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The wife was the " dominate one " and she put the guy up to it. She was running the video camara.

This is one of the best shows on TV. I have had a SP for it from day one.


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This show really kicks ass!
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(From Marc Berman's Thursday, October 12,, 2006, Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com )

At 9 p.m., CBS' Criminal Minds actually moved ahead of ABC's Lost in the overnights, while trailing in total viewers by just 180,000 -- an amazing accomplishment (and a cause of great concern for ABC once new Taye Diggs drama Day Break temporarily steps in for three months in November). Take a look:

Wednesday 9 p.m.
Lost (ABC)
Overnights: 11.4/17 (#2), Viewers: 16.66 million (#1); A18-49: 6.7/17 (#1)

Criminal Minds (CBS)
Overnights: 11.9/17 (#1), Viewers: 16.48 million (#2), A18-49: 4.4/11 (#2)...

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newslett...ider/index.jsp
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(From Marc Berman's Thursday, October 12,, 2006, Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com )

At 9 p.m., CBS' Criminal Minds actually moved ahead of ABC's Lost in the overnights, while trailing in total viewers by just 180,000 -- an amazing accomplishment (and a cause of great concern for ABC once new Taye Diggs drama Day Break temporarily steps in for three months in November). Take a look:

Wednesday 9 p.m.
Lost (ABC)
Overnights: 11.4/17 (#2), Viewers: 16.66 million (#1); A18-49: 6.7/17 (#1)

Criminal Minds (CBS)
Overnights: 11.9/17 (#1), Viewers: 16.48 million (#2), A18-49: 4.4/11 (#2)...

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newslett...ider/index.jsp

Looks like a distant second in the prime demographic. All the old people are watching CM. I'm guessing they won't be into the Taye Diggs Groundhog-Day Break show either .


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Total bull$hit. Seems to me, an FBI agent, Elle, would/could never do what she did. Shoot someone in cold blood. I sw no evidence in other episodes this season that she was "snapping" (did I miss something? wouldn't be the first time lol).

Other than that, this show has been very good. I watch every week. Jason is a cool character. I hope we see more of his outside-of-work life.
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I agree nashville, I have been watching the shwo from the beginning and E's changed behavior is sudden. I think see is on the way out of the show and this is the way the writers want her off.
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Total bull$hit. Seems to me, an FBI agent, Elle, would/could never do what she did. Shoot someone in cold blood.

Probably but it makes great TV. If people wanted super intelligent accurate representations they could read technical manuals on the subject or worse watch PBS.
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I think it's because she got shot and what ever else happened to her in that scene.
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... at the very least, a psychiatric evaluation. Maybe by Reid lol.
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Total bull$hit. Seems to me, an FBI agent, Elle, would/could never do what she did. Shoot someone in cold blood. I sw no evidence in other episodes this season that she was "snapping" (did I miss something? wouldn't be the first time lol).
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Well, that may be but it's no more bull$hit than her getting shot at point blank range and surviving.

If your concern is that it denigrates FBI agents and the vetting the agency does then that's a separate concern, I'm not addressing that. However.....

Outside of a few incidents I can't think of a single show where you don't already know what's going and not going to happen to the lead characters because either a: they are lead characters and you know they won't be killed off or b: the writers WON'T show supposed good guys committing a crime or heinous act. For example, you KNOW Jack Bauer is always going to prevail, so it takes the suspense out of things for many of us. I was SURE Lola wouldn't shoot the guy at the end because she couldn't be shown committing murder. The fact that CM had the b*lls to do something like this (similar to the first year of Shield or 24 and some others) actually puts the audience on notice that you can NEVER be too sure what is going to happen on the show. Someone else made this point first but I think it really is going to make people watch CM because you might see something you wouldn't expect.

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(From Marc Berman's Thursday, October 19, 2006, Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com )

At 9 p.m., although ABC's deteriorating Lost continues to own the hour among adults 18-49, CBS' competing Criminal Minds inched past the thriller in total viewers for the first time ever. Lost averaged an 11.3/17 in the overnights (#1), 16.07 million viewers (#2) and a 6.5/16 among adults 18-49 (#1). The vastly improved Criminal Minds came in at an 11.1/16 in the overnights (#2), 16.10 million viewers (#1) and a 4.5/11 among adults 18-49 (#2). Take a look at how CBS has made inroads in this time period in just one year, and how Lost has dipped by double-digit percentages.

Wednesday 9 p.m.
Lost (ABC)
10/19/05 - Overnights: 13.9/20 (#1)
Viewers: 21.38 million (#1)
A18-49: 9.3/22 (#2)
10/18/06 - Overnights: 11.3/17 (#1)
Viewers: 16.07 million (#2)
A18-49: 6.5/16 (#1)
Percent Change - Overnights: -19
Viewers: -25
A18-49: -30

Criminal Minds (CBS)
10/19/05 - Overnights: 8.8/12 (#3)
Viewers: 12.79 million (#3)
A18-49: 3.9/ 9 (#3)
10/18/06 - Overnights: 11.1/16 (#2)
Viewers: 16.10 million (#1)
A18-49: 4.5/11 (#2)
Percent Change - Overnights: +26
Viewers: +26
A18-49: +15 ...

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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Typically, when actors want to leave a show like this, they either kill-off their characters or have them commit career-ending acts like this. It usually happens at the end of a season or shortly after the start of a new one. Apparently, the actress who plays "Elle", wants to move on to roles that better suit her vision of how she wants her own career to develop. I can't imagine the producers would want to dump someone who brings such class and charm to the show. Actually, all the main ensemble of actors on this show are very dignified and talented.

But, perhaps there's a plot twist to all this, that doesn't seem logical at this point. There's a trend in TV shows to have most, if not all the characters, showing significant flaws in character and behavior. No more heroes of foursquare virtue in modern times. How many people are like that in real life, who don't have at least one foot of clay, anyway? I've personally known only a handful who managed to keep any bad sides concealed from me.
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(From Marc Berman's Thursday, October 19, 2006, Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com )

At 9 p.m., although ABC's deteriorating Lost continues to own the hour among adults 18-49, CBS' competing Criminal Minds inched past the thriller in total viewers for the first time ever. Lost averaged an 11.3/17 in the overnights (#1), 16.07 million viewers (#2) and a 6.5/16 among adults 18-49 (#1). The vastly improved Criminal Minds came in at an 11.1/16 in the overnights (#2), 16.10 million viewers (#1) and a 4.5/11 among adults 18-49 (#2). Take a look at how CBS has made inroads in this time period in just one year, and how Lost has dipped by double-digit percentages.

Wednesday 9 p.m.
Lost (ABC)
10/19/05 - Overnights: 13.9/20 (#1)
Viewers: 21.38 million (#1)
A18-49: 9.3/22 (#2)
10/18/06 - Overnights: 11.3/17 (#1)
Viewers: 16.07 million (#2)
A18-49: 6.5/16 (#1)
Percent Change - Overnights: -19
Viewers: -25
A18-49: -30

Criminal Minds (CBS)
10/19/05 - Overnights: 8.8/12 (#3)
Viewers: 12.79 million (#3)
A18-49: 3.9/ 9 (#3)
10/18/06 - Overnights: 11.1/16 (#2)
Viewers: 16.10 million (#1)
A18-49: 4.5/11 (#2)
Percent Change - Overnights: +26
Viewers: +26
A18-49: +15 ...

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newslett...ider/index.jsp

I wonder how much the increasing availability of dual-tuner HD DVRs will change the do or die nature of a show, that is pitted against a top-rated one in its time-slot? With my DVR, I now have the option of watching both HD shows in such pairings, and can call my SD DVD/HDD recorder into service to catch a third one, if it's on at the same time. I almost never watch any show live, so I can skip past commercials. With the On Demand selections of primetime shows increasing on cable and Internet services, many people don't even have to bother to record them, to watch them up to a month later. I think that time-slot positioning will be steadily declining in importance and perhaps in the future, many good shows will survive, that might have earlier been shot-down by an unfortunate scheduling against a more established one.
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Total bull$hit. Seems to me, an FBI agent, Elle, would/could never do what she did. Shoot someone in cold blood. I sw no evidence in other episodes this season that she was "snapping" (did I miss something? wouldn't be the first time lol).

I agree.....totally out of character for her.....even the almost-evil grin!
And more unbelievable.....that they would let her go undercover like that
so soon after being traumatized by her recent attack. C'mon....!
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This show really kicks ass!

I agree I love this show and have watched since day 1 nice to see the ratings are still climbing.
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Seeing a show like this is proof why CBS is consistently the most watched network... maybe CBS could loan NBC some of their writers

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Total bull$hit. Seems to me, an FBI agent, Elle, would/could never do what she did. Shoot someone in cold blood. I sw no evidence in other episodes this season that she was "snapping" (did I miss something? wouldn't be the first time lol).

There was plenty of build up for this event. Aside from her being shot, in season one several episodes showed her having problems adjusting to the life of an FBI agent, and in the "Unfinished Business" episode we saw that Elle has emotional issues handling sexual offenders.

As for saying that an FBI agent could never do what she did...you're being far too idealistic. These sorts of things really do happen. Some (a small number, one hopes) police officers have killed indiscriminately, some U.S. soldiers in Iraq committed rape, etc. All people -- police officers, FBI agents, and religious figures included -- are capable of committing immoral acts.
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Since I'm sure Gideon and Hotchner know she did it on purpose, I'm curious to see if she does end up leaving or if they just "sweep it under the rug."

I'd hate to see her go, she's a hottie.
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(From Marc Berman's Thursday, October 26, 2006, Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com )

Once again, the little show that could, CBS' Criminal Minds, gave ABC's Lost a run for dominance in total viewers. And, yes, that is one of the biggest stories worth telling this season
At 9 p.m., there are now two shows dominating the hour, ABC's Lost and CBS' Criminal Minds. Take a look:

Wednesday 9 p.m.
Lost (ABC)
Overnights: 11.5/17 (#1t)
Viewers: 16.80 million (#1)
A18-49: 6.9/17 (#1)

Criminal Minds (CBS)
Overnights: 11.5/17 (31t)
Viewers: 16.59 million (#2)
A18-49: 4.4/11 (#2)

Criminal Minds, of course, is up by double-digit percentages year-to-year, while Lost is just the opposite. As for last night's episode of Lost, all I can say is it was one of the best I have ever seen. Too bad, again, that ABC is making the mistake of taking it off for three months in place of upcoming drama Day Break, which debuts on Nov. 15.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data
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So, is she off the show? Or is this just a partial time off?
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I'd hate to see her go, she's a hottie.

Not since she got here hair cut.
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Since I'm sure Gideon and Hotchner know she did it on purpose, I'm curious to see if she does end up leaving or if they just "sweep it under the rug."

I'd hate to see her go, she's a hottie.

First saw her on NYPD Blue.
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I wonder why they keep having the hot female characters leave in disgrace instead of offing them or finding some more honorable way to move them on. CSI:NY did it to Anna Belknap's predecessor last year.

They should have just had Elle die offscreen in the season premiere, a la Lauren Lee Smith in Mutant X.
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I'd hate to see her go, she's a hottie.

They are replacing her with Paget Brewster who is also a hottie so it shouldn't be that bad regarding just that aspect of the show.
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Not since she got here hair cut.

True, that haircut was awful. I was thinking back to Season 1 and when I saw her on The Sopranos in a bra. Very hot!
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I guess I missed an episode, what happen to Elle? Or after she killed that guy, tonight's episode was the next one and she is gone?
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I guess I missed an episode, what happen to Elle? Or after she killed that guy, tonight's episode was the next one and she is gone?

There was a new group picture of the cast tonight and she wasn't included. Do you suppose that indicates anything?
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just a few observations...

Reid seem to have less screen time.

Blondie had allot of screen time. (Perhaps making up for thr brunette not being on the show anymore.)

Terrible acting on the part of the three girls in the bunker.

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John, you missed the two episodes

1. She killed a guy in cold blood
2. Second episode she resigned from the FBI
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John, you missed the two episodes

1. She killed a guy in cold blood
2. Second episode she resigned from the FBI

I saw the one where she killed that guy, but I missed the episode where she resigned. That's it she quit and nothing happend, no trail, nothing. Thanks TulsaCoker.
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