Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged
As far as I know, the only thing that matters in my case is one SD LiL on spot beam @ 119 which I don't care about
Only thing I will say about that, do you have any (119) SD locals, that are NOT duplicated in HD, that you DO watch? If so, you'll still have issues with them, as they (the 119 SD markets) are NOT duplicated whatsoever on the Ka birds.
... and guide data, which I might care about, if that's the only guide data stream these days. HR21 complained about not receiving any guide data for an hour, which is what alerted me to the signal loss.
If you have an SWM (single wire) LNB, the guide data is pulled from the 101 bird, which then wouldn't matter if you lost 119. But since your receiver IS complaining about "no guide data", I'm assuming your LNB is a legacy. (4-output version) NO, it is not the satellite & YES, you WILL continue to have guide issues...
If you cannot "fix" a tree/leaf issue, (either by doing trimming or moving the dish) you could simply change your legacy 5LNB to a 3LNB type. It's as easy as swapping the LNB, then re-running the dish setup on each receiver to a (legacy) 3LNB type. You would NOT have to alter anything else in your setup; of course, you will NOT get anything off the 110 (no loss there) or 119 birds anymore. (possible SD locals, spanish prog, a few music channels & a couple of free religious PI channels) You can find these LNB's pretty cheap on flea-bay...