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post #2761 of 3306 Old 02-14-2012, 11:46 PM
 
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Are you sure that's only during 4x3 standard-def commercials that have black side bars? They must have some 16x9 hi-def ones with no side bars- I can't see any advertiser being happy with stuff superimposed over those. I've seen ESPN put stuff in their side bars during commercials too (of course that's a big reason I don't have cable, since there shouldn't BE any commercials on channels I'm paying for!)
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Are you sure that's only during 4x3 standard-def commercials that have black side bars? They must have some 16x9 hi-def ones with no side bars- I can't see any advertiser being happy with stuff superimposed over those. I've seen ESPN put stuff in their side bars during commercials too (of course that's a big reason I don't have cable, since there shouldn't BE any commercials on channels I'm paying for!)

They dropped the 16:9 commercials down to four black bars on all sides instead of airing them natively in HD. The graphics remained present the entire time during all commercial breaks.
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I have one question, though - if the clutter thing disgusts you that much, how can you even watch the broadcast channels over OTA?

The broadcast OTA channels has way less screen clutter than the cable channels which is a head scratcher. They just have the logo and the bottom right corner on the screen and its transparent. When a snipe comes on the screen it tells whats on next and its gone within seconds. Plus thanks to my antenna the programming is free and that puts a lot of salve in the wound.

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Heh heh - yeah.... tell me about it.

I thought that back when reality programming first came out, too.

I thought The Simpsons wasn't going to last when it came out. But here it is 20 years later and its spawned a whole crapload of crappy cartoons.

PS. DVDs in 480p look great on my Plasma HDTV.

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You won't find anyone here that will disagree with you on this. We are all annoyed, upset, and very, unhappy about the clutter on our screens while we are ATTEMPTING to watch the program we tuned in to see for entertainment! I wish there was an effective way of dealing with it OTHER than turning off the television, which deprives me of the entertainment I seek.

Thanks to OTA HD, DVDs, and online streaming I have more stuff than I have time to watch. I've been watching so much stuff on the free OTA channels the last 3 weeks I haven't ran my DVD player.

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Why can't everybody start doing this instead of molesting the shows? I wonder how long til the advertisers make them remove it


Obviously not a "real" network but MSG HD (a RSN in the New York area) does this as well. They advertise their programming in stylized pillarboxes during 4:3 commercials. I'd much rather see it there than over the programming.
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Guys i have a simple solution to your problems, don't watch WE or My little Pony sorry couldn't resist

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Guys i have a simple solution to your problems, don't watch WE or My little Pony sorry couldn't resist

So we can all go watch ESPN instead right?

A big ass bar constantly taking up the entire bottom of the screen is a huge improvement.
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So we can all go watch ESPN instead right?

A big ass bar constantly taking up the entire bottom of the screen is a huge improvement.

with a annoying constant reminder that "SportsCenter/SC now on ESPNEWS/ESPN" on the right-hand side of said big-ass bar. Do they want me to watch the game or watch SportsCenter?
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with a annoying constant reminder that "SportsCenter/SC now on ESPNEWS/ESPN" on the right-hand side of said big-ass bar. Do they want me to watch the game or watch SportsCenter?

Also its interfering with all the worldshaking women's basketball that is on.

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I pretty much exclusively watch women's sports on ESPN on those few times I watch the channel.

Why would I want to spend hours gazing at a bunch of sweaty dudes playing grab ass when I can watch women do it?
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Also its interfering with all the worldshaking women's basketball that is on.

I don't really find much of a thrill in it, either, but at least they haven't needed to raise the basket by two feet for the last, couple or so decades, and it's still played as more of a team game.

They don't cheat and get away with it as much, either. The rules of the game are basically the same as they were 40 years ago, however, in the NBA at least, they're allowed to get away with not adhering to them whenever they feel like it. For instance, I see numerous, blatant incidences of travelling, elbowing and palming the ball while dribbling in the average game now, and they're never penalized, although the rules have never been "officially" changed.

For what's supposed to be a professional, legit sports league, you'd think it was being run by Abe Saperstein.
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One interesting thing I've noticed recently by watching shows with Hulu Desktop, is that there are no bugs at all. Obviously no pop-ups and snipes but also no network logos or Hulu branding either.

It's a completely clutter-free full screen experience.


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One interesting thing I've noticed recently by watching shows with Hulu Desktop, is that there are no bugs at all. Obviously no pop-ups and snipes but also no network logos or Hulu branding either.

It's a completely clutter-free full screen experience.

Somehow when I watch ABC shows on Hulu they insert the bug for my local affiliate (KOAT 7). But its much smaller and not 4:3 safe, and like you said, no snipes or pop-ups.
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Somehow when I watch ABC shows on Hulu they insert the bug for my local affiliate (KOAT 7). But its much smaller and not 4:3 safe, and like you said, no snipes or pop-ups.

I'm not talking about watching at hulu.com, I'm talking about using the Hulu Desktop application.


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the twitter thingy is too much, I just want to log on to twitter and write that take that crap off the screen, it doesn't need to be there the entire show..

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Somehow when I watch ABC shows on Hulu they insert the bug for my local affiliate (KOAT 7). But its much smaller and not 4:3 safe, and like you said, no snipes or pop-ups.

They just detect your location (simple) and have the player overlay the proper bug (also simple). There is no bug in the stream itself.
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I'm not talking about watching at hulu.com, I'm talking about using the Hulu Desktop application.

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They just detect your location (simple) and have the player overlay the proper bug (also simple). There is no bug in the stream itself.

If you watch the shows on ABC.com and news clips on ABCNews.com, they also have your local affiliate's logo. I think ABC News has it on the page and not overlayed on the video.

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If you watch the shows on ABC.com and news clips on ABCNews.com, they also have your local affiliate's logo. I think ABC News has it on the page and not overlayed on the video.

Again, not relevant.

Hulu Desktop does not display any station idents. Try it yourself.


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During some shows TBS has moves their bug to the left side with annoying show promotion spam text on a white background to the right of the TBS logo.
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Not only does NBC spam the screen with promotion text to the right of their logo,
just now in the middle of programming the logo and spam text went away and a animated snipe for a movie appeared at the bottom of the screen.
There is no way any network channel should be allowed to put commercial snipes on the screen during programming.
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Oh really? And why not? We don't pay for their product.

You have it the other way around, bro. CABLE networks shouldn't be allowed to do this crap. They still remain far worse about spam than the networks we get for free.
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Oh really? And why not? We don't pay for their product.

They're using the public airwaves, which means they have a bunch of regulations that apply to them.
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CABLE networks shouldn't be allowed to do this crap.

Cable networks should be allowed to do whatever they please, since they exist solely within private transmission methods.
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Not only does NBC spam the screen with promotion text to the right of their logo,
just now in the middle of programming the logo and spam text went away and a animated snipe for a movie appeared at the bottom of the screen.
There is no way any network channel should be allowed to put commercial snipes on the screen during programming.

Yeah those for Lorax were pretty bad. 2 different ones on Whitney and then Chelsea.

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They're using the public airwaves, which means they have a bunch of regulations that apply to them.

They're not the public's airwaves. They're the government's airwaves.

Do you cry about AT&T getting to use "the public's airwaves" to make a profit and ream customers too?
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They're not the public's airwaves. They're the government's airwaves.

In this country, there is no practical difference.
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Do you cry about AT&T getting to use "the public's airwaves" to make a profit and ream customers too?

I'm not even sure what you're getting at here. I'm not even aware of AT&T using public broadcast spectrum.
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Big red bar across the bottom of "Awake" advertising something. Worked really well because I don't recall what it was advertising.
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In this country, there is no practical difference.

Oh, you are just adorable.

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I'm not even sure what you're getting at here. I'm not even aware of AT&T using public broadcast spectrum.

As we all know, AT&T's cell phone network doesn't operate via wireless spectrum. It operates by pixie dust.
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As we all know, AT&T's cell phone network doesn't operate via wireless spectrum. It operates by pixie dust.

I realize that the details of how the wireless spectrum is divided up in this country doesn't involve cartoons, so you obviously know nothing about it. My mistake. Maybe a My Little Ponies episode will tackle this subject one day, so you can participate in the conversation at an adult level.
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Maybe a My Little Ponies episode will tackle this subject one day, so you can participate in the conversation at an adult level.

Hey don't knock the ponies! They haven't done anything except provide creatives for occasionally amusing YouTube mashups!

Put him on ignore and save a good point being wasted.

Back on topic, it's not the first time NBC have advertised third parties during their programming. I posted a screenshot way back of NBC advertising a Bourne movie during Chuck season one that took up almost half of the screen.


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I realize that the details of how the wireless spectrum is divided up in this country doesn't involve cartoons, so you obviously know nothing about it. My mistake. Maybe a My Little Ponies episode will tackle this subject one day, so you can participate in the conversation at an adult level.

I think I'm starting to understand why you are considered an AVS "Special" Member.
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