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post #1 of 283 Old 09-06-2007, 09:44 PM - Thread Starter
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What are people's feelings on this show? The clips i've seen have looked solid, and I liked the lead guy (alex o' loughlin i think) from when he was on the shield.
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I'll pass. This show has every indication of being a train wreck. They threw everything away from the pilot except the lead actor. New cast, new location, new concept, new show runners, new name, everything. The network commited to basically a ripoff of "Forever Knight" without a cast locked or a visionary driving the show. That can't possibly lead to quality television.
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^I was thinking more of a ripoff of Angel, but thats just me...the whole vampire trying to fight what he is and do good, and being in love with a mortal woman (ok, Buffy technically isnt mortal either). Sadly, Ill probably end up watching the first episode just to see what its about since Im a sucker for a genre show, but I agree it doesnt sound too promising.
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I'll pass. This show has every indication of being a train wreck. They threw everything away from the pilot except the lead actor. New cast, new location, new concept, new show runners, new name, everything. The network commited to basically a ripoff of "Forever Knight" without a cast locked or a visionary driving the show. That can't possibly lead to quality television.

The producers have said that while greenwalt did have to leave the show, he left a pretty big imprint on the show, and it wasn't like he left over the ubiquitous "creative differences" but that he has some personal issues to deal with. I think this series has hope.
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It won't see past 10 epi's...

Lets start a pool?
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The producers have said that while greenwalt did have to leave the show, he left a pretty big imprint on the show, and it wasn't like he left over the ubiquitous "creative differences" but that he has some personal issues to deal with. I think this series has hope.

I always give these type of shows at least one viewing. In some cases it pays off, such as when Invasion a couple of seasons back did and Threshold didn't.
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The producers have said that while greenwalt did have to leave the show, he left a pretty big imprint on the show, and it wasn't like he left over the ubiquitous "creative differences" but that he has some personal issues to deal with. I think this series has hope.

According to friends on the crew, it was *absolutely* about creative differences. And by the way, they are now on their 4th showrunner before airing a single episode. Yikes.
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Well thats kind of unfortunate if true. I still think it looks promising. I'll be watching on the 28th.
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just hope it's sill decent. Pilot was nothing special but was good enough to watch a few more eps of.

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^I was thinking more of a ripoff of Angel, but thats just me...

To be fair, some aspects of Angel were a ripoff of Forever Knight. Perhaps not consciously on the part of Joss Whedon, but definately some influence there.

Though also to be fair, if you go back far enough and break down small enough, most things are a ripoff of something else.

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To be fair, some aspects of Angel were a ripoff of Forever Knight. Perhaps not consciously on the part of Joss Whedon, but definately some influence there.

Though also to be fair, if you go back far enough and break down small enough, most things are a ripoff of something else.

Like Dark Shadows...
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Yeah the ripoff criticism for any show (unless its completely blatant, which this is not) is really silly. There are rarely truly original ideas and thoughts that see the light of day. Moonlight might look a little like angel or forever knight, or whatever, but if the show is good..what does that matter?
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I agree.. The only time I complain about a "ripoff" is when it is inferior. Angel did some things different and some other things better than Forever Knight, so I was ok with comparisons.

A lot of people don't realize, as another example, that the Incredible Hulk premise (aside from the Marvel comic character of course) was largely based upon the Fugitive... and in a weirder twist... one of the writers on Hulk later modified one of his scripts and turned it in again for an episode of Walker Texas Ranger!

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A lot of people don't realize, as another example, that the Incredible Hulk premise (aside from the Marvel comic character of course) was largely based upon the Fugitive... and in a weirder twist... one of the writers on Hulk later modified one of his scripts and turned it in again for an episode of Walker Texas Ranger!

That is ironic on so many levels, not least of which is how it speaks to the derivative nature of so many TV dramas. They're pretty much all interchangeable.
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Agreed. Which is exactly why I'm giving moonlight a try next friday.
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the sad part is...15 million people will probably tune in *just because* it's on CBS.

I wish Fox and ABC got this kind of sampling for all their new shows....some of them might actually have a chance.
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not normally a huge cbs fan, but moonlight looks better than the majority of what fox and nbc are coming into the season with.
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For a show that hasn't aired yet, you seem to be spending a lot of time shilling for it.
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yeah this show looks kind of interesting...im not sure.
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Aren't Bruno and Cybill Shepherd looking a little wrinkled by now?
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Nice PQ and AQ. Bad, bad, bad show. Just awful.

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That is ironic on so many levels, not least of which is how it speaks to the derivative nature of so many TV dramas. They're pretty much all interchangeable.

"Mannix with fangs" ?
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Okay, so sue me, but I enjoyed it. What can I say, I like vampire shows. Not one review I've read mentioned Kevin Weisman (Marshall from Alias) is in it.

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Okay, so sue me, but I enjoyed it. What can I say, I like vampire shows.

Same here. I found it fun and enteresting. I love vamp shows/movies also.
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Sophia Myles had a terrific turn on Doctor Who last year. She's very watchable.

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Nice PQ and AQ. Bad, bad, bad show. Just awful.

It does have very nice PQ/AQ, it has that typical CBS "polish" to it. The story itself is fairly blah, and I'm really not sure how I feel about the apparent possibility that the little girl he saved 30 years ago is now going to become a love interest, there's just something a little weird about that...

Given that there is literally no competition in it's time slot it will probably be around for at least 13 or so episodes.
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I'm really not sure how I feel about the apparent possibility that the little girl he saved 30 years ago is now going to become a love interest, there's just something a little weird about that...

Only if that was his intent when he saved her.
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Only if that was his intent when he saved her.

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the lead actor is completely wooden and charisma free, a vampire needs to have an intense screen presence.
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"Mannix with fangs" ?


I just want to know if Veronica Mars knew that her boyfriend was a vampire?
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