think that they can't keep on doing that indefinitely, either.

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One funny scripting screw-up: After exorcising the plane, the characters are returned to the same airport that they left from, despite being almost 40 minutes out. If the plane had experienced that sort of "mechanical failure", it would certainly have been directed to land at the nearest airport, not turned around and flown back over half an hour to where they came from.

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I guess I don't understand the bitterness everyone has towards the show. Yeah, it isn't as good of a storyline as "Lost" or such, but it is ok to just sit and watch. Unfortunately they took the old standby of "new episode, new town, new monster", but if you get confortable with that shallow plotline, it still offers mildly humorous dialog and the two main actors aren't bad. Plus there is normally a good looking chick in it from week to week.

Further, it isn't like it is a show that has been solid for multiple seasons only now to start sucking monkey balls thus leaving loyal views to feel betrayed (:cough: pregnant CIA field operative :cough: first two seasons rocked, rest of them suck :cough: ).

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I liked last night's episode. The 40 minute wham bam thank you ma'am format works for me just fine. Although the X-Files references are getting old fast. Can't wait for next week's monster. I predict witches!
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The credibility issue at hand is not even so much that these documents seemingly arise from vaporous origin -- no glimpse provided of the labors or mechanics at work (that would help, BTW) -- but that these two could be mistaken for what they portray themselves as.

Neither has the requisite age, bearing, demeanor, lingo or plain gravitas to pull any of this off without great, intense and ultimately, one would think, insurmountable scrutiny by officials of the Government such as FBI no less. That they could saunter unchallenged and unescorted into some heavily guarded hanger because they donned black suits and presented some Johnny Ranger token badge at a distance...? And they were supposed to be Homeland Security? -- sans appointment notification?, absent a confirmation email at least?

Oh, I sure hope the security protocols are much better than that! -- but I return to their appearance -- I'd take one look at these juveniles and really wonder what the heck is going on in the Government that THEY should be the appointed representatives or spearhead field agents -- I'd give that badge a good going over, then call every level of authority I knew to avert compromising my position on a horrendous misstep of the caliber it would be to accept these two as anything other than delinquents. OK, now if the conceit is that they are just so hunky that pretty chicks along the way are going to overlook the obvious and buy into what their selling, so be it, just not anyone else, please.
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That they could saunter unchallenged and unescorted into some heavily guarded hanger because they donned black suits and presented some Johnny Ranger token badge at a distance...?

Relax dude, they put the scene where they got black suits in so he could make the joke about looking like a Blues Brother.

And who is to say that the wreckage of a plane crash is gaurded all that heavily? I have seen documentaries about plane crashes where individuals looking at the parts only had to sign in at an office window with what looked like a librarian "minding the shop".

Again, if people are so bent out of shape over the lack of authenticity in a show where a pair of brothers going around beating up supernatural things, change the channel, or maybe ask the WB for a refund of the admission that you paid them...

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Relax dude, they put the scene where they got black suits in so he could make the joke about looking like a Blues Brother.

And who is to say that the wreckage of a plane crash is gaurded all that heavily? I have seen documentaries about plane crashes where individuals looking at the parts only had to sign in at an office window with what looked like a librarian "minding the shop".

Again, if people are so bent out of shape over the lack of authenticity in a show where a pair of brothers going around beating up supernatural things, change the channel, or maybe ask the WB for a refund of the admission that you paid them...

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Maybe I missed the Blues Brothers joke -- I assumed they were "riffing" on Men In Black -- as in Government agents all clad in black?

In any event, another assumption I make is that we are to take it that these two ARE operating in our world reality, albiet with Demons and such as part of it, correct? Perhaps I misapprehended and they are in another dimension which only faultily mirrors ours? I mean why interject IDs at all? Why not just have them amble in with a wave?

My point is that they, the show progenitors, ARE trying to present some vestige of reality here, and to me it is not working as well as might be expected.

The beating up of supernatural things, as in firing a pistol at a ghost, is another matter entirely, although an interesting avenue as well, but gotta go for now -- I will be back!
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I just like to enjoy the show. Who cares that they have to get fake id's everywhere. It is "Supernatural" that they are able to do all of these things.

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The fake ID thing is getting really old really fast, and the CGI in last night's episode was nothing short of terrible, but I thought the plot was decent in an X-Files sort of way. I like the character interaction and some of the dialogue.

The show is still hit or miss, but it has promise and I'll keep watching at least for a while.

Well, it was better than the CGI work on NBC's Surface.
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CityTV out of Canada had an entire segment in 4:3 last night.

Also, the colors were soft to non-existent. I had to force color to max on set to get it to look correct.





Is the show shot this way?

No, it's not. It does have a little more contrast than most shows, but the colors aren't not supposed to be washed out like that.
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My point is that they, the show progenitors, ARE trying to present some vestige of reality here, and to me it is not working as well as might be expected.

Again, we are not talking Oscars here. It is a one hour WB show on Tuesday nights, take it for what it is.

otoh, yes, the plane CGI was weak, I had to watch it upstairs on the 19" analog TV (storm caused the HD feed to be too fritzy) even then it was noticably poor.

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