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post #4831 of 4855 Old 09-21-2007, 07:38 AM
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Second warning!!!!!! Be very cautious with NBC previews. Talk about spoilers. NBC takes the cake. I will just say that so far two of the four mysteries are shown. But since I was spoiled maybe I would ruin it for you guys. NAH, I am not that cruel. However, you guys are very good and made the predictions but unless you want to read eveything from, back maybe 20-30 pages, it would be easier just to wait till Moday.

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I'm more surprised no one is wondering what happened to Hiro... yet.

Hiro is fine, he is in the past right smack in the middle of the battle of Good vs Evil. Nothing wrong here. He will get to explain his story to the anceint Heroes right before the battle that he ends up stopping. Then they will work on a way to get him back to the future. During his visit he learns more about the symbol that has plagued us for the complete first season.

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Second warning!!!!!! Be very cautious with NBC previews. Talk about spoilers. NBC takes the cake. I will just say that so far two of the four mysteries are shown. But since I was spoiled maybe I would ruin it for you guys. NAH, I am not that cruel. However, you guys are very good and made the predictions but unless you want to read eveything from, back maybe 20-30 pages, it would be easier just to wait till Moday.

Actually they've revealed 3 major spoilers. Not sure what would be the 4th one, though (maybe who the big bad is? They definitely don't show anything about that)...

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Actually they've revealed 3 major spoilers. Not sure what would be the 4th one, though (maybe who the big bad is? They definitely don't show anything about that)...

send me a pm with the 3 major spoilers... i have a feeling that i know but wondering if its the same info i got..

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Actually they've revealed 3 major spoilers. Not sure what would be the 4th one, though (maybe who the big bad is? They definitely don't show anything about that)...

send me one too! But don't you give it away with that big bad thing?

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Saying they didn't reveal a plot point brought up in the season finale isn't a spoiler.

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How do you figure?

Well, if Nathan was carrying Peter when he exploded then it should have killed him. He has no particular immunity to Nuclear explosions that we know of. In order to avoid dying he would have had to have dropped Peter or something and gotten to 'minimum safe distance' while Peter was falling.

In the Season finale they basically insinuated that Nathan was sacrificing himself to fly Peter to a safe distance to explode. I think there was supposed to be a bit of Drama over the decision, he was finally going to be a 'hero' and make the ultimate sacrifice. I don't think most people really noticed it tho, it didn't even occur to me until I saw the episode a second time.
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It was hard to not notice it. It wasn't subtle in the slightest.

That said, I think the majority of people expected Nathan to drop Peter and fly away. Guess we'll find out on Monday.

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maybe nathan said " f this..... peace out bro".....

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maybe he got blown into the next week, which is were Heroes will start up on Monday. But really guys all jokes aside and theories, They didn't go through all that crap for him to win the election for him to die in the finale.

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If he just droped Peterbomb then how would he know when to do it, no timer visible or anything. If he dropped him too soon then he would just hit the ground and go boom anyway, too late and Nathan is toast.

That's why I say Nathan should be dead. Unless they come up with some silly seriel-style bs escape maneuver (not that there is anything wrong with that).
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I agree with CardiacArrest, I've been saying since the finale aired that I think Peter could have survived (no reason to think he wouldn't survive the actual explosion, and he could use Claire's healing factor to recover from the fall), but Nathan should be dead. Even if he did drop him or throw him, he would have been nuked by Peter's radiation. Of course, folks coming back from the dead (or near dead) is a comic book staple, so I'm looking forward to the explaination. Just 3 more days!

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I love it when rational men discuss the plausibility of a flying man surviving the explosion of a nuclear man!!
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If he just droped Peterbomb then how would he know when to do it

Peter could have told him when.

As others have pointed out, you're talking about a flying man surviving a radioactive exploding man. It doesn't necessarily have to be logical.

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I love it when rational men discuss the plausibility of a flying man surviving the explosion of a nuclear man!!

When did I ever claim to be a rational man?

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I agree with CardiacArrest, I've been saying since the finale aired that I think Peter could have survived (no reason to think he wouldn't survive the actual explosion, and he could use Claire's healing factor to recover from the fall), but Nathan should be dead. Even if he did drop him or throw him, he would have been nuked by Peter's radiation. Of course, folks coming back from the dead (or near dead) is a comic book staple, so I'm looking forward to the explaination. Just 3 more days!

Maybe he can fly so fast he outflew the radiation! No, that can't be it; his skin would peel away from the wind resistance.

I know! Peter teleported the two of them away, then teleported back and exploded. Then healed real fast. Then flew back down to earth. Naked. Grabbed some duds and teleported back to get Nathan. Then came back. Yeah, that's it!
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Given that we have a character that can make herself look like anyone (or get killed by Sylar so he can make himself look like anyone)... there's no reason why Nathan can't be dead AND Adrian Pasdar still be a regular on the show.

They could milk the "is it Nathan or someone looking like him" for a whole season really as long as chameleon girl (or Sylar) doesn't need to be in too many multiple-location plotlines.

Chameleon girl could give the illusion of flying so people thinks Nathan flew off... Sylar could do that (if he kills her) OR he can lift himself with his telekinesis (he has done this before)... so it might be a while before anyone found out unless he really does something out of character.

Those are the really "easy outs" for having Nathan still on the show.

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And here's a really nasty bit of scriptwriting...

How do we know Peter really lost control? How do we know this wasn't chameleon girl making him think he was losing control AND making everyone else see it?

It would be a dirty trick... but Candace was still in the area (last seen unconscious... or was she just projecting the illusion of being unconsciousness??).

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I hope they don't do that. A supervillain pretending to be a politician has already been done in the X-Men movies.

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I hope they don't do that. A supervillain pretending to be a politician has already been done in the X-Men movies.

To be fair, 99% of this show has already been done in comics before.

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Maybe he can fly so fast he outflew the radiation! No, that can't be it; his skin would peel away from the wind resistance.

I know! Peter teleported the two of them away, then teleported back and exploded. Then healed real fast. Then flew back down to earth. Naked. Grabbed some duds and teleported back to get Nathan. Then came back. Yeah, that's it!

Okay, now this is exactly the type of blatant and outrageous spoiler that should never be permitted on these threads! My Monday night has now been shot to hell as the result of this egregious act, which should not go unpunished.

Therefore, I respectfully request the moderator to SEVERELY admonish that offending member, and that as further punishment, such member be required to perform LAMBADA - The Forbidden Dance on this thread, as penance!

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Given that we have a character that can make herself look like anyone (or get killed by Sylar so he can make himself look like anyone)... there's no reason why Nathan can't be dead AND Adrian Pasdar still be a regular on the show.

They could milk the "is it Nathan or someone looking like him" for a whole season really as long as chameleon girl (or Sylar) doesn't need to be in too many multiple-location plotlines.

Actually, that's not a half-bad idea, but I think it would grow kind of thin in a relatively short period of time. Oh and BTW, keep in mind that 'chameleon girl' is not a "chameleon", but rather an illusionist.

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Oh and BTW, keep in mind that 'chameleon girl' is not a "chameleon", but rather an illusionist.

Yeah... except if I called her illusionist girl, undoubtedly at least one person would say "who is illusionist girl?"

Actually.. the more I think about it, the more I like my second idea. Candace had tipped that her "normal" appearance may not be what she looks like.. but when knocked "out" by Nikki, she still looked like herself.. so that could be a "clue" that she was playing possum to setup the real illusion.

For all we know... the company plan wasn't to allow a disaster to kill innocent people, but rather to give the illusion of a disaster to permit them to take control of things...but something went wrong putting all those people together in one place.

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To be fair, 99% of this show has already been done in comics before.

Yeah, and let's not add to that with this plot line.

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