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I just stayed a month at a beautiful condo resort on Anna Maria Island between Tampa and Sarasota. Advertised HDTV and had a large flat screen. No HD channels available. I called the rental management, got switched through to the 'TV expert' and she swore that 'Local Channel 9 was now in HD'. I explained that the pic they were looking at was the analog SD pic and that HD would be on a different #, say 809. To no avail. So, I called bright house myself, they assumed I was the owner and they swapped out the ancient cable box for a new HD box, no charge. Got my HD channels.

People are completely clueless about HDTV. They think flat screen = HiDef.
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People are completely clueless about HDTV. They think flat screen = HiDef.

That's not as bad as the folks who still use the same analog TV and reception equipment they've had for years, yet still think they are watching HD just because the banner at the beginning says it's available in HD.


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That's not as bad as the folks who still use the same analog TV and reception equipment they've had for years, yet still think they are watching HD just because the banner at the beginning says it's available in HD.

Seriously, this is one reason that folks have been slow to adopt HDTV. I've heard many clueless folk insist it "doesn't look any better".
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I was at the Renaissance Times Square (a Mariott brand, if you weren't aware) a couple of days before Christmas. They had 37" (if I'm remembering right, a LG 37LC7D, or the hospitality equivalent) LCDs with a few HD channels and, much more impressively, they were connected to a bank of various input ports including HDMI in the cabinet on which the TV sits.

Then I went to a Starwood property in the Boston area that had a comfortingly familiar 32" or so poor quality tube SDTV.
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InterContinental Hotel, Chicago.

Room equipped with an LG 32" LCD - LG32LC5DC
Rear inputs are brought to a breakout box in the front of the cabinet with HDMI, VGA, composite video, RCA audio, 1/8" stereo jack audio inputs. Screen can be swivelled to access the rear component inputs. Input button on TV is not locked out, so all inputs can be selected.

System is LodgeNet based with DirecTV feed of about 45 channels - unfortunately there are no HD channels available - all analog SD.
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InterContinental Hotel, Chicago.

Room equipped with an LG 32" LCD - LG32LC5DC
Rear inputs are brought to a breakout box in the front of the cabinet with HDMI, VGA, composite video, RCA audio, 1/8" stereo jack audio inputs. Screen can be swivelled to access the rear component inputs. Input button on TV is not locked out, so all inputs can be selected.

System is LodgeNet based with DirecTV feed of about 45 channels - unfortunately there are no HD channels available - all analog SD.

Similar setup at the Marriott Copley Place, Boston.

LG 37LC5DCB 37" LCD TV, on swivel stand. LG Remote Jack Pack RJP-110F on the desk with the same inputs as above. On Command (LodgeNet) 81-05062-05 (manufacture date 7-2001, almost certainly no HD capability out of this thing) on the back of the TV. No HD channels. Everything is a pretty lousy looking SD strech of analog channels. Input button on the TV is locked out, so what's the point of the breakout box with the HDMI, VGA, and composite inputs?

At least they've got NESN (SD) as one of the channels, so there's a Red Sox game every night for entertainment...
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the only sports bar in my town ive seen with actual hd content is 'kiplings pub' in brattleboro, vt.
he has a 42" lg set and has real hd sports shows when they're on. and it sports 5.1 in-ceiling sound. (not sure where sub is)

10' from 84" screen.


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I recently stayed at the Ritz Carlton in West Palm Beach. the room we were in had a 42" LCD and had the locals in HD, TNT, and I think Discovery HD Theater. Everything else was in SD.

But they did have a demo channel for their products/services that was in HD. Considering some of the places they showed it was better than DHDT.

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Residence Inn by Marriott, Rt28 & Waxpool Rd. near the Dulles airport in Washington. 36" LG HDTV in the room. Local digitals in HD (but not PBS), ESPN & ESPN2 HD, HBO-HD, Discovery HD Theatre, HDNET & HDNET Movies, Universal HD.
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just stayed at the Hotel Palomar in Dallas and they had 2 32" LG HDTV's in our suite with 10 or so HD channels--ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox and PBS locals, ESPNHD, UniversalHD, TNTHD, HDNet, HDNet Movies. I think that was it.

The LodgeNet remote let you access the TV menus, so you could set the TV to display the correct screen size. (Option for 16:9, 4:3, or let the TV choose based on the signal)
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A rule of thumb I have seen is this:

If a bar has satillite- Stretched SD.

Cable HD!
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Stayed in a Holiday express in Alexandria, La. HDTV was a Plasma, no HD channels at all on cable. They just used it as a selling point "plasma TV's in ever room" but PQ wise sucked the big one with only SD cable showing.


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I laugh at those sport bars that advertise they have hughe TV screens 100" or so, you go there and they have satellite feed and all SD, I ask the employees if they have an HD Feed or OTA but they go "huh?"

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Stayed in a Holiday express in Alexandria, La. HDTV was a Plasma, no HD channels at all on cable. They just used it as a selling point "plasma TV's in ever room" but PQ wise sucked the big one with only SD cable showing.

Same for the Hyatt Regency Chicago... beautiful plasmas in every room, but only SD signals available on cable. On top of that they had the TVs set up with a stretched picture and there was no way to change it. It seemed to stretch only the sides of the picture not the center, so linearity was terrible. The CNN crawl would start out with very wide letters, shrink to normal size in the center and then stretch to very wide letters again on the left side. It was difficult to watch.

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New China Buffet in Bakersfield California has a 52 inch (I think) HDTV. OTA only. For a long time they alwyas showed Sd from the analog channels. Finally they have someone working there who knows the difference between analog and digital channels. The last several times I have been there they are showing digital channels. Most of the time the show was SD only (with bars on the side (local NBC affiliate KGET uses grey bars instead of black, so I am positive that they were truned to the digital signal)). Once they had a real HD program on (Monk on NBC). I have never seen digital channels in any other public place other than a tv store or a station's booth at a fair. Local poker room Golden West Casino recently loasded up with new HDTVs and they are always tuned to analog cable stretchovision (mostly ESPN). Next month I am going to the Californai Extreme classic arcade show in San Jose and staying at the Crowne Plaza hotel again. Last year the rooms had analog stretchovision. I bet 100-1 it is the same this year. Probably even next year they will feed the rooms analog stretchovision!

How can we say "the digital transition is complete" when thousands of low power stations are still broadcasting in analog?
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Stayed in the brand new Intercontinental San Francisco (on Howard St) and they have 42" LG LCDs with a Lodgenet/DirecTV type system I haven't seen before. Really slick, if a bit sluggish, interface. Had typical HD channels ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, Universal HD, HDNet, HDNet Movies. Unfortunately the quality of the HD was very poor. Heavy pixelation at times and never looked good.
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I've been on a personal mission for years on this subject, specifically regarding restaurants and bars which have spent who knows how many thousands of dollars to buy "sexy" HD-capable 16:9 flatscreen televisions to dot their establishments and yet do not go the proper extra mile to feed HD/digital-channel content to them.

Everytime I walk into a place that has these wrongly installed new TVs I ask to speak to the owner or manager, and get into a conversation about the progamming being fed to them. Drives me crazy!

Inevitably the answers are sadly inadequate, indicating that they know nothing about HDTV and only bought the new equipment because "it fit over the bar" or "didn't take up too much room". They typically have absolutely no idea that there is a thing called true 16:9 HD-content or digital channels, different from 4:3 SD channel content (which is inevitably what is presented, displayed "stretched" to fill the screen by some sort of ZOOM on these sets, making it unwatchable for me).

You'd think these people didn't have similar HD-capable sets at their homes so they'd be familiar with the concepts, and yet the owners/managers are inevitably more upscale than average and you'd expect them to have "toys" like this in their personal lives... including some proper HD content provider and equipment.

So who's really at fault in failing to do proper installs? Is it the owner who consciously opted out when offered a choice? Or is it the equipment retailer/installer who failed to offer to do the job right including a possible OTA roof antenna? Or is it the optional content provider (cable/satellite) who failed to offer HDTV services?

As an example, a favorite Chinese restaurant of mine recently underwent a total remodel, including the addition of a sushi bar. Just last week they installed a big good-quality Samsung flatscreen TV over the sushi bar, and also added a shelf nearby for the E* receiver that provides content and it looks like proper DVI/HDMI cabling is present going from receiver to the Samsung (I don't know for sure, but I can't believe it is an RF coax cable). Clearly there's also an E* dish on the roof of the building. So there obviously was a fair amount of work and expense and installation effort in doing all of this, not to mention the thousands of dollars to buy the Samsung and sign up for E* service.

So, why wasn't the extra few dollars per month allocated to pull in HDTV channels and present HDTV content on the Samsung??? Absolutely no idea!!! But what a disservice to the restaurant owner by the "contractor" who did all of the work and probably arranged for all equipment and content.

I had a long conversation with the owner yesterday about it , and he said his partner was responsible. He took care of the food, and the partner took care of the place... including the new TV. I explained that all it took was a few dollars extra a month to swap in an HD-capable E* receiver (assuming the required DVI/HDMI cable was already present and in use), in order to get the absolute maximum value out of his already-large dollar investment, and maximize enjoyment of all his customers and sushi bar patrons.

It's really criminal that "apparently uneducated suckers" like most restaurant/bar owners, apparently, are duped into spending many thousands of dollars to install these flatscreens and are apparently not encouraged/offered to feed proper HDTV/digital content.

My one and only experience with a properly installed HDTV-supplied sports bar (displaying true HD channels from cable) was at "Wickers", a pub in Hicksville LI. Truly astonishing, that of all the restaurants and bars I've been to in as many cities as I've visited that have widescreens on the facilities, that I can count exactly ONE place which actually presents HDTV content.
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One reason is that the owners don't want to pay the cable company for a box for each and every tv (many bars and casinos have a different channel on each tv). Another reason is that so many people have stuck in their head that "NBC is cable channel 3" (as it is here in Bakersfield) and don't know that to get it in HD you have to tune to channel 43 (box) or 43-1 (clear QAM). The only way these people will ever find it is when Bright House eventually discontinues analog cable service, and then probably only if they put it on 3-1!

How can we say "the digital transition is complete" when thousands of low power stations are still broadcasting in analog?
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Maybe the best thing to happen to HDTV will be the death of analog. People may actually wake up at that point, and realize that they have been watching junk. Even if they only shift to digital SD, it will be an improvement.

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It is sad. I notice whether the TV's are in HD as well at these places and they rarely are.
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The sports bar thing has always killed me. In the last couple of months I have been to two bars here in Maine which were heavily advertising the fact that they had HDTV. Both bars did in fact have HDTV's as well as the proper STB to view it but neither was playing it. In one case, they had Direct TV and instead of the box being tuned to 73 for ESPNHD they had it on SD version at 206. I talked to the owner and asked him why and he was puzzled and said that it was on. I asked for the remote and showed him the proper channel and needless to say he was shocked I have seen this particular problem a few times and it should be better now that D* has remapped its HD channels to match the SD. The other time was even more aggravating. I ask the same question of the manager and he became irate and insisted that Comcast had told him that what we were watching was HD. I checked his setup and found that while TV was connected to a Comcast STB with component cables it was also still hooked to the cable on the wall and didn't have a QAM. I switched inputs to component and the manager was still irate but with now with Comcast Of course, when I went in a week later the TV was back in SD mode What really amazes me is that no one else seems to notice. In the case of the first bar the owner said that he had been open a couple of months and I was the first one who had said something to him and that they had been on the wrong channels the whole time

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Your post saved me a lot of typing.

I memorized both the DirecTV and Dish Network HD sports channel numbers, due to going to sports bars that pay for the HD channels and then have 80 inch plasmas tuned to the SD channel.
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I'm the A/V Engineer for the Hard Rock Hotel here in Vegas. We now have HD channels and movies in our rooms. Not all channels are HD but there are quite a few, ESPN, ESPN2, Discovery, etc.
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Mandalay Bay Las Vegas, 42" Philips plasma in the room. Appears to have all the local HDs, ESPN, ESPN2, MHD, MOJO, and some others via Cox cable. Very nice.

The 1080i channels show a lot of pixelation on fast motion, so either the hotel distribution system or Cox Las Vegas are doing some bandwidth shaping.

Channel changing is painfully slow waiting for the TV to lock into the QAM channels.

There's also a 15" 4:3 Philips "HD" TV on a wall mount in the bathroom, but only gets the standard hotel-issue SD analog channels.

Balancing signals in a hotel is a big challenge, especially for the system Mandalay, and us, are using.

Then again pixelating could be a bad IRC.
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There's a McDonald's near me that installed a big flat screen TV last year and it's always tuned properly to one of the HD ESPN channels.
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Maybe the best thing to happen to HDTV will be the death of analog. People may actually wake up at that point, and realize that they have been watching junk. Even if they only shift to digital SD, it will be an improvement.

People have been watching digital SD ever since they got DVD players. Unfortunately DVD quality is the most that many people expect from video right now.

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I think part of the problem is the people installing HDTV and paying for the HDTV are not the people waqtching the HDTVs. If you paid a lot of money for a home HDTV and it had a disapointing picture you would do some research and fix it (at least many do). Like I said, those paying for and installing the HDTV in hotels etc do not watch them so they are clueless.

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I stayed at Mohegan Sun (hotel/casino) in August and surprisingly, in the room was a 20'' curved SDTV. I mean it's an amazing building, it wasn't constructed too long ago and they still don't have HDTVs in the rooms.
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People have been watching digital SD ever since they got DVD players. Unfortunately DVD quality is the most that many people expect from video right now.

They aren't even watching SD digital. They are watching analog! SD digital on my Durabrand tube set looks much better than analog stretchovision on a 52 inch plasma!

How can we say "the digital transition is complete" when thousands of low power stations are still broadcasting in analog?
LOW POWER ANALOG NEEDS TO DIE NOW!!!
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Ahh, local places piss me off with this. My local McDonalds has a nice 40" LCD, however it is always SD ESPN. I rarely walk into the McDonalds, on occasion my order gets wrong and I have to fix it, but I'm not really watching and could care less. At a local pizza place that I eat at frequently however, they have a nice TV with no HD service. I talked to the owner and he told me he was aware of it and was also upset because he had HD at home with D*. He said that Comcast installed it at the restaurant and told him this was HD. Well it was obviously the ESPN SD since it didn't show the ESPN HD logo, and it was stretched. I made sure the TV was connected via component, he handed me the remote, put it in 'Normal' in the Settings as well as 1080i, then found all of the HD channels in the 400 range. Now everytime I walk in its ESPN HD and the owner refers to me as the TV Guy. It is kinda funny and shows I have too much time on my hands and care way too much
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At a local pizza place that I eat at frequently however, they have a nice TV with no HD service. I talked to the owner and he told me he was aware of it and was also upset because he had HD at home with D*. He said that Comcast installed it at the restaurant and told him this was HD. Well it was obviously the ESPN SD since it didn't show the ESPN HD logo, and it was stretched. I made sure the TV was connected via component, he handed me the remote, put it in 'Normal' in the Settings as well as 1080i, then found all of the HD channels in the 400 range. Now everytime I walk in its ESPN HD and the owner refers to me as the TV Guy. It is kinda funny and shows I have too much time on my hands and care way too much

Nice job!! Excellent work!

I had a similar incident just today, when I called up the "Daily Grill" in Sherman Oaks CA to speak to the general manager about the new HDTV's they'd installed over the bar as part of their recent major remodel. I'd been in there last week and was horrified to see them watching a basketball game in stretched-SD!

Anyway, he was very responsive and knew full well about what I was talking, as he himself has HD in his home from TWC (although he thought there was no such thing as a HD-DVR, which I enlightened him about and he will call TWC today). He said the bartenders knew what channels were "digital", and I mentioned to him that really they were actually ALL digital but that not all of them were HD, and that was the key difference.

He said they'd spent about $18,000 on the bar-area makeover including the new large flatscreens and TWC service, and I suggested they spend maybe an extra $5/month (if even necessary, since they don't actually need a DVR) to ensure that they had a proper HD-capable receiver. For all I know they might even already have such a receiver and are simply tuning to the wrong channels.

I suggested they check the receiver, check the cabling from receiver to TV's, and then if necessary call TWC to do whatever is needed to ensure that their $18,000 investment in TV hardware provides maximum enjoyment for the restaurant customers who were presumably the beneficiaries of this investment.

He understood perfectly what I was talking about, laughed mightily, and guaranteed me that the next time I come in if I didn't see HD content on the screens to call him again and he would comp my bill.

We all need to do our part to spread the word, and educate the general tech-savvyless public.
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