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Colorado, Philadelphia, New York and Boston could also be in for some fun November weather

No, not Boston.
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Personally, I think it has been demonstrated that main stream consumers will go to the new-technology well only so often. It has taken a long time to get HD penetration anywhere near 50%.

And Blu-Ray faces an uphill fight until its hardware (and software) prices come down.

The majority of homes don't have massive screens and don't have home theater systems and seem very happy with their current setups.

So why buy ANOTHER expensive piece of equipment for a marginal increase in quality (and one where you have to wear glasses?)

I just don't see 3D becoming mainstream anywhere near term.

Better the studios should get far less greedy and chop Blu-Ray prices by half (and multiply content by a massive amount) to get folks to the stores.

But I sense regular people are getting a bit tired of being whacked with another new (expensive) tech "upgrade" every few years.

First, HD. Then plasma (more expensive). Then LCD (more expensive). Then 1080p (surprise! more expensive). Then Blu-Ray (far more expensive both for hardware and software).

Now 3D? I don't think so.

I think it will take a lot longer than DVD, but BD will eventually become the dominant format (I know a few people getting BD players because they are around 150 and come with streaming services like Netflix... which they are a tad more interested in than buying BD discs). Players are in the reasonable now, discs need top come down.

Problem with 3D is the tech is not even close to ready. Doesn't help there's simply no standard, red/blue, polarized, shutter all seem to be happening. Not to mention whatever systems that CAN eliminate any kind of eyewear.

And almost nobody seems to be talking about... holographic!

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I'm still in denial about that. Maybe in a few years I'll get over it.

No fooling (2001 series)! BUT, I also will always think of Mo, being an actual human being, showed us he was very much one of our homies.

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And almost nobody seems to be talking about... holographic!

Give 'em a few years. 3-D is a necessary precursor to true holographic projection. But affordable consumer electronics showcasing such technology is many years away. Nobody is clamoring, or even murmuring for it; HD is just now reaching widespread acceptance. Don't worry - when it's ready, we'll be told how badly we need to buy it.
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Yes, by a week.
This season is also delayed by a week by the WBC pre-season series.

But next year game 7 is nov 4....only 1 day earlier....i think this is the new timeline now since they want game 7s to be thursday nite.

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Sunday’s metered market overnight prime-time ratings – along with Media Week Analyst Marc Berman’s view of what they mean -- have been posted at the top of Ratings News -- the second post in this thread.

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If Columbus was italian why doesnt his name end in a vowel ?

Edit: Speaking of which Mike Franscessa "Miked Up" YESHD (WFAN) M-F 1:00-6:20 starts in the new studio today.

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If Columbus was italian why doesnt his name end in a vowel ?

It's Cristoforo Colombo. Christopher Columbus is the Americanized version.
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Yesterday’s fast affiliate overnight prime-time ratings (which include the total viewers and 18-49 demographic estimates) – along with Media Week Analyst Marc Berman’s view of what they mean -- have now been posted at the top of Ratings News -- the second post in this thread.

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Always a pet peeve of mine. Why are names Anglicized? Roma, Napoli, etc. If it's spelled that way, pronounced that way, why not?

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It's Cristoforo Colombo. Christopher Columbus is the Americanized version.

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He let the bulk of Italians call him Cristoforo Colombo (the Genovese form would have been Christoffa Corombo) and the Spaniards call him Cristóbal Colón (and used that form himself in Spain).  So "Christopher Columbus" from Anglophones probably would not have bothered him.
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Versus Earns Highest Rating Ever For Wings-Penguins Game Three

Versus earned a 2.6 cable rating and 2.955 million viewers for Tuesday's (June 2, 2009) Red Wings-Penguins Stanley Cup Finals Game Three, marking the highest-rated and most-viewed Stanley Cup Finals game on cable since '02.

The 2.6 rating also marked the network's best rating ever, ahead of a 2.1 rating for last month's Red Wings-Blackhawks Western Conference Finals Game Five and the final stage of the '05 Tour de France, which was cyclist Lance Armstrong's last victory.

Versus for the 8:00-10:45pm ET time slot ranked as the most-viewed cable network, as well as the highest-rated network overall among all key male demos. The game drew a 15.1 local rating in Detroit and a 26.1 local rating in Pittsburgh.

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Always a pet peeve of mine. Why are names Anglicized? Roma, Napoli, etc. If it's spelled that way, pronounced that way, why not?

When in Rome, I do.

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Problem with 3D is the tech is not even close to ready. Doesn't help there's simply no standard, red/blue, polarized, shutter all seem to be happening.

Don't know if HOTP is the right place for this, but since the subject was brought up ...

Circular polarized TV displays should be out next year. I don't think there will be a huge premium for them. A drawback is that the each of the filters have a 1-2 stop light loss, and since that's a hit on both the display and the glasses it's 2-4 stops total. LCD displays are already very bright so they are probably the best candidates.

I've always dismissed 3D as a novelty, but some recent demos have shown some impressive results. Football just looked amazing on the ground cameras. Gaming is also an obvious area that could benefit. The glasses are a drawback, but at least now with CP they are passive and don't require one to be sure that their head isn't tilted (as with linear polarization). Digital acquisition allows stable registration which reduces or eliminates the headaches from uncorrelated left/right motion jitter.

3D will probably only be supported in HD and Blu-Ray - no SD and DVDs. While I don't think this alone will accelerate the adoption of Blu-Ray, I think it could help - maybe just a little. The irony is that the players may become more popular than the format if consumers buy them for their streaming abilities. That brings up another possibility - 3D streams.
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Always a pet peeve of mine. Why are names Anglicized? Roma, Napoli, etc. If it's spelled that way, pronounced that way, why not?

He because for a couple of hundred years or so, Brits were (or at least thought they were) the best thing on the planet since the Roman Empire???
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Nielsen Overnights
Is Family Guy the New Sunday Night King?
From James Hibberd's Hollywood Reporter 'Live Feed' Blog - October 12th, 2009

ABC's "Desperate Housewives" has been the longtime Sunday ratings leader among entertainment programming.

But so far this season, another show has taken the top spot: Fox's "Family Guy."

What's happened is that "Housewives" has eroded in the Nielsens, while "Family Guy" has been bolstered by its new spinoff lead-in -- "The Cleveland Show," which replaced the modestly performing "King of the Hill."

Until this season, "Family Guy" has never beaten "Housewives," according to Fox. Yet for the past couple weeks, "Family Guy" has edged out the ABC soap.

Last night might be no exception -- the numbers are very tight -- but the preliminary ratings suggest "Family Guy" may once again be the king of the night, despite slipping from last week.

NBC's "Sunday Night Football" led the otherwise sluggish and somewhat inconclusive evening. The Indianapolis vs. Tennessee game (13.8 million, 5.5 preliminary adults 18-49 rating) was tops on NBC.

CBS was in second place because of some NFL overrun that disrupted its other shows in these early numbers: "Amazing Race" (10.8 million, 3.1) and "Three Rivers" (7.7 million, 1.9) were seemingly on par, with "Cold Case" (7.2 million, 1.7) dipping.

ABC's "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" (9.8 million, 3.0) and "Desperate Housewives" (13.1 million, 4.4) both fell 12%, and "Brothers & Sisters" (9 million, 2.9) dropped 9%.

Without an NFL lead-in this week, Fox's comedies took hits -- "Simpsons" (7.5 million, 3.6) down 18%, "Cleveland Show" (7.8 million, 3.8) down 14%, "Family Guy" (8.9 million, 4.5) down 12% and "American Dad" (6.7 million, 3.4) down 6%.

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Had you kept up with the topic specifically about Burn Notice?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...908119&page=14
The "Look" of the show was discussed quite a bit. So far I have not heard any comparisons between the broadcast episodes and the Blu-Ray disks.

I wrote a quick comparison in that thread right here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post16727619


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ABC Orders Full Season of 'FlashForward'
Sci-fi thriller has performed solidly in 8 p.m. time slot, topping the once-dominant 'Survivor' on CBS

By Marisa Guthrie -- Broadcasting & Cable, 10/12/2009

ABC has ordered a full season of FlashForward. The Thursday night drama has performed solidly in its 8 p.m. time slot, topping the once-dominant Survivor on CBS in the 18-49 demographic that advertisers pay a premium to reach.

Additionally, the show is showing an extra boost from DVR playback. The premiere of FlashForward added 2 million viewers (12.5 million to 14.5 million) and almost an entire ratings point (4.1 rating to 4.9 rating) in the 18-49 demo from initially reported next-day numbers to DVR finals.

The sci-fi thriller is the heir apparent to Lost with ABC executives banking it can fill the void when Lost finishes its run next year.

The network last week gave full-season orders to freshman laughers The Middle, Modern Family and Cougar Town.

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Premiere week DVR results:
'Dollhouse,' 'Smallville' top gain list

From The Hollywood Reporter LiveFeed blog, Oct. 127, 2009

Premiere week DVR data is here and the results show that Fox's "Dollhouse" gained a higher percentage of additional viewers than nearly any other show.

The "Dollhouse" premiere rating jumped a stunning 50% when seven-day viewing is added.

Granted, the "Dollhouse" base was extremely low -- the show went from a 1.0 rating to a 1.5. Many other shows during premiere week obviously gained far more than a half a rating point. But executives often compare how much a show gained relative to its initial live-plus-same-day number, and to boost your rating by 50% is huge (by comparison, last season's "Dollhouse" premiere gain was 30%).

The CW's "Smallville," which also airs Friday nights, likewise gained 50%, tying "Dollhouse" for the biggest percentage gain.

"Dollhouse" has been doing pretty dreadful, but this news coupled with Friday's modest ratings increase will likely give some hope to Joss Whedon fans ... the question is whether either will impact the show's fate.

The program with the largest overall rating increase based on raw gains -- not a percentage compared to its original number -- during premiere week was ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" (which boosted its adult demo number from 6.7 to 8.2) followed by another Fox drama, "House" (6.8 to 8.2). Other top climbers based on sheer gains include "The Office" (3.9 to 4.9) and "The Mentalist" (3.6 to 4.6).

Shifting back to percentage increases, after "Dollhouse" and "Smallville," the next-biggest DVR gainer is the CW's "90210," climbing 40%.

Fox's "Fringe" is next on the list, up 39% -- no surprise considering its tough new Thursday time period.

Then "Melrose Place" (+38%) and "Gossip Girl" (+36%). Again, not a surprise, since the CW often post high percentage gains thanks to its low base and young DVR-savvy audience.

Another Friday night show, NBC's "Law & Order" is next (+33%), followed by NBC's "Heroes" (+32%).

Few more in the top spots: Fox's "Bones" (+29%), CBS' "The Mentalist" (+28%), CBS' "Numbers" (+28%), ABC's "Castle" (+26%), Fox's "Glee" (+26%) and NBC's "The Office" (+26%).

Though I haven't seen a breakdown on this point yet, I'm sure the average gain for premiere week is higher than it was last year.

So let's skip down to the bottom of the list and see who's gaining the least.

Among what's interesting down here is that Fox's "Dollhouse" lead-in, the new comedy "Brothers," was one of the least time-shifted shows -- gaining, well, when rounded it's 0%. Which proves that just because a scripted show is on Fridays doesn't mean people will necessarily check it out later and makes "Dollhouse" look more heroic for climbing 50% right afterward.

NBC's "The Jay Leno Show" occupied many of the lower spots, generally gaining about a tenth of a rating point (or 5%).

CBS' "Cold Case" (+5%) and freshman sitcom "Accidentally on Purpose" (+6%) don't seem to be on many viewers season pass list.

Neither are Fox's Sunday animated comedies -- which is surprising. Especially with many guys watching "Sunday Night Football," you would think shows like "Cleveland" and "American Dad" would climb more than 8%.

Viewers seem to be watching popular new shows "NCIS: Los Angeles" (11%) and ABC's "Cougar Town" (11%) either live or not at all.

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Comcast Seeks NBC Sports Muscle

By Sam Schechner, The Wall Street Journal, October 12, 2009

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The expanded NBC Universal would combine both companies' rights to college football, hockey and golf. It would have NBC's rights to the Olympics in 2010 and 2012 and NFL games through 2013. A deal could also give NBC Sports access to cable subscription fees, which would put it in a better position to keep up with growing sports-rights costs.

Comcast's Versus and Golf Channel already receive about $400 million in yearly subscription fees, according to industry estimates. In addition, Comcast could try to push paid distribution for NBC's fledgling Universal Sports channel.

Among the possibilities for the combined company would be for Comcast to air football games simultaneously on multiple channels, with each offering different camera angles, a person familiar with the matter says. Comcast could also put large swaths of Olympics footage in its video-on-demand service, the person says.

"If this merger goes through, they become a much, much stronger competitor to ESPN. And they threaten to dominate CBS and Fox," says Neal H. Pilson, a sports-media consultant and former president of CBS Sports.

Spokesmen for ESPN and CBS both decline to comment. A spokesman for Fox says the company "has a big event sports strategy nationally, and we don't see that changing." Fox Sports and The Wall Street Journal are owned by News Corp.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...075917016.html

In other words, if/when this happens, Fox is going to have to spend a fortune to keep the NFC package when the renewal agreements come up.
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That won't be until after the 2013 season. And who knows how the landscape will have changed by then.
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If you want to see full DVR viewing lists, you can find them here:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/12...r-futile/30214
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In other words, if/when this happens, Fox is going to have to spend a fortune to keep the NFC package when the renewal agreements come up.

I believe FOX/News Corp has much deeper pockets than CBS, I would think CBS would be the ones in danger of losing that Sunday football.
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They might have deeper pockets, but in recent years they've shown no interest in emptying those pockets for sports rights. Rather, Fox has gradually but continually sold off its sports empire to cable entities because, let's be honest, the economics just aren't there anymore to justify Fox holding all those rights given the marginal benefits and the enormous cost. When Fox was a fledgling second-rate network, major sports coverage gave it clout. It doesn't need sports to maintain that clout anymore.

Now, maybe Fox would get in a bidding war with CBS over the AFC package, but the bottom line is if Comcast wants the NFC, it will get the NFC because it has the most money and the most attractive distribution options for the NFL.

And, who knows? If ESPN feels threatened by NBC-Comcast, maybe ABC throws its hat into the ring for a Sunday afternoon package plus SuperBowl rights as well, especially if ESPN ends up losing the bidding war with NBC-Comcast that is apparently coming for the 2016 Olympics.
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I sure hope we don't have to suffer thru NFL, or major college games, on Versus. They have the worst HD football presentation I have ever seen. Maybe it will improve by 2013 though.
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I believe FOX/News Corp has much deeper pockets than CBS, I would think CBS would be the ones in danger of losing that Sunday football.

Wouldn't be the first time.
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"You're watching Comcast on NBC"

"You're watching Versus on NBC"
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"You're watching Comcast on NBC"

"You're watching Versus on NBC"

How about:
You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the Twilight Zone!

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'Southland' might have new home at TNT
Sophomore series was canceled last week
By Nellie Andreeva, The Hollywood Reporter - October 12th, 2009

Four days after the abrupt cancellation of sophomore series "Southland" by NBC, chatter intensifies that the gritty cop drama may find a second home at TNT.

TNT was an obvious choice as it shares a corporate parent with Warner Bros. TV, which produces the critically praised series with studio-based John Wells Prods.

But sources on Monday indicated that talks between the two sides are advancing.

"We continually look at all programming opportunities that fit our portfolio of brands," TNT said in a statement.

"Southland," which stars Benjamin McKenzie, shot six episodes of its second season before being shut down by NBC last week.

TNT has been active in the cop drama genre, from its biggest hit, "The Closer" to its most recent offering, "Dark Blue," both from WBTV's sister Warner Horizon.

TNT has yet to decide on the future of "Dark Blue," which recently wrapped its first season.

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Premiere week DVR data is here and the results show that Fox's "Dollhouse" gained a higher percentage of additional viewers than nearly any other show.

The "Dollhouse" premiere rating jumped a stunning 50% when seven-day viewing is added.

Granted, the "Dollhouse" base was extremely low -- the show went from a 1.0 rating to a 1.5. Many other shows during premiere week obviously gained far more than a half a rating point. But executives often compare how much a show gained relative to its initial live-plus-same-day number, and to boost your rating by 50% is huge (by comparison, last season's "Dollhouse" premiere gain was 30%).

The DVR numbers must have helped because Fox has now publicly committed to airing all of "Dollhouse's" S2 13 episodes throughout even the November Sweeps month: http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/fox-w...-episodes.html.
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