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Your best bet would be to ask the people over on www.satelliteguys.us or www.dbstalk.com.
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Thanks. I'll hop over there and see what they say.

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My original post that got eaten:

I ordered the HD Absolute package July 29th with 2 HD receivers and they were supposed to install it yesterday morning. They even called to remind us they would be out between 8 & 12. No one showed, no calls. I called them about 1:30. Got the most useless person on the phone, kept going around in circles and never answered my question.

I called back a couple hours later and got cut off. The third person was able to give me the number of the local installer. They said that the equipment had not arrived but they would send someone out the next morning between 8 & 10. The guy shows up with a VIP222 2-room receiver. I told him I wanted 2 separate receivers. He claimed that the 222 delivered HD to both TVs (it doesn't). He asked if I wanted him to at least install the dish. I said not until they have the right equipment. He called in and then suggested I do the same.

Calling back in to change the equipment I was told they no longer offer the HD Absolute package but I could sign up for one of the new TurboHD packages. I told them I wanted the package I signed up for and if they couldn't do it then let me talk to someone who could or just cancel my order. The next person I spoke with seemed to understand what I wanted but then proceeded to say that if any changes were made I would not be able to keep the HD Absolute package. I said I wasn't making changes, I only wanted them to give me what I ordered! (I was really getting mad by this time). Then she starts to explain that with TurboHD it would be so much faster; I cut her off, telling her that I wasn't interested in marketing, that the equipment was the same and I JUST WANTED WHAT I ORDERED!!!

She insisted that nothing else could be done; I told her to just cancel the order. I was put on hold and just simply hung up at that point. So I really don't know what they are going to do, but I suspect there will be some credit card charges I will need to have reversed!

I really don't understand why a company like Dish can't deliver a simple order like mine.


And an update:

Since I wasn't sure if Dish Network had canceled my order, I called them back today and first asked to reschedule my install. Then I asked what equipment would be installed. They still had the VIP 222 on the order. I said that I had requested 2 separate HD receivers. After awhile she told me she was able to change that but it would incur a $7/mo charge; I reluctantly agreed even though the web site did not show that. Then I asked what she showed my monthly bill would be. It was around $60/mo. I asked what plan I was signed up for and got the run around, but it was clearly one of the newer TurboHD plans. When I pressed her on the plan name she transferred me to an account specialist. When I asked why I couldn't get the Absolute HD package that I signed up for she said it was because the account was not activated! She stated she could not change that. I told her to cancel the account which she said she did.

I have filed a complaint with the FTC on the "Bait & Switch" tactic. But I would like to hear from those who did get the $30/mo deal, especially if you have your first bill. Also, did you get two VIP 211 receivers?

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I ordered the HD Absolute package July 29th with 2 HD receivers and they were supposed to install it yesterday morning. They even called to remind us they would be out between 8 & 12. No one showed, no calls. I called them about 1:30. Got the most useless person on the phone, kept going around in circles and never answered my question.

I called back a couple hours later and got cut off. The third person was able to give me the number of the local installer. They said that the equipment had not arrived but they would send someone out the next morning between 8 & 10. The guy shows up with a VIP222 2-room receiver. I told him I wanted 2 separate receivers. He claimed that the 222 delivered HD to both TVs (it doesn't). He asked if I wanted him to at least install the dish. I said not until they have the right equipment. He called in and then suggested I do the same.

Calling back in to change the equipment I was told they no longer offer the HD Absolute package but I could sign up for one of the new TurboHD packages. I told them I wanted the package I signed up for and if they couldn't do it then let me talk to someone who could or just cancel my order. The next person I spoke with seemed to understand what I wanted but then proceeded to say that if any changes were made I would not be able to keep the HD Absolute package. I said I wasn't making changes, I only wanted them to give me what I ordered! (I was really getting mad by this time). Then she starts to explain that with TurboHD it would be so much faster; I cut her off, telling her that I wasn't interested in marketing, that the equipment was the same and I JUST WANTED WHAT I ORDERED!!!

She insisted that nothing else could be done; I told her to just cancel the order. I was put on hold and just simply hung up at that point. So I really don't know what they are going to do, but I suspect there will be some credit card charges I will need to have reversed!

I really don't understand why a company like Dish can't deliver a simple order like mine.


And an update:

Since I wasn't sure if Dish Network had canceled my order, I called them back today and first asked to reschedule my install. Then I asked what equipment would be installed. They still had the VIP 222 on the order. I said that I had requested 2 separate HD receivers. After awhile she told me she was able to change that but it would incur a $7/mo charge; I reluctantly agreed even though the web site did not show that. Then I asked what she showed my monthly bill would be. It was around $60/mo. I asked what plan I was signed up for and got the run around, but it was clearly one of the newer TurboHD plans. When I pressed her on the plan name she transferred me to an account specialist. When I asked why I couldn't get the Absolute HD package that I signed up for she said it was because the account was not activated! She stated she could not change that. I told her to cancel the account which she said she did.

I have filed a complaint with the FTC on the "Bait & Switch" tactic. But I would like to hear from those who did get the $30/mo deal, especially if you have your first bill. Also, did you get two VIP 211 receivers?

I have the Absolute, but I've had it for 2 months. My August bill was for $29.95 + $6 for the VIP722. I'm very happy with the service, content and price. My installation was very professional and on time with the right equipment.

I think one reason I received excellent service was that I contracted through a local installer, not directly with Dish. He even called after the install to make sure everything was alright. I got the same prices and incentives (free install, free DVR, $120.00 discounts). I would advise anyone to look for a local before contacting Dish directly.
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I have filed a complaint with the FTC on the "Bait & Switch" tactic. But I would like to hear from those who did get the $30/mo deal, especially if you have your first bill. Also, did you get two VIP 211 receivers?

I had a similar experience except Dish bent over backwards for me.

I have HD Absolute + Locals + HBO + Starz + Cinemax. I ordered it on 7/30/08 and I was installed on 8/4/08 and I am getting FSN West(channel 417) and Prime Ticket(channel 411) in both HD and SD.

I got 3 months of free HBO + Starz + Cinemax for $0.01 for a year.

When the installer called to activate my service after doing the installation CS told him I could not activate under HD Absolute because it was not offered anymore and because I placed my order before 8/1/08 I did not qualify for HD-Turbo either. So I told the installer to tell CSR he was going to uninstall everything and cancel my order per my request. Then they transfered the installer to retention department who asked to speak to me.

At first the retention department claimed they had no way to offer me HD Absolute anymore and offered me America Top 100 + $10 credit for 12 months + free HD gold + HD platinum for 3 month. To which I replied no thanks please just cancel my service and take back all your equipment as that would end up costing me almost double what I signed up for and give me 1/2 as many HD channels and I really do not care about SD channels as I hardly ever watch them anyways and even my local cable company was cheaper than you guys for SD programing.

So he put me on hold for a bit and came back told me he had good news his supervisor authorized him to put me on HD absolute pricing package but because they are activating my account after 8/1 any changes I make to my account would remove the HD absolute pricing package as they are not able to force the system to grandfather me into HD absolute package at this point and they are having to manual enter all channel codes into the system. He entered Turbo HD Gold + Platinum + Locals in the programing system then told the billing system I had HD Absolute package. He was going to issue me $10 a month credit for 12 month on top of the $39.99 credit on month 1/10/20 + give me free HBO and Starz for 3 months + Cinemax for a penny for a year for all headaches.

He told me under no circumstances should I make any changes to my account or I will loose my current package as the system every time he goes into my account and tries to save it via the normal CS tool gives him an error that I do not have a valid programing package and to please select a valid package and only options the system was given him to choose from were all the Top XXX America packages. He said I am basically getting HBO and Starz for free because if I signed up under HD Turbo Gold + HD Platinum + Locals it would cost me the same thing as HD Absolute + Locals + HBO + Starz as old HD Absolute is $20 cheaper than the new package and is the same thing but I guess he did not know that new package includes FSN West + Prime Ticket and old package did not. He said if I did not want HBO and Starz to let him know right now because if I wanted to remove it later it was going to be a nightmare and more than likely the next manager would not agree to allow CSR to trick the system like this manager was allowing him to do and more than likely would force me to switch to some Top XXX America Package.

So I guess I got lucky as hell and even if at some point in the future HD Absolute package stops getting new channels I will continue to get all the channels from HD Turbo Gold + HD Platinum Turbo. Only downside I have found form reading forum is that old HD absolute package came with all SD channels for the HD you get vs the package I have comes with no SD channels except my locals, some shopping channels, a few religious channels and FSN and Prime Ticket in SD. I get no SD version of the HD channels nor do I get access to SD PPV.

I am not complaining honestly. I think the deal dish gave me was more than fair honestly. I got my first bill already and bill shows I have HD Absolute too + I got a credit of $39.99 + $30(Dish Referral) + $50(new customer sign up) + $20 ($10x2 shows 10/12 remaining). I was very nice with the guy I spoke too and he in returned was super nice too I think.

I got a Vip 722 and Vip 222 both were free ie no upfront cost. I pay $5.98 DVR fee for Vip722 and $7 lease fee for Vip222.
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Only downside I have found form reading forum is that old HD absolute package came with all SD channels for the HD you get vs the package I have comes with no SD channels except my locals, some shopping channels, a few religious channels and FSN and Prime Ticket in SD. I get no SD version of the HD channels nor do I get access to SD PPV.

Well, then I guess that answers that.
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Update on Multi-Sports package. I just checked with Dish (by e-mail, so it is in writing). I have the grandfathered absolute HD, and I can add the Multi-Sports package for the $5.99 a month with no affect on my contract or price change on the abolute package. This apparently applies to the new Turbo packages also.
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Update on Multi-Sports package. I just checked with Dish (by e-mail, so it is in writing). I have the grandfathered absolute HD, and I can add the Multi-Sports package for the $5.99 a month with no affect on my contract or price change on the abolute package. This apparently applies to the new Turbo packages also.

Try and get it added. The major complaint from people is that old Dish Absolute package was missing FSN sports and Multi-sports package states that is requires America Top 100+ package to get added.
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Try and get it added. The major complaint from people is that old Dish Absolute package was missing FSN sports and Multi-sports package states that is requires America Top 100+ package to get added.

The reason I used e-mail is before when you called in they would tell you that you could add the package to HD only, but when I asked the same question by e-mail they said you could not (that was a couple of months ago). That's why I sent in my request by e-mail this time and it was quite clear that their reply pertained to the absolute HD package only. I was also specific any effect on the contract or absolute price and they specifically listed my new charges which only added the $5.99 to my bill.

Anyway, I asked them to go ahead and add it on, so I'll update this information when it's done to confirm.
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Anyway, I asked them to go ahead and add it on, so I'll update this information when it's done to confirm.

Please do let us know the outcome considering there is a big thread on satelliteguys forum on this very subject. And people have threaten to cancel there service with E* over the fact HD Absolute package is not eligible for any RSN at all. People have asked to be switched to Turbo Gold + Platinum package which is $20 more to get RSN and they were told No. And some guy actually canceled service with E* and signed up under his wife name to be able to get RSN via HD Turbo packages.

So you would think if CSR could add the multi-sport package they would over having people cancel there service.

Btw only reason I am getting RSN is because I order new E* service on 7/30 for HD Absolute and my install date was 8/4. Retention was unable to even give me the HD absolute package. So they manually put my account on HD Turbo gold + platinum and manually put me on Dish HD absolute in the billing system. The CSR warned me over and over that if I make any changes to my account I will loose the HD only package as I am not grandfathered in the system and every time he tried to save my account via normal CSR tool it would say I do not have a valid package.
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The reason I used e-mail is before when you called in they would tell you that you could add the package to HD only, but when I asked the same question by e-mail they said you could not (that was a couple of months ago). That's why I sent in my request by e-mail this time and it was quite clear that their reply pertained to the absolute HD package only. I was also specific any effect on the contract or absolute price and they specifically listed my new charges which only added the $5.99 to my bill.

Anyway, I asked them to go ahead and add it on, so I'll update this information when it's done to confirm.

I guess you got shot down as you never bother to come back and brag about the fact you got it and I assume a phone call does not take over 24 hours nor does it take over 24 hours to get the channels added to your guide after you order the feature.
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Any news on some new HD channels coming along, I'd like to see Nick HD soon...anyone have any idea?
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Any news on some new HD channels coming along, I'd like to see Nick HD soon...anyone have any idea?

I'll second the Nick HD. I hope they add that one soon.
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Any news on some new HD channels coming along, I'd like to see Nick HD soon...anyone have any idea?

Same here, I cant get Turbo HD unless I have Disney and Nick for the kids.

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Same here, I cant get Turbo HD unless I have Disney and Nick for the kids.

Sucks doesnt it....thats the only thing we watch in SD....It will save me nearly $30 a month.
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Sucks doesnt it....thats the only thing we watch in SD....It will save me nearly $30 a month.

Yes it does. My wife wont let me get it just because of one channel.
All the other channels we watch are on the Bronze package.

If you are single DONT get married j/k

Does anyone know if the Disney channel for the bronze package includes both east and west. I live in CA, maybe just west???

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... or don't listen, then you will be single, then go for it! Mine didn't want me to switch to Dish because of rain fade and no Soap on Absolute. Told her it wasn't going to rain, so she didn't need any soap... Now that we have Dish, and we've lost signal 3 times and she has no soap... she now has more clothes.
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I guess you got shot down as you never bother to come back and brag about the fact you got it and I assume a phone call does not take over 24 hours nor does it take over 24 hours to get the channels added to your guide after you order the feature.

To begin with, I don't brag. I was gone and not able to get back to post the results. I did not get the multi-sports package. They did apologize as they tried to add it but couldn't (one of dish network's main problems - lack of internal communication). I was referred me to someone else that explained that it was a technical problem at this point and they are working to get it set up so the multi-sports package can be added (part of it is contractual agreements with the providers). They also explained that anyone grandfathered in would be able to add the package without affecting their orginal contract and the price would just be the additional $5.99. They did not give a time frame, just that it would be done as soon as possible. I will be checking with them occasionally until it is done.
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To begin with, I don't brag. I was gone and not able to get back to post the results. I did not get the multi-sports package. They did apologize as they tried to add it but couldn't (one of dish network's main problems - lack of internal communication). I was referred me to someone else that explained that it was a technical problem at this point and they are working to get it set up so the multi-sports package can be added (part of it is contractual agreements with the providers). They also explained that anyone grandfathered in would be able to add the package without affecting their orginal contract and the price would just be the additional $5.99. They did not give a time frame, just that it would be done as soon as possible. I will be checking with them occasionally until it is done.

Well keep us informed on that because if you read the above posts I was faxed a letter from CEO CSR team contradicting everything you said pretty much. I would trust those CSR any day over someone in Philippines or India. As that would make Dish plan of adding all new HD channels to HD Absolute till Jan and then in Feb offering the option to HD Absolute customers to either stay on there grandfather plans and continue to pay $29.99 but get no new HD channels added to there package or migrated over to an HD Turbo package by fair there dumbest plan ever. As no one is going to migrate from Dish Absolute to HD Turbo in Feb if there is no differences in the packages except $20 in cost. Sports is main reason people want HD Turbo packages over HD Absolute package and if E* removes that difference then no one is going to migrate over to HD Turbo anytime soon. I am sure E* will have lots of people sticking to HD Absolute package till they add channels to HD Turbo which are not on HD Absolute package which makes enough people want to migrate over to newer packages comes Feb 1. I think this part of the reason we are not going to see too many must have HD channels added before Feb 1 either as adding those channels before then would just prolong people sticking with HD Absolute longer.

I have a felling after Feb 1 we are going to see E* add a ton of must have HD channels like all Fox channels in HD, Nick, MTV, G4 in HD etc in an effort to get people on old HD Absolute package to migrate over to HD Turbo packages which in turn will bring in more revenue for E*.

Sat business is the same as cellphone business it all boils down to ARPU(Average revenue per user) but I guess I could be completely wrong and E* is by far the worst run company around which could explain how they managed to loose customers while D* keeps adding them.
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Absolute sub here. I won't be happy if Dish starts adding HD content to Turbo and not to Absolute. I signed a 2 year "contract" for Absolute, which is "supposed to" include all HD channels they offer (other than sports). Yeah Absoulte is a great deal at $20 less, but I'd still consider it fraudulent advertizing should they "force" Turbo packages on existing accounts in February. Anyway, for Dish to hit their 150 by the end of the year number, they're going to have to start adding HD well before February.
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Absolute sub here. I won't be happy if Dish starts adding HD content to Turbo and not to Absolute. I signed a 2 year "contract" for Absolute, which is "supposed to" include all HD channels they offer (other than sports). Yeah Absoulte is a great deal at $20 less, but I'd still consider it fraudulent advertizing should they "force" Turbo packages on existing accounts in February. Anyway, for Dish to hit their 150 by the end of the year number, they're going to have to start adding HD well before February.

HD Absolute from day 1 always advertised "You will get all new HD channels added through the end of 2008". CEO CSR made it very clear and it states it clearly in the fax I got. That I will get all new HD Channels added till Jan. After Feb 1st I will have option to switch to HD Turbo or I can remain on HD Absolute as long as I want but HD Absolute will no longer get any new HD channels added. The only way to get any of the channels added after Feb 1 will be to switch over to HD Turbo package.

I said they will not add "Must Have Channels" till Jan/Feb is my opinion. They could do the same D* recently when they announced they were adding over 30 new HD channels to become HD leader again and overtake E* after they launched 18 new HD channels. They ended up adding 2 free national HD + 2 premium HD movie channels + 9 HD RSN + 18 HD PPV. And D* counted that as "over 30 new HD channels". E* is up to 134 HD channels according to there funny way of counting channels. So they could reach there target of 150 HD channels simply by adding HD RSN as they are missing over 20 HD RSN that D* carries currently + they could add some more HD PPV or HD VOD too.

P.S. I am an Absolute sub too. I know what I was ordering when I ordered it as even on Dish own page it stated you will get all new HD channels added in 2008. I questioned that wording before I ordered and asked the sale department what they meant they told me from day 1 that come 2009 there would be no guarantee that I would get any new channels if the package was not longer offered.. I figured I would save $20 per month for at least 6 months. Then I would switch to HD Turbo once channels I really wanted were added to HD Turbo package. So if nothing worthwhile get added for another 3-6 months I would end up saving $20 per month for almost 1 year.
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Have there been any new HD channels added since August 1st??

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Have there been any new HD channels added since August 1st??

Well if you count all the HD VOD channels and HD Olympic Channels Yes but besides that no.
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Anyone else getting the feeling that if a movie is worth watching we'll have to pay extra for it?

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post #925 of 2581 Old 08-23-2008, 01:04 PM
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Anyone else getting the feeling that if a movie is worth watching we'll have to pay extra for it?

I have a felling E* will add some channels between now and Jan 1st. Just do not think they will be "Must Have Channels" which would prolong people staying on HD Absolute packages longer.

For Example I could see E* adding all the missing Showtimes in HD there is 6 channels alone, They could add the 3 missing HBO HD Channels, 2 missing Cinemax, 3 missing Starz. As those are pay channels that people are paying for extra.

I do not see them adding the Encore channels in HD and TMC in HD before Feb 1st as those channels are included in AT250 package for free which means HD Absolute customers would get them too for free.

I doubt they would all the new HD channels like Comedy Central, MTV, FX, BBC America, E!, G4, BET, CMT, ESPNU, Fuse, FBN, FN, IFC, QVC, Spike, Speed, VH1, WE, Wealth HD, MSNBC, ETC.

I think they might add a couple of those channels and only enough to keep AT and Turbo Customers happy but more than likely they will not add anything they think they can delay till after Jan 1st when the HD Absolute offers of "you will get all new channels added till end of the 2008" expires. So unless we see D* add tons of nationally available channels which forces E* to prematurely add channels to compete with D*. I would not expect to see E* aggressively add channels that would be included in current HD Absolute package.

My personal gut felling is that unless D* and Cable puts tons of pressure on E* to add more channels earlier we will see E* add tons of HD channels in Jan and Feb in an effort to try and get HD Absolutes customers to migrated to HD Turbo packages thus increasing E* revenue from those customers.

Again this is just my felling and personal view I have no inside information what so ever but from a business point of view this makes 100% sense.
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My current 'dream additions' would be the following
Comedy Central-HD
F/X-HD
G4-HD
Speed Network-HD
Spike-HD
If E* would add the above, Iā€™m sure they would be the ā€˜09/2008ā€™ leader ha
I like all the recent HD-Channels by Dishnetwork.
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My current 'dream additions' would be the following
Comedy Central-HD
F/X-HD
G-4-HD
Speed Network-HD
Spike-HD
If E* would add the above, I'm sure they would be the 09/2008' leader ha
I like all the recent HD-Channels by Dishnetwork.

I agree, I hope Dolmar is right. I already ordered the TurboHD Silver package which is being installed tomorrow, but if they add those channels you and Dolmar mentioned, I would be set and happy for a long time.
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I agree, I hope Dolmar is right. I already ordered the TurboHD Silver package which is being installed tomorrow, but if they add those channels you and Dolmar mentioned, I would be set and happy for a long time.


I do not see them adding all those channels before Jan 2009 because like I said all of the people on HD Absolute package will get "All new HD Channels added to Dish till end of 2008" except RSN and I think come Feb 1st E* is hoping many of the HD Absolute people migrate over to Turbo HD packages as HD Absolute package is basically Turbo Gold + Platinum package minus RSN for $29.99 which E* clearly thinks is too cheap considering there new Turbo HD pricing. Come Feb 1st college football season is over so will be college basketball so getting the RSN is not enough of compelling reason to switch from HD Absolute to HD Turbo till Aug/Sept of 09. So only compelling reason for HD Absolute subs to switch over to HD Turbo package would be if E* added tons of HD channels after Jan 1st which HD Absolute people were not getting and that would appeal to most customers. Which is why I think any "Must Have Channel" which has mass appeal to most customers like Comedy Channel, MSNBC, FX, MTV, BBC America, Spike TV, etc might get delayed in being added till early Jan if at all possible and considering Comedy Channel, MSNBC and BBC America are not expected to launch HD channels till some time in the 4th quarter it is very conceivable what I am saying. As from a business point of view it makes 100% sense for E* to do it as long as them delaying carriage of those channels would not cause mass amount of customers to switch carriers or stop new customers from signing up. Which is why I think E* might be more inclined to add those channels if both D* and cables companies picked up all those channels at launch thus pressuring E* to carry them asap. I do not see E* being or trying to be HD leader and pressuring D* and cables companies to add more HD channels like they did between Jan 08 and now as E* has been in an HD race with D* and clearly wining in all HD content except for sports and number of HD PPV channels.


Again this is just my personal view and I have no inside information at all.
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I just switched from Cablevision to E* and have noticed that HD PQ on Cable was better (very noticeable when viewing HD material with a JVC-RS1 projector on a 90" screen).

Is E* only planning to add more HD channels or will they also enlarge the bandwidth and improve the PQ quality?
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You're going to have to go into more detail for anyone to have a clue as to what you're talking about. What aspects of HD?? Are you sure you're on a HD channel?

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