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post #181 of 987 Old 11-09-2005, 11:04 AM
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I guess I am the only one bothered by the fact that BL, the only 100% legal/courtroom drama on TV, doesn't do as well it should in the ratings...it consistently gets the crap beat out of it by, L&O: SVU, which should be called O:SVU, because there is very little courtroom drama in it.

IMHO, David E Kelley can do as he pleases with expressing his views, as long as he gives us exciting courtroom drama (and perhaps gets ABC to stop screwing over the show as it has ever since it hit the airwaves!)
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That would probably explain it, being that I'm in Los Angeles.

Yeah, I watched it on the ABC west HD feed and had the same thing. It started out in HD but ended up with those dreaded side bars. I personally thought it was a great episode.

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Ever continuing descent into silliness. Gets worse by the week. This is NOT the Alan Shore that began so compellingly in The Practice and initially in BL. The whole "fear of clowns" thing was so ridiculously over-played as to be near embarrassing to watch. Especially that pitiful ending where Shore barely musters the nerve to approach the clown, using ever worsening, over-wrought body gestures to indicate his obvious discomfort. I almost expected them to pan down to a small puddle on the floor as he left the courtroom.

As for Kelley's politics, it's his show and while I find it somewhat disrespectful the way he sticks his jabs in so often ("the #1 Clown in Chief" comment about Bush), he is free to express his opinions. Sadly, he does so lately in a most inartful way that is fast losing what audience is left. And that doesn't even begin to discuss the truly horrid case about the cow-lover and his divorce. The absurdity level in this show has dragged it totally into the screwball ending that Ally McBeal faced. What a shame.

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Ever continuing descent into silliness. Gets worse by the week. This is NOT the Alan Shore that began so compellingly in The Practice and initially in BL. The whole "fear of clowns" thing was so ridiculously over-played as to be near embarrassing to watch. Especially that pitiful ending where Shore barely musters the nerve to approach the clown, using ever worsening, over-wrought body gestures to indicate his obvious discomfort. I almost expected them to pan down to a small puddle on the floor as he left the courtroom.

As for Kelley's politics, it's his show and while I find it somewhat disrespectful the way he sticks his jabs in so often ("the #1 Clown in Chief" comment about Bush), he is free to express his opinions. Sadly, he does so lately in a most inartful way that is fast losing what audience is left. And that doesn't even begin to discuss the truly horrid case about the cow-lover and his divorce. The absurdity level in this show has dragged it totally into the screwball ending that Ally McBeal faced. What a shame.

I completely disagree concerning Shore's reaction to clowns.

You are not going to believe this...but on Monday I delivered a lecture in my psychopathology class concerning phobic reactions...and a portion was devoted to the issue of clown phobia! Believe it or not Shore's reaction was similar to what I have seen in real life. Clown phobia is a real phenomena and the episode presented it is a pretty realistic light.

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I don't disagree with that and certainly have no reason to disbelieve you. I just found its inclusion useless and not overly funny. There are any number of odd phobias one could use and they still would be out of place. I assume it was a way to humanize an otherwise brilliant but ethically-challenged character. It just didn't do that for me and is typical of Kelley's use of extremes that he tends to overdo so often as his shows disappear slowly under the circus tent.

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Even though I definitely lean in that direction, I thought that "Clown in Chief" remark was an embarrassingly cheap shot. There are ways to do that and have it ring true within the storyline and ways not to, last night was one of those ways. While I like Kelley's work, if he wants to throw political jabs maybe he should just have a blog, or write a book. Bring back the well-crafted entertainment of earlier BL and/or The Practice, this later stuff is like watching a comic book.
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he didnt say 'clown in cheif' he said 'the nations number one clown', but none the less, i thought it was pretty funny. The show has definatly gotten 'silly' for lack of a better word, the whole clown suit in the court room, the witch last week, the stupid lady that talks with a chello i think it was?? what the hell was that about i dont know. Anyway, denny crane still kills me so im sticking with it.
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I just started watching this show recently because of the Commander in Cheif lead in, and after last night's "Ass Fat" episode, I've decided it's my new favorite network show. Those two women were a scream. This is Shatner's best stuff ever. His face is so expressive, and the Altzheimer's/sleazy lawyer thing was well done. It's definitely "over the top" and silly at times, but I'm personally burned out on the Bruckenheimer formula. And it's serious eye candy in HD.
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Julie Bowen always helps too!

More HD please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What happened last night with Alan and his assistant? My OTA lost signal and I couldn't regain it until Alan and Denny were having their cocktail.
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He got a case of the terrors on the second night, she saved his life and then quit the night watch gig.
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I'm getting dizzy!! What's the deal with the photography here? What was a so-so story got much worse when I got a headache from all the zooms with the picture. I th9ink this show is slipping (a little).

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I thought last night was an improvement over previous shows this season. Court room antics weren't WAY over the top and Denny's mad cow seemed to be in remission.

I loved when he was running the gauntlet:

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And "Alan" taking on the Credit card business...
Does it look like "Denise" will soon have fling?
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I agree this last one was better - much less over the top silliness and even Denny's "mad" comments were stifled and he actually contributed. The setup btwn Shore and the credit card company attorney was wonderful. You just kept waiting for Shore to tear into this smiling clown and bring him to his kness with his usual sardonic wit and withering legal expertise. I also thought the serious courtroom issue of vindicating Brad the axeman was balanced well with Shore's final comment at the end to Denny about "had I (Shore) been the prosecutor, Brad would be in jail now and the pedophile would be free". Good stuff and I hope they keep it up and stay off of the silliness train to the extreme they had gotten into lately.

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My favorite was the "I have an erection....that's a good sign....we're ready....lock and load".
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And "Alan" taking on the Credit card business...
Does it look like "Denise" will soon have fling?

Even though Denise changed her tune last night, Alan has always seemed amazingly unafraid of a sexual harrasment action. That shot of her walking away after thanking him for helping her out was...priceless. Yowza!
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My favorite was the "I have an erection....that's a good sign....we're ready....lock and load".

Right on, me too!

I still miss Monica Potter. Another lady lawyer, the blond exec lawyer on E-Ring who plays footsies with the hero, is something to behold. I only wish!

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I still miss Monica Potter.

Agreed...although Julie Bowen has always been a hottie.
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1/10/06- 1st commercial break was HD for AT&T
Got to love Cranes quotes...I want to be alone with my phone...at least 15 minutes..- Catch the sound effect when he opened his phone- Star trek-
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1/10/06- 1st commercial break was HD for AT&T
Got to love Cranes quotes...I want to be alone with my phone...at least 15 minutes..- Catch the sound effect when he opened his phone- Star trek-

Made me spit up my Dr. Pepper when I heard the communicator sound!
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I like that! Great humor.
Denny Crane!

You might be the 1st person that understands my name. Although- Dr Thunder (Walmart brand), Dr Bob ( Giant food store brand), etc.. gives the real thing a run for less $.
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Terrific episode! It had it all...humor, sex, violence. My favorite BL episode yet. (I thought the story line w/ MJF could have been better, though.)

Spader was superb!

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I would have never thought I would be saying this - but Shatner ALONE makes me want to watch Boston Legal. He's hilarious.
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... I heard the communicator sound!

That is why Shatner will always be Capt. James T. Kirk! (What does T. stand for?)

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That is why Shatner will always be Capt. James T. Kirk! (What does T. stand for?)

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Tiberious, I believe. (Have no idea where that little nugget in my brain originated.)
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Tiberious, I believe. (Have no idea where that little nugget in my brain originated.)

Always thought it funny that he was named Terrance James in TJ Hooker.

I guess he likes that name "James".
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I bet the censors struggled a bit with the interwoven small plot about Denny having sex in the coatroom and the host of the banquet - scenes/sounds of lustful Denny, then cut to the host "before his head swells", then back to Denny, etc. Pretty clever, if close to the edge. Good show.

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Always thought it funny that he was named Terrance James in TJ Hooker.

I guess he likes that name "James".

Denny J. Crane?
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The "credit card" episode and this week's were great. Picky critics be damned, I love this show.

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