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The 2007 NFL Playoffs
AFC Wild Card Weekend in HDTV on NBC
Kansas City Chiefs (9-7) at Indianapolis Colts (12-4)
Live from the RCA Dome, Indianapolis, IN
January 6, 2007
4:30pm ET



Today's game will be broadcast in 1080i HDTV and Dolby Digital 5.1. Thanks in advance for posting all related comments here. Please include all pertinent info; source and provider, cities, station call letters, DBS, Cable, OTA.


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STORYLINE: KC's LJ vs. Indy's DL.

That's Larry Johnson, who set a league record for carries this season (416; and finished No. 2 in NFL rushing with 1,789 yards) against an Indianapolis defense that finished 32nd in the league against the rush. "We've got to get ready for him," says Colts head coach Tony Dungy, who confronts his old assistant head coach in Tampa Bay -- Chiefs coach Herm Edwards. "He's a great back. We'll have our hands full."

Of course, that will go both ways. The Chiefs' 18th ranked pass defense will go up against the league's No. 2 passing offense directed by the NFL's leading passer this year, Peyton Manning (101.0), and abetted by Indy's two 1,000-yard receivers, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. The duo has 21 TD catches between them, most for any team's top two receivers in 2006.


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Pregame in progress.

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The 2007 NFL Playoffs begin now, live on the NBC digital television network.

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Pre-game was in HD but the game is back to non-HD 4:3 here in Virginia Beach, VA via OTA.

I hope it's a glitch and gets fixed.
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Go chiefs!!! I hope the macroblocking is kept to a minimum.
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Pre-game was in HD but the game is back to non-HD 4:3 here in Virginia Beach, VA via OTA.

I hope it's a glitch and gets fixed.

Fixed now.
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Excluding the WNBC-DT macroblocking issues the video is sharp and clean on all cams except for the cable cam.
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What's the name of the play-by-play commentator with Chris Collinsworth ?
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Greetings from Seattle. If I don't get to check in later, thanks for the feedback in year one at NBC.

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What's the name of the play-by-play commentator with Chris Collinsworth ?

Tom Hammond
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What's the name of the play-by-play commentator with Chris Collinsworth ?

Tom Hammond, the fellow who does Notre Dame football and horse racing on NBC.

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Looks & sounds good, on WDIV-DT NBC Detroit, via Comcast.

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Outstanding 1080i quality from Cablevision in NJ via a Sony Pearl projector.
Watching on a 106" screen, you can actually see the texture of the artificial turf
right down to the color shifts in the green.

Pretty amazing. Better than being at the game, except if you are close to the cheerleaders.

It's all just a game. I just play to win.
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Greetings from Seattle. If I don't get to check in later, thanks for the feedback in year one at NBC.

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Setup:

WJAC-DT with one WeatherPlus subchannel
Comcast cable of State College, PA
Moto 6412 PIII connected via HDMI to Sony 30XS955 tube HDTV

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8/10

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Looks good. Sharp picture. Standard amount of macroblocking for NBC but I am much more tolerant of that compared to overall low PQ and graininess. One thing I have noticed on NBC's coverage, as well as NBC Football Night In America, is that the picture is out of focus for about 3-5 seconds following a graphic (e.g. the flying peacock graphic when they switch back to the live game from a replay).
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Chiefs dodge another bullet.

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great pq on WVIT-DT minus the typical macroblocking NBC always has.
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Setup:

WJAC-DT with one WeatherPlus subchannel
Comcast cable of State College, PA
Moto 6412 PIII connected via HDMI to Sony 30XS955 tube HDTV

Quality:

8/10

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Looks good. Sharp picture. Standard amount of macroblocking for NBC but I am much more tolerant of that compared to overall low PQ and graininess. One thing I have noticed on NBC's coverage, as well as NBC Football Night In America, is that the picture is out of focus for about 3-5 seconds following a graphic (e.g. the flying peacock graphic when they switch back to the live game from a replay).

Very nice post, covers all the important details.

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Did anyone notice that the guy in the Vytorin commercial with the helmet and goggles was the actor Lou Wagner who played Harlan Arliss on the TV show CHiPS?

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Very nice post, covers all the important details.

Thanks!
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PQ looks very good OTA in Miami.
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This time the Colts dodge a bullet.

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Looking OK here in Bellingham, WA.

Like most of NBCs NFL games, I small amounts of macroblocking when the camera pans. This is through Comcast, Motorolla 6200, and Sony Bravia LCD.
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I'm occasionally getting a little audio fuzz from the main right channel.

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NBC has been going "blurry" for me regularly for the last two weeks (at least) on live football broadcasts (never happens when it's not live). It's not macroblocking (that's easy to identify), but the broadcast goes blurry maybe once a minute or more then goes slowly back into focus over a couple of seconds. It used to happen consistently when the camera shot changed, now it seems random.

It's very noticeable, especially if you watch the stats bar on the bottom. Pretty annoying.

I'm watching via Motorola 6412 STB from Comcast Cable in Indianapolis.

Also - it looks like a bunch of the Chief's players are on our side this game
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I'm hearing the fuzz, but from the left channel.

PQ is a 6/10, but this is due to my affiliate (WAFF). They broadcast Weather+ and The Tube. Yeah, it sucks for me.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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KC = Horrible execution


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NBC has been going "blurry" for me regularly for the last two weeks (at least) on live football broadcasts (never happens when it's not live). It's not macroblocking (that's easy to identify), but the broadcast goes blurry maybe once a minute or more then goes slowly back into focus over a couple of seconds. It used to happen consistently when the camera shot changed, now it seems random.

It's very noticeable, especially if you watch the stats bar on the bottom. Pretty annoying.

This is consistent with my observations. However, I have also noticed this all season during the Football Night in America shows. Whenever they would come back to the studio shots from game highlights there would be several seconds of blurriness.
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I'm hearing the fuzz, but from the left channel.

PQ is a 6/10, but this is due to my affiliate (WAFF). They broadcast Weather+ and The Tube. Yeah, it sucks for me.


Does dual broadcast of Weather Plus lower NBC HD PQ?
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Does dual broadcast of Weather Plus lower NBC HD PQ?

Yes.

When a digital station is broadcasting more than the main HD channel, known as subchannel(s), it detracts bandwidth from the HD channel. With 720p, like on ABC & FOX, it's not so bad, but with 1080i, it can result in a noticeable loss of HD image quality. In the case of NBC, which already has network distribution issues, a subchannel can result in even more blocking, as noted above.

In Detroit, our local NBC digital affiliate also has the notorious Weather Plus subchannel, but they run it at a very low bitrate, which minimises the effect on HD.

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So, we've seen a new NBC place holder today, the diminutive Peacock that has flying 'feathers' assembling and disassembling. It seemed to be on for quite a long time.....

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Yes.

When a digital station is broadcasting more than the main HD channel, known as subchannel(s), it detracts bandwidth from the HD channel. With 720p, like on ABC & FOX, it's not so bad, but with 1080i, it can result in a noticeable loss of HD image quality. In the case of NBC, which already has network distribution issues, a subchannel can result in even more blocking, as noted above.

In Detroit, our local NBC digital affiliate also has the notorious Weather Plus subchannel, but they run it at a very low bitrate, which minimises the effect on HD.


That makes sense. Here is Bellingham, not only do we have Weather Plus, we have this other NBC affiliate known as Kong, which has a lot of local NBC programming (news and weather). I wonder if this is having an effect as well?
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