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post #5881 of 5894 Old 11-24-2015, 01:13 PM
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What bothers me is that hero guy...not being demeaning, but I've objected from the beginning that he was one of 3 and spotlighted, I suppose because he'd garner more Q points from the audience.
As has been stated (many times) it's not a talent show that airs on PBS or whatnot. Rather it's their adventure and how many (voters) they can get to ride along. Now in most cases the cream rises to the top especially once the "contestants" get whittled down. I presume when their favorite is gone they lean towards the more talented dancers if they keep voting.

I do think a great deal of the charm of the show is the duck out of water factor. Taking someone off the street and having them compete against say a Backstreet Boy on a live dancing show watched by millions makes it incredibility difficult "to judge" Sure an obvious way is on pure talent. However to a large degree that removes the emotional aspect which is what makes taking the journey with them worthwhile.

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..... Bindi is my choice for the obvious reasons, but I worry.
No need to worry, if todays poll on GMA is at all correct. They did a phone vote and Bindi was the overwhelming victor, not even close. Second and third were kind of close but as I predicted, the nod going towards the hero
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No need to worry, if todays poll on GMA is at all correct. They did a phone vote and Bindi was the overwhelming victor, not even close. Second and third were kind of close but as I predicted, the nod going towards the hero
I haven't been watching the boards...really don't care. My reactions are my own, but that lil girl, with her background and charisma...as well as...talent and her partnership is the obvious choice. That said, Shawn Johnson and Derek should have won the Championship season hands down. Go back and look at their dances on youtube.

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Well, I guess I didn't need to worry. Funny, awhile back I mentioned that I have some Ozzie friends. Women in their 30s and quite bright and playful. Neither were surprised and both expressed some distain for the Irwins. I think there maybe somewhat of a Kardashian situation going on down there.

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The two hour finale, while containing its usual share of fluff and filler was actually not bad. There was some great dancing by the pros and Tom and Erin kept it moving. Erin's gown was amazing. Best of all, the obvious best dancer/actress/personality won. By all accounts Bindi may have run away with the finals voting. If so, it was well deserved and Nick was very gracious when she was announced. His praise of her was very genuine. He's a class act. and as it turned out, a pretty good dancer. The duet between Chaka and Andy (Baby It's Cold Outside) was cute although Chaka can still vocally bring it big time and Andy was no match for her (side note; I love the Barnes and Noble commercial with Gaga and Tony Bennett singing that song. Anyone who still thinks that Gaga cant flat out sing isn't listening). All in all, what looked to be a sub-par season turned out, once the clinkers were sent packing, to be very good with some really nice dancing. The best dancer winning meant that all was right with the world.

No word yet on whether SYTYCD will get a 16th season. Let's hope so not only because its the one pure dancing show on TV but also because it's a launching pad for so many professional dancing careers including the pros who compete and those in the troupe on DWTS.
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I enjoyed the finale but I thought The Grove was too holiday embellished . At times (often) it felt like a Christmas special. Although I have to say I couldn't pull out of my driveway this morning as the street was blocked by a lift bucket decorating the street trees. So I guess it is that time of year...

After a decade I'm still at a loss to explain how/why the show creates such goodwill among the cast and crew. It's certainly a great deal of its attraction even if you can't explain it.

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I'm just happy Nick came in second, very surprise though as all accounts had the hero a distant second to Bindi and Nick 3rd.
I wonder if the backlash against Bindi is so many people like her, others feel they need to go against the grain? She seems to be a very positive person, almost too much at times, wonder again if that turns people off...
Regardless IMO the best dancer won
I too would be saddened if SYTYCD was cancelled, I still like DWTS but with recent chances really prefer SYTYCD.
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After a decade I'm still at a loss to explain how/why the show creates such goodwill among the cast and crew. It's certainly a great deal of its attraction even if you can't explain it.
I think that it's an almost perfect storm of the right pro dancers, contestants who are very nice people, quite humble at times and can check their egos at the door, brilliant costume/makeup/hair stylists and technical staff who do great work. Add in Tom Bergeron who is the best in the business and, over the past few seasons, Erin Andrews and the results are first class production values that are always spot on. Even when a season looks to be hopeless, based on the announced celebs, somehow it all shakes out over the weeks and you end up with some great dancing as the show goes down the home stretch. It's truly impressive
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Regarding production values and dancing skill, it seems to be trending up. My memory of earlier seasons might be faulty, but the skill level of even contestants with little or no training is markedly better. Hero guy, surviving as long as he did was a combination of audience and tremendous work effort. That guy could have won some of the early seasons even against the likes of some of the football players that had tons of charisma, but not much technique. I'm thinking the training methods may have improved with all the experience. Some of the pros are adopting a more positive approach with their students maybe. It sure works for Derek.

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Some of the pros are adopting a more positive approach with their students maybe. It sure works for Derek.
Absolutely! Sure Derek seems to get above average partners but what he does with them is way above and beyond anything that even they thought they could do. His work with Amber Riley was stellar, even factoring in the popularity of Glee at that time. What he and Amy Purdy accomplished was miraculous, in great part due to her courage and "nuthins gonna stop me" attitude but Derek pushed her to heights that nobody, given her amputations, could have ever imagined (major props to the prosthesis makers of course). They finished second only because Maks and Meryl turned out to be the greatest team in the show's history. This year it was Bindi, blessed with natural talent that she wasn't even aware of, but still, it was Derek who had to make sure that it was on full display every week. To me he is the best and, I think, the most generous of the pro partners.
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I think that it's an almost perfect storm of the right pro dancers, contestants who are very nice people, quite humble at times and can check their egos at the door, brilliant costume/makeup/hair stylists and technical staff who do great work.
I think for whatever reason people are assimilated when they do the show. The (created) atmosphere is simply too strong to resist (to a large degree). Perhaps the pro dancers are so happy to have such an outlet they set the stage. And as they are more than aware of they dance at the whim of the producers and after x seasons they have a "dance career ticket" punched for life if and when they leave the show. However I do think there must be some higher powers (producers) orchestrating the proceedings. Much like how some teams maintain a good vibe year after year regardless of who comes and goes.

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My memory of earlier seasons might be faulty, but the skill level of even contestants with little or no training is markedly better.
I think this was evident when the first champ came back to compete. Kelly Monaco performed at a much higher level as did production values along with everything else.

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To me he is the best and, I think, the most generous of the pro partners.
I was impressed by how he "blamed himself" for previous loses. Much like an athlete looking back at prior seasons and wishing they had performed differently. Winning 29% of the time is bound to create some anyone but him sentiment. Throw in his little sister and you have 38%.

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Hi. A late night and heavy work load has delayed my recap of the Tuesday finale. IE11 on my computer is just insane. I am putting this in as a place holder until I can get time later to fill in the info.


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I've rad in several places that Bindi had never been able to completely express her grief over Steve's untimely death and with Derek's help and guidance she was finally able to do that and channel it into her dancing. Her reaction to the surprise picture of her and her dad at the end of the freestyle was one of the great moments in the show's history. There were great shots of the audience, especially Nastia Liukin and Leah Remini in tears. Even Erin was verklempt. So let the haters hate but Derek has been the creative and artistic backbone of DWTS for years.

Like Meryl Davis, many of Bindi's numbers are going to get massive YouTube hits long after this season's finale.

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Grief in a small child sometimes never gets expressed. She was too young and children are tremendously self centered...survival instinct. It can take decades. This was quite an opportunity for her to reflect. I lost my grandfather when I was 14. He was a wonderful guy, cranky, a teaser and he did a masterful job contributing to my childhood. It's only now, thinking back, I'm near his age when he died, that I realize how much effort and how many good things he brought into my life...so with my Grandma, Mom and Dad...all passed years ago...except for my Dad, I never really dealt with the grief...too wrapped up in my own life.

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