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I'm just happy to get more than the measly 7Mbps (more like 3-5Mbps, actual) than I used to pay $34.99/month for on my old, never-renegotiated TWC internet service. Finally, I have decent bandwidth! By the way, since Netflix' UltraHD only requires 25Mbps, why would anyone need 75/75 or greater service?
Multiple people in the house. Just the past week a co-worker was telling me that they hit their 4 screen limit on Netflix for the first time. Five people in their house wanted to watch something different from Netflix at the same time. And of course you can't stream more than four at the same time.

I'm on the 75/75 plan which is really 84 down and 92 up. But I could easily use more speed since I'm typically hitting my download limit. Just the other day I had updates and games downloading to my two XBOnes, a 360, and a PS4. It would have been nice to have been back on the 150Mb/s tier while I was doing that since it took too long doing them all concurrently. I miss the the 150 tier, that I used to have, pretty much every day.

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Thanks, John, but I think I'm now totally good with just the Roku sourcing the second screen (which was previously sourced with a TimeWarner digital adapter, which was free for the first year, and only $1/month thereafter). That'll save me another box rental (which I think is $8.99/month).

I haven't had my Roku hooked up for a few months (I've been using my FireTV for Amazon Prime content on the big TV). Now, I've just re-assigned the Roku, dedicated to my small second-screen (my "newsfeed" TV), and it's working out great. Roku-streamed CBSNews and SkyNews look amazing for some reason (razor-sharp; no artifacts). I bought both the Roku3 and FireTV on sale last Xmas as an experiment, and now I have a home for each:

• Amazon FireTV connected to AVR as one of its sources for the soon-to-be 75" Sony W850C.
• Roku3 + TotalMount bracket as the sole-source for viewing news and NASA HD on the small TV.

Again, FiOS picture quality: I don't think it's new-owner's bias--the picture does appear to look markedly better than my TimeWarner experience. I've noticed virtually no artifacting on detail or motion (the mild artifacting I saw on Contact was primarily due to the noisy transfer, I believe). On TimeWarner, almost every graphics-heavy commercial and every title sequence exhibited artifacting.

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I'm on the 75/75 plan which is really 84 down and 92 up. But I could easily use more speed since I'm typically hitting my download limit. Just the other day I had updates and games downloading to my two XBOnes, a 360, and a PS4. It would have been nice to have been back on the 150Mb/s tier while I was doing that since it took too long doing them all concurrently. I miss the the 150 tier, that I used to have, pretty much every day.
We also have a pile of game systems, and updates and downloads do consume a lot of bandwidth. I guess we're lucky that we don't all seem to need bandwidth at the exact same times. Don't get me wrong, as I would love to have 150/150 since as a photographer I often upload tons of GBs to clients and to my content-delivery websites.

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Thanks, John, but I think I'm now totally good with just the Roku sourcing the second screen (which was previously sourced with a TimeWarner digital adapter, which was free for the first year, and only $1/month thereafter). That'll save me another box rental (which I think is $8.99/month).

I haven't had my Roku hooked up since Xmas (I've been using my FireTV for Amazon Prime content on the big TV). Now I have the Roku dedicated to the small screen and it's working out great (CBSNews and SkyNews look amazing for some reason). I bought both the Roku3 and FireTV on sale as an experiment, and now I have a home for each:

• Amazon FireTV connected to AVR as one of its sources for the soon-to-be 75" Sony/Samsung.
• Roku3 + TotalMount bracket as the sole-source for viewing news and NASA HD on the small TV.

Again, FiOS picture quality: I don't think it's new-owner's bias--the picture does appear to look markedly better than my TimeWarner experience. I've noticed virtually no artifacting on detail or motion (the mild artifacting I saw on Contact was primarily due to the noisy transfer, I believe). On TimeWarner, almost every graphics-heavy commercial and every title sequence exhibited artifacting.


The picture Is sharper because there is no additional compression of the video signal like you have with cable.

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I'm just happy to get more than the measly 7Mbps (more like 3-5Mbps, actual) than I used to pay $34.99/month for on my old, never-renegotiated TWC internet service. Finally, I have decent bandwidth! By the way, since Netflix' UltraHD only requires 25Mbps, why would anyone need 75/75 or greater service?
25mbps? I thought it was like 6mbps.

Does anybody on fios get Netflix ultra hd? How do we get it and how do we know we are getting it.
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I haven't tried it myself (since I only have a regular subscription), but I found these Netflix FAQs online:




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The picture Is sharper because there is no additional compression of the video signal like you have with cable.
Thanks. Why do you think CNN International and NASA HD streams are so horrible?

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Thanks. Why do you think CNN International and NASA HD streams are so horrible?
Its probably due to the feed that they are getting from these sources. Sometimes to lower the cost or because some other provider has an "exclusive" carriage contract with the network, Verizon is limited to a "lower grade" feed. You would have to do some research to find out.

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25mbps? I thought it was like 6mbps.

Does anybody on fios get Netflix ultra hd? How do we get it and how do we know we are getting it.
Netflix receommends 25Mb/s for streaming their UHD content.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

To get Netflix Ultra HD content you need a UHDTV with a Netflix app that can access the UHD content.

Just like with some of the Netflix devices that shows you info about the stream in the upper left, you can see this info with the UHD streams as well. With the devices that support showing this info.

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Its probably due to the feed that they are getting from these sources . . .
Probably. Both CBSNews and SkyNews are streamed/supported by CBS and Sky, respectively. I have to stream the CNN International feed that I'm able to get from a private channel [thenowhereman.com/roku "in association with 'Glo'"], and the NASA HD stream is from another private channel provider [FlickStream.com].

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I'm on the 75/75 plan which is really 84 down and 92 up...
Same plan and very similar results in Virginia Beach...


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I would be interested to know other FiOS customers' speed tests using the UCLA site: http://www.ns.ucla.edu/tools.html
[Edit: I guess this only makes sense for Los Angeles-area residents.]

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Same plan and very similar results in Virginia Beach...

These settings are perfect. They won't change much from location to location like cable because Verizon's infrastructure and the configuration is the same and it's fiber optics. With cable it changes because the data backbone is all shared and your speed will depend on how many users are on the backbone and what they are doing. With FiOS you have your own dedicated bandwidth, no sharing, all light wave between you house and the central office.
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To get Netflix Ultra HD content you need a UHDTV with a Netflix app that can access the UHD content.
Plus $11.99 per month vs. $7.99 per month. I've had the higher plan since January but the UHD content they've added since then is IMO not that great. It's worth it for Daredevil. I'm thinking about downshifting for a few months.
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These settings are perfect. They won't change much from location to location like cable because Verizon's infrastructure and the configuration is the same and it's fiber optics. With cable it changes because the data backbone is all shared and your speed will depend on how many users are on the backbone and what they are doing. With FiOS you have your own dedicated bandwidth, no sharing, all light wave between you house and the central office.
Verizon is shared as well. It is not dedicated.

If you are on BPON then 622Mb/s down and 122Mb/s up is shared between 32 homes.

If you are on GPON then 2.4Gb/s down and 1.2Gb/s up is shared between 32 or 64 homes.

I have read about people that have run into bandwidth issues on FiOS because of too many people on high bandwidth tiers using the bandwidth concurrently. Although it is rare.

Fortunately I have never run across that problem in my area. I was on BPON from 2007 to 2012 and GPON from 2012 to the present.

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Plus $11.99 per month vs. $7.99 per month. I've had the higher plan since January but the UHD content they've added since then is IMO not that great. It's worth it for Daredevil. I'm thinking about downshifting for a few months.
I'm grandfathered into $7.99(supposedly for life as long as I never drop or change the streaming plan)with four screens of HD or UHD. Although I don't have a UHDTV yet so I have not used any UHD streams.

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Verizon is shared as well. It is not dedicated.

If you are on BPON then 622Mb/s down and 122Mb/s up is shared between 32 homes.

If you are on GPON then 2.4Gb/s down and 1.2Gb/s up is shared between 32 or 64 homes.

I have read about people that have run into bandwidth issues on FiOS because of too many people on high bandwidth tiers using the bandwidth concurrently. Although it is rare.

Fortunately I have never run across that problem in my area. I was on BPON from 2007 to 2012 and GPON from 2012 to the present.
Right but if you get 75/75 with Fios for example, it will always be 75/75 no matter what time of day or night or what the neighbors are doing. Verizon manages the load on the splitters as you mention above to maintain this quality of service. With cable this is not the case. When the kids come home at 3 pm or it's prime time at night, you speed will be much less that what you signed up for.

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By the way, my installer mentioned that he recently received an e-mail from Verizon announcing the arrival of new ONTs sometime later this year. Anyone know of more details?

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