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Thought I'd start a thread....did a search and didn't see any info about it.

8/7c Saturday, July 22
MIAMI VICE: UNDERCOVER
Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx host a three-hour Miami Vice event that takes you back in time with the original 2-hour Miami Vice pilot - now in HD! - and up to the present with an original featurette on acclaimed director Michael Mann's new take on his own '80's classic. Don't miss a car chase, explosion, Don Johnson's infamous wardrobe, or a special sneak peek at this summer's hottest blockbuster... Miami Vice!

http://www.nbc.com/Movies_Specials_More/

Interested to see how they frame it (if it will be 4x3 like CBS did with Rudolph, or if it will be 16x9).

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It might be 4:3 like the clips on the Seinfeld special, or it might be cropped to 16:9 like the old shows on Universal HD.

Another question is whether the movie clips will be in HD.

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I bet the pilot will be 4:3, and it should look pretty good. This is great.
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I bet the pilot will be 4:3
Why? It's an NBC Universal series, and all other vintage NBC Universal series have been cropped for HD. I wouldn't expect this to be any different.
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When Sleuth goes HD, 4:3 shows will probably be cropped, including Miami Vice.

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Thought I'd start a thread....did a search and didn't see any info about it.

8/7c Saturday, July 22
MIAMI VICE: UNDERCOVER
Note that on DirecTV is it only listed as Miami Vice with the episode titled "Brother's Keeper" and the episode description. No mention of any special stuff, but it is 3:00 hours. Also doesn't specify HDTV yet.
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Note that on DirecTV is it only listed as Miami Vice with the episode titled "Brother's Keeper" and the episode description. No mention of any special stuff, but it is 3:00 hours. Also doesn't specify HDTV yet.
It's noted as HDTV on NBC's web site.

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Why? It's an NBC Universal series, and all other vintage NBC Universal series have been cropped for HD. I wouldn't expect this to be any different.
Because the S1, and S2 on DVD are 4:3, from HD masters, and contain all original music.

If they zoom and crop the 4:3 image, it will be a real F&*Y^# shame and quite a departure from what we saw on the DVDs.

But, considering it's NBC, you almost have to assume the worst.
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I could be wrong but wasn't Vice filmed on film instead of video?... I think they used TV safe, open matte whatever you call it when they filmed it like the Back to the Future films.... If they crop the top and bottom if looks more filmic if you ask me... If your TV can zoom on in the image of the pilot DVD try it out and see what it looks like.... I watched the pilot on the season one DVDs and the Calderone's Return eps. like this with no problem, nobody's head gets cut off or anything. The shot compostion inside the 16x9 area looks better to me actually, more like movies... But that's just me.

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Anyone know why its scheduled for 3 hours? Who can take 3 hours of Colin Farell is beyond me.
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Anyone know why its scheduled for 3 hours? Who can take 3 hours of Colin Farell is beyond me.
2 hours for original Miami Vice Pilot episodes and an hour to promote the new movie.
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Hmmm, the original TV series was shot on film and the new film was shot on digital video. I guess that makes sense. :)

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2 hours for original Miami Vice Pilot episodes and an hour to promote the new movie.
Only 96 minutes of real programming.
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It's free HD programming though.:)


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It's free HD programming though.:)
I loved the original Crockett and Tubbs...this one will probably stay on the PVR for a little while.
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It's 8:02 in the east. Fillers........ let's show the original, already.
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It's free HD programming though.:)
Let's call it a free "promo", or a free "elongated trailer"
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Yeah, anybody got the inside scoop on the time the episode will actually start? ;)
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We are seeing what will end up on the DVD as the "Making Of" I am guessing.

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Yeah, anybody got the inside scoop on the time the episode will actually start? ;)
The original's 96 minutes. So allowing for commercials, they don't have to start it until about 8:45. I would think it's more like 8:30. But do expect more "fillers" during the episode.
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Started at 8:24. Picture is 16:9 but looks a bit soft and grainy. Definitely loosing the top and bottom of the original frame.
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Yeah I was going to say the same thing. The video setup reminds me of DVD movie setups where the 4:3 version shows more video frame on the top and bottom but the 16:9 shows more width.

Is the video being zoomed and top bottom cropped for 16:9?
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Quick look at SD vs HD (sd is full, no bars), looks like no information gain, but it was just a real quick look.

Transfer is also really dirty (atleast the intro), but still, go NBC for doing it (now only if there will be one for the A-Team when its movie comes out, tho its a fox movie now iirc!)
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So the HD is the middle of the SD

Or another way to look at it, the SD is open matte and the HD is matte
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Looks real grainy. 35mm film does not telecine well to HD at all. Don't stand real close to the LCD sets, it ain't pretty. You may be able to get away with it on plasmas.
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I have to admit, this isn't very pretty.

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Stupid fricken crop job. No thanks.

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35mm film does not telecine well to HD at all
It most certainly does. But all films are different and an old TV show will not be shot in such a way to produce an outstanding image. There are a variety of reasons for this.

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Looks real grainy. 35mm film does not telecine well to HD at all. Don't stand real close to the LCD sets, it ain't pretty. You may be able to get away with it on plasmas.
This telecine doesn't look good. You should have seen The Wizard of Oz, that looked great.

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