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They'll probably just replace it with reruns of House and Bones. As for cable versus network shows cable is considered a success with a much lower audience. I don't know why. I'll ask in the HOTP topic.
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Because people are paying for cable!

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Because people are paying for cable!

Broadcasters pay the networks for carriage too so why does that matter?.
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Boyd was very calm and composed when cleaning up the scene, like he has done it many times before. I have a feeling his back story is a rough one. How is he able to consider the Dollhouse just a job?! Others seem to be emotionally spent basket cases, yet nothing seems to faze him.

Could be he's a mole. I suspect there are two, and he may be one of them.
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That's the main reason why I blame networks for some things. If people aren't watching, I know why the show will go away... but what I don't understand is why networks don't "see" this going in and either change their operational procedures for promoting/scheduling such a show OR just pass on it in the first place.

On another front... I forgot about FX. I suppose they could move this show to FX and make it work... but that doesn't seem to be FOX's MO... NBC has shown to move somethings between NBC/Universal/USA/SciFi at least for re-airings... but I haven't seen other networks do this as much.

Of course, I also argue that if the show can be a winner on FX why couldn't it be a winner on FOX?

One thing I always ask when a show is canceled is what do they replace it with? If they replace Dollhouse with another failed/failing show then I say the networks still aren't getting "it".

As an example... Terminator was canceled (and I understand why) but replaced with two not-good comedies on the Friday lineup. While I get the reasons why they let Terminator go... it's not like they picked winners to replace it with.

I don't know, HD -- way back when there really WERE just the networks and very few, in any cable channels (what cable channels there were didn't have any original programming, other than the Pay channels, like HBO, and that was limited to something like "Inside the NFL"), even THEN sometimes the networks would cancel a new show after ONE episode (anyone remember "Julia?") BUT then they at least seemed to have some sort of reasoning behind things.

The thinking seems to be that there are always so many pilots "in the wings" that if a show bites the dust, "So what? We have another one ready." But audiences are so fickle, and network execs seem to have NO CLUE as to what audiences will like (and I'm not sure any of us would do better, for that matter). Sometimes the stupidest shows (like "Laverne & Shirley") turn into MEGAHITS... NOBODY seems to be able to explain this stuff. Comedy seems to be a bit easier to hit with, but even with hour-long dramas and Sci-Fi, why did "Fringe" make it and "11th Hour" didn't? I watched BOTH shows. Some folks compared them to one another. I didn't see that much in common except that they both involved a hot female FBI agent and a few strange cases (although "11th Hour" was NEVER about the sort of "fringe science" "Fringe" is). Frankly, I thought "11th Hour" was equally compelling in a different way, even better in some ways, but it's gone, and "Fringe" is bigger than ever.

Even those of who are fans of "Dollhouse" see lots of issues with the show, so none of us are surprised that barring a miracle it's gone after this season. But I agree with you that whatever replaces it is likely to be no better. I was LIVID when CBS cancelled "Moonlight" after one season... and then when they REPLACED IT with that COMPLETELY IDIOTIC show about the woman who see's a psychic who tells her she has to date all her old boyfriends to find her "true love," GEESH! I could tell from the VERY FIRST PROMO that show was GONNA BOMB... Never watched it, and it was GONE in three weeks! No surprise to me! I thought "Moonlight" was a pretty decent vampire show (had a few issues with just shielding his face from the sun with his hand when outside, instead of WEARING A HAT, lol, but overall, I liked the show). The ratings weren't great, but they didn't SUCK, either.

To me, TV execs are sorta like kids playing in a sandbox with too many toys and no supervision. They never know which toy to play with and which one to throw out.

I agree "Dollhouse" would likely linger with about the same ratings on Fox ad infinitum, BUT it may do much better (or the same, so relatively better) on FX or SciFi, given the chance, not that it's likely to get it... Unless... should we... start a campaign?

Is it worth it?

I don't know.
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Worst 10 TV theme songs: 'Dollhouse' to 'American Idol,' '90210' to 'Cleveland Show'

"Dollhouse"

If the unholy illegitimate musical love child of Enya and the Cocteau Twins recorded a soft-core porn lullaby, it might sound something like this. I find myself sitting up at the end of the titles and asking, "Was I asleep?"

OUCH
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I don't think the song is that bad. It does get stuck in my head sometimes. I think that's a good thing though.
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Yeah...I've always hated the theme song and the opening....

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You know, guys, I like the show too and would like it to continue. But people are not watching it. And this time it's not Fox's fault. It's a difficult concept, and the only sympathetic characters don't really have personalities (by definition). Audiences don't adopt shows because of concepts; they look for characters they can relate to, whose lives they can get into. That's the reason reality shows are successful.

Dollhouse is a tough sell. Not surprised audiences aren't attracted to it.

You know I always wonder why *anyone* expects shows like this to pick up ratings mid-season. If I had never seen any episode of this show before but heard some hype about it and wanted to check it out and ended up watching this weeks' episode, I would have been completely lost, from both a character development standpoint and a storyline standpoint. Serial dramas like this require the viewer to have seen things from the beginning to be able to make sense of most episodes--especially one like this where it's dedicated to a backstory on a previously secondary character. As much as a fan I am of this show, even *I* would be frustrated to the point of probably not watching it again because it would require too much involvement to get 'caught up'. And not everyone has access to online content or episode DVDs to start from the very beginning. Unless it's *really* hyped by media outlets everywhere, the average TV viewer isn't going to take the time to understand this show. There are too many other 'instant gratification' choices out there. Take 'Castle' (another recent fav of mine), for example. Here's another hour-long comedy-drama but the serial component is very underplayed. Each episode can stand on its own as a single event (they solve a murder each week) even though the underlying storylines march on week to week. Even if you didn't grasp onto or follow *any* of the continuing story lines, you could still enjoy a single episode as a standalone murder-mystery whodunit. And that's exactly what's happened with it. ABC gave it a second chance and its numbers are improving slowly week-to-week--even with a weaker lead-in. And now it's been given a full second season renewal.

I honestly don't think the ratings flop has to do with the stories/content/sci-fi aspect of 'Dollhouse' so much as the necessary time commitment of the viewer to understand it. These types of shows just don't lend themselves to picking up significant viewers mid-season.

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... On the other hand, Matt, sometimes a new viewer will happen onto a serialized show on a night that has a very compelling, yet complicated episode about a secondary character, and although they find it confusing be so intrigued they actually WANT to catch up and start watching every week...

Something similar happened to me when I caught my first episode of "Buffy" when UPN actually DID highly promote its musical episode, which while quite confusing, was not about a minor character, but was also QUITE intriguing.

Then again, I'm the first to admit I'm far from the norm... And then again, again, the "average viewer" is NEVER going to care for science fiction, anyway -- especially when it's full of all sorts of social complications and doesn't even seem to know where it is or is going sometimes... To me, a BIG PART of the reason shows like the "Star Trek" franchise worked as well as they did was not only that they involved space travel -- in which a lot of folks are interested -- but also that they took place in a fictional future, so any sort of social elements of the story could be "politically and socially distanced" from "current reality."

The "Stargate" series, while set in the present, seemed to also work, I think, because almost all of the action took place somewhere else. But everything in "Dollhouse" is "here and now," which, I believe, complicates issues a bit more for more "average Joe" sort of science fiction viewers, making the "willing suspension of disbelief" part more difficult... This is all just a theory... maybe half-baked, but I think that's a PART of what has kept ratings low -- one of many small factors that have led to the show just not pulling numbers, along with its 9 p.m. Friday placement, it's floundering early storylines, and who knows what else? I wish I had access to the complete ratings listing for ALL SHOWS through the week, so I could see how it's comparing against, say, "Stargate: Universe," which runs in the same timeslot for the time being, but also re-runs two hours later -- or earlier -- depending on which part of the country you're in. I watch both, but either DVR or juggle, depending on what else is on. "Medium" is obviously beating it, but then "Medium" has an established fan base withch likely was only reinforced by NBC trying to cancel it and it switching to CBS.

Some of us like shows that challenge us, or at least have challenging or interesting concepts, which this show at least has -- along with rare flashes of brilliance. Other people (the majority, I think) seem to like shows that just spoon-feed their brains and they don't have to think at all -- or if they like a compelling show, it has to have either cops or doctors in it, lol, and the doctors have to be working in a hospital, usually, and the cops have to either be FBI, or working out of a precinct (I watch a few of those shows, too, but I'm selective).

I'm starting to try to think like I don't have any DVRs, though, and my choices are entirely down to what I can either watch live or on second-run (like with Stargate: Universe and Sanctuary), and even I have to admit I'd probably have had a hard time choosing between "Medium" and "Dollhouse" up until this most recent episode. At this point I think I could finally say "Dollhouse," though (those of you who look down your noses at "Medium," however, please don't sneer at me. I happen to think it's a very good show -- I like the rare family aspect, for one thing).
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Yeah...I've always hated the theme song and the opening....

Hate the theme song, the shots of Echo are fine...

Did anyone catch all the graffiti in Echo's sleep chamber lid?

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I caught it, Robert, and actually read most of it. I delete each episode after I'm done with it, however, to make room on my DVR, so I can't go back and give you a blow-by-blow, but she had details about Sierra, her own life, something about "Caroline" on there... all sorts of things that pointed to just HOW MUCH real awareness she has.
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The attic is bad. I like that.
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I'm SO TIRED of "hearing" about "the attic" without ever even seeing what "the attic" is.

I think it's time they show us what "the attic" is.
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If I remember in one of the pre-season interviews Joss said they would be making a trip to the attic. So keep watching and you'll be likely to get your wish.
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According the whedon.info website (http://www.whedon.info/Dollhouse-Tv-...return-on.html), Dollhouse will return in January. Here is a quote:

""Dollhouse," following its double runs on December 4, 11 and 18, will return to its regular time period on Friday, January 8 at 9:00/8:00c."

This was posted yesterday (October 29).

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According the whedon.info website (http://www.whedon.info/Dollhouse-Tv-...return-on.html), Dollhouse will return in January. Here is a quote:

""Dollhouse," following its double runs on December 4, 11 and 18, will return to its regular time period on Friday, January 8 at 9:00/8:00c."

This was posted yesterday (October 29).

I wonder if that means more episodes. Maybe the ratings will go up running against all those reruns in December.
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Burning off episodes two at a time in the month of December pretty much says the show is over and done with once all the "in the can" episodes have finally aired.
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Speaking of "in the can", it'd sure be ironic if they showed those two, un-aired episodes from the first season, and the ratings shot way up for them.
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According the whedon.info website (http://www.whedon.info/Dollhouse-Tv-...return-on.html), Dollhouse will return in January. Here is a quote:

""Dollhouse," following its double runs on December 4, 11 and 18, will return to its regular time period on Friday, January 8 at 9:00/8:00c."

This was posted yesterday (October 29).

So they skip six weeks, then run six episodes in three weeks, then skip three weeks and start up again -- the six episodes in December would, in effect, I guess, burn off what would have run Oct. 30 -- Dec. 4 if they had run straight through up to that point, and then taken a break until Jan. 8 -- which isn't an unheard-of long break for many shows, so I guess it's six of one, a half dozen of another.

How many episodes ran prior to this hiatus -- 4??? Six more would make 10, so if they pick back up Jan. 8, that would leave only three more episodes to go before it's finito, assuming they don't order any more episodes -- so Jan. 22 would be IT... that almost seems bizarre unless they ARE planning to do something more, but I've pretty much given up on second-guessing these networks.
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Speaking of "in the can", it'd sure be ironic if they showed those two, un-aired episodes from the first season, and the ratings shot way up for them.

You're joking right....the show is DOA...nobody outside of a tiny tiny niche of Whedon diehards give a flying flip about this show.

It's run it's course and will soon be forgotten by even the most hardcore "fans".

Face it, the show isn't good and America spoke by not watching it.
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You're joking right....the show is DOA...nobody outside of a tiny tiny niche of Whedon diehards give a flying flip about this show.

It's run it's course and will soon be forgotten by even the most hardcore "fans".

Face it, the show isn't good and America spoke by not watching it.

My guess is the porn industry is already gearing up for its own "version" of the show, lol... Why not? They spoof everything else (they even did a spoof of "Gilligan's Island"). Something named "Dollhouse" with this sort of theme and intro is VERY prime fodder.
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You're joking right....

I said "ironic".

That's a device used in humor.
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My guess is the porn industry is already gearing up for its own "version" of the show...

Then they'd basically be spoofing a spoof, because the show spoofs porn itself in some ways (like the beginning, and ED's carefree playing of the "whore in the bedroom" for most of the clients. )
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What is there to really spoof? Elements of the show are already spoofing porn.

You just answered your own question, Rammi. If it were done right, and not by some cheap hack producer/director, it could be a "porn masterpiece," that spoofed the spoofs, by both making fun of itself AND making fun of the original show at the same time, and how it was almost like an attempt at softcore without the softcore.

I saw an R-rated movie a while back on one of the pay cable channels (I don't even remember the name of it, but it actually had real porn stars in it, most notably, Ron Jeremy, plus a couple other female names from yesteryear and a few lesser stars of today), where this porn crew goes up into the Sierra Nevada mountains to film a porn movie, but gets snowed in their first night there, and then this space alien lands, attacks Ron Jeremy, and causes a certain part of his anatomy to become a detached "lethal weapon," lol. It was pretty funny... made fun of both the porn industry and movies, and B-movies in general, the horror genre and horror movies, and all sorts of stuff, and was still fairly entertaining in its own right.

Something like that could be done with the "Dollhouse" concept anywhere from R to XXX, and if done well, could be really good. As you all already know my tastes are wide, and also include that genre, so I already have a few male and female leads in mind for the major roles, lol.
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You're joking right....the show is DOA...nobody outside of a tiny tiny niche of Whedon diehards give a flying flip about this show.

It's run it's course and will soon be forgotten by even the most hardcore "fans".

Face it, the show isn't good and America spoke by not watching it.

Seems like this show is stuck at a 2.2 million viewers....
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You're joking right....the show is DOA...nobody outside of a tiny tiny niche of Whedon diehards give a flying flip about this show.

It's run it's course and will soon be forgotten by even the most hardcore "fans".

Face it, the show isn't good and America spoke by not watching it.

I agree with your prediction that Dollhouse's viewership will not improve appreciably. Although that bodes ill, the show's loyal hardcore viewers may be enough to save it, at least for awhile. I learned a long time ago that it is a big mistake to make confident pronouncements in advance about whether network suits will or will not cancel a show. Only time can tell that.
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Another thread I'm active in is "Supernatural," and those are about average ratings for it on "The CW," which makes it a fairly solid performer there. I guess it's always possible "Dollhouse" could go there, assuming it's not exclusive to Fox.

As you said, gw, only time can tell, and certainly not those of us who could never prognosticate what those "suits" might do.
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Well Fox makes the show so if they get another buyer (for the right terms) it will benefit them to let it go there if they decide not to show it on Fox.
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