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When will this be shown, any idea?

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It would have to be made first, and that is looking less and less likely.
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I thought HBO announced they were going to do one last show to close the series.

I want Deadwood back by the way. We should storm HBO. Deadwood was the only reason I was watching HBO, since the Sopranos started sucking so bad.

And, why is Inside The NFL not in HD. Good lord.

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I thought they signed on to do two 2 hour movies?
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No, they announced that they are planning 2 - 2 hour movies to wrap up the aborted season 4. There has been no concrete move to actually following up on that announcement (which indicated filming would be this summer).

None of the actors have been notified of plans to start filming.
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Well. I just spoke to HBO and they said they don't know anything.

Well I already knew they do not know anything otherwise they would not be cancelling this show.

Well, no reason to have HBO anymore.

Bye, Bye HBO!!!!!!

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Funny it was exactly a year ago today this article came out http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/06/05/hb...deadwood-deal/ and this one http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/h...on-1008700.php

Happy anniversary deadwood fans
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Well. I just spoke to HBO and they said they don't know anything...

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Funny it was exactly a year ago today this article came out http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/06/05/hb...deadwood-deal/ and this one http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/h...on-1008700.php

Happy anniversary deadwood fans

Happy anniversary, indeed. That was the announcement that CPanther was talking about, see post #5, above. Those of us who loved the Deadwood series, which probably includes everyone who has posted to this thread, have been waiting with bated breath for some further word concerning the two, two hour movies to wrap up the series. Alas none has come in a year, so it is appearing more and more likely that Deadwood is, well, dead. At least the DVDs of Season Three will ship on 12 June - mine are preordered from Amazon.
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There were those who said last year that that whole 2 telemovie thing was just a sop to shut up the grumbling fans, that they'd never do it. Sadly, it's looking more and more like that pessimistic view was the correct one. Me, I'm just a coc%*#!&ing optimist.

What will be even worse is if 'John from Cincy' really does suck, as is being leaked. Losing 'Deadwood' was bad enough; losing it for nothing really, uh, sucks.
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There were those who said last year that that whole 2 telemovie thing was just a sop to shut up the grumbling fans, that they'd never do it. Sadly, it's looking more and more like that pessimistic view was the correct one. Me, I'm just a coc%*#!&ing optimist.

What will be even worse is if 'John from Cincy' really does suck, as is being leaked. Losing 'Deadwood' was bad enough; losing it for nothing really, uh, sucks.

"As is being leaked" where ? In the last 40 years, I've yet to find a human being who can reliably tell me whether a movie or TV series is any good, probably because there are so many variables.

In any event, if John From Cincinnati fails, then it makes two 2-hour Deadwood movies more likely, because Milch will have nothing better to do...
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I was one of those skeptics, and I agree, if John from Cincinnati really is a stinker, maybe Milch will be more motivated to go back and finish Deadwood.
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It bears repeating that this decision regarding Deadwood was primarily David Milch's decision. If you're angry, at least direct your anger in the appropriate direction.
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It bears repeating that this decision regarding Deadwood was primarily David Milch's decision. If you're angry, at least direct your anger in the appropriate direction.

I'm not sure that's true. HBO has been on a cost-cutting tear of late and Deadwood was one of it's more expensive series and, along with Carnivale and Rome, was targeted for extinction. It's not entirely certain who was more at fault, but my money's on Chris Albrect (may he not rest in peace) and his merry band of pennypenching, bean-counting weasels. There's no way Milch wouldn't have wanted to finish out Deadwood properly with a strong fourth season. He "agreed" with what he had to agree with.
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I'm not sure that's true. HBO has been on a cost-cutting tear of late and Deadwood was one of it's more expensive series and, along with Carnivale and Rome, was targeted for extinction. It's not entirely certain who was more at fault, but my money's on Chris Albrect (may he not rest in peace) and his merry band of pennypenching, bean-counting weasels. There's no way Milch wouldn't have wanted to finish out Deadwood properly with a strong fourth season. He "agreed" with what he had to agree with.

No matter the reasons. Loopy f@#$%n c*^ts.
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I'm not sure that's true. HBO has been on a cost-cutting tear of late and Deadwood was one of it's more expensive series and, along with Carnivale and Rome, was targeted for extinction. It's not entirely certain who was more at fault, but my money's on Chris Albrect (may he not rest in peace) and his merry band of pennypenching, bean-counting weasels. There's no way Milch wouldn't have wanted to finish out Deadwood properly with a strong fourth season. He "agreed" with what he had to agree with.

agreed. It simply would make no sense for the writer not to want to finish a masterpiece.
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It bears repeating that this decision regarding Deadwood was primarily David Milch's decision. If you're angry, at least direct your anger in the appropriate direction.

We can argue that all day long. The way I read it was HBO recommended to Milch that he do a short season, and that Milch replied he rather not do Deadwood at all if that were the case. Milch started off planning on a Season 4, it's HBO that wanted it cut to a mini season at the very least. If HBO wanted Deadwood for Season 4, they would have gotten Deadwood for Season 4, with or without Milch.

If you want furth proof, then ask yourself why Milch would try to raise $60 million dollars himself to get Season 4 filmed?
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...605270321/1326
Not exactly the actions of a guy who wanted to call it quits. When push came to shove, Milch shut his mouth rather than piss HBO off.
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Well, the "nuts" worked for Jericho - what would be appropriate to send to HBO for a Deadwood message?
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It is not exactly being "leaked" but two prominent TV critics, (both, by the way, major "Deadwood" and Milch fans), have seen the first three hours and both say it is bad. Very bad.

Of course YMMMV. They are just offering their opinions. More (and real full-length) reviews will start coming tomorrow in major papers. And again, ALL the critics can say a show sucks and any or all of us are free to disagree.

As to getting another "Deadwood" done if Milch as nothing better to do -- he isn't the only one involved. The cast members may or may not be available. And while you could do a four-hour set of movies without some of them, you certainly would need the vast majority of them -- and virtually all the key players.

The more time that goes by the less chance there is of that happening -- whether Milch has anything better to do or not.


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"As is being leaked" where ? In the last 40 years, I've yet to find a human being who can reliably tell me whether a movie or TV series is any good, probably because there are so many variables.

In any event, if John From Cincinnati fails, then it makes two 2-hour Deadwood movies more likely, because Milch will have nothing better to do...

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Well, the "nuts" worked for Jericho - what would be appropriate to send to HBO for a Deadwood message?

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I will be boycotting "John in Cincy" in hopes it bombs to get the movies made. What I mean by boycotting is setting up the dvr, read the reviews from some of the posters on this forum and if people are saying it is a good show then I will cave.

I really don't see the movies getting done

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If you want furth proof, then ask yourself why Milch would try to raise $60 million dollars himself to get Season 4 filmed?

because he's eccentric and slightly crazy. If he had raised $60 million he might then have decided that he had a better idea for the money and gone with that. That's if he didn't change his mind 5 minutes after saying it to begin with.


Of reports that he had intended for "Deadwood" to run four seasons, Milch has this to say: "You know, the big thing to keep in mind when you hear those sorts of statements that I had planned on a fourth season on this -- I'm a sociopath. You know, someone asked me, how long do you intend to do 'Deadwood'? And as part of my sociopathology, I say, 'Well, when does my contract run out?' And I realize my contract ran out at the end of four seasons. So I'm thinking, 'How does the kid exert the most leverage in the negotiating package for four seasons?' ...

"So the answer is, I never had a specific -- listen, when I pitched 'Deadwood,' I pitched it as a series set in Rome at the time of the Nero. Does that sound like I know what I'm talking about?"


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Wow, rather than admit that Milch wanted to do season 4, you would rather believe he was going to raise $60 million to film it, then swindle his investors??
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because he's eccentric and slightly crazy. If he had raised $60 million he might then have decided that he had a better idea for the money and gone with that. That's if he didn't change his mind 5 minutes after saying it to begin with.

Of reports that he had intended for "Deadwood" to run four seasons, Milch has this to say: "You know, the big thing to keep in mind when you hear those sorts of statements that I had planned on a fourth season on this -- I'm a sociopath. You know, someone asked me, how long do you intend to do 'Deadwood'? And as part of my sociopathology, I say, 'Well, when does my contract run out?' And I realize my contract ran out at the end of four seasons. So I'm thinking, 'How does the kid exert the most leverage in the negotiating package for four seasons?' ...

"So the answer is, I never had a specific -- listen, when I pitched 'Deadwood,' I pitched it as a series set in Rome at the time of the Nero. Does that sound like I know what I'm talking about?"

I agree that Milch is a mad genius but the quote seems to demonstrate that Milch was jerking some journalists chain. It read like a passive-aggressive rant from a guy who is a little hostile and anything but interested in conveying anything like inside information.

EDIT: Edited to correct a typo.
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Wow, rather than admit that Milch wanted to do season 4, you would rather believe he was going to raise $60 million to film it, then swindle his investors??

Swindle, no. Convince them he has a better idea, yes. When Milch is passionate about an idea he'll get it done and it sounds like he has the ability to make you go along with it, but only when he feels like it.

Which is why Deadwood movies might have been interesting for him back in 2006 when that article was written, but it's 2007 now and he's not so enthused.


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Looks like its over to me:

TV Guide: What's the state of the supposed finales?
Boothe: We're planning on doing two two-hour movies this summer. They're talking about [starting production in] June, but I'll tell you, honestly, as much as I hope it happens, I'll believe it when I see it. When a cast splits up, it's hard to bring them back together.

TV Guide: Do you mean that the fate of the movies is in jeopardy?
Boothe: If we don't do it in June, I don't think it'll ever be done, because, look, various people have pilots for other series. I have other commitments, and I know Ian [McShane] has other commitments. That [June] time slot is kind of it. But I think if any show ever deserved at least that much, it's Deadwood.


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Deadwood ('04 to '06) was an uphill climb, too. Laced with foul language and explicit sex, it eventually found a small, but rabid, audience and critical acclaim.

HBO didn't order a fourth season, so Milch committed to writing two Deadwood TV movies to tie up storylines as soon as John wraps in early July. Don't bet on it. Sounds like he's wavering - "We will see, when the time comes."

Timing has never been a Milch strong suit. He's notorious for working episode to episode, eschewing season-long outlines. Sometimes, actors are handed scripts just minutes before cameras roll.

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Deadwood ('04 to '06) was an uphill climb, too. Laced with foul language and explicit sex, it eventually found a small, but rabid, audience and critical acclaim.

HBO didn't order a fourth season, so Milch committed to writing two Deadwood TV movies to tie up storylines as soon as John wraps in early July. Don't bet on it. Sounds like he's wavering - "We will see, when the time comes."

Timing has never been a Milch strong suit. He's notorious for working episode to episode, eschewing season-long outlines. Sometimes, actors are handed scripts just minutes before cameras roll.

As VisionOn noted in an earlier post, fredfa posted the foregoing in the Hot of the Press thread.

Those of us who were Deadwood fans from the beginning will remember how many posters to the Deadwood thread expressed hostility to the show. A lot of folks had a lot of trouble coming to terms with it, especially in its early days.
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