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post #511 of 520 Old 08-19-2014, 10:30 AM
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That's why we have cable cards per FCC mandate. No need for a cable box.
But cable cards aren't free. :P
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But cable cards aren't free. :P
But after the "free" year or two of a cable box (if you are fortunate enough to get into that category of customers), cable cards are cheaper. And they are definitely cheaper than paying for a cable box with a built-in DVR. (Yes, I am paying rental on a HD DVR, so I do have experience paying. )
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That's why we have cable cards per FCC mandate. No need for a cable box.
The FCC mandate for cablecards has been lifted, as far as I understand.
Software-based encryption methods are now permitted and in beta-test, from what I've read.

Get those old-school cablecards while they are still available, people!
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The FCC mandate for cablecards has been lifted, as far as I understand.
Software-based encryption methods are now permitted and in beta-test, from what I've read.

Get those old-school cablecards while they are still available, people!
Can you tell me what is bad about the software based?
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Can you tell me what is bad about the software based?
As a general rule, and not absolute, software (and firmware) for U.S. products is written from specs (overseas) and given to the consumer with little or no testing. If the device doesn't have an internet interface, an update may be beyond the ability of the average consumer. I don't consider software based encryption bad, especially on small volume products. Sending out thousands of TV sets to decrypt HBO scares me.
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As a general rule, and not absolute, software (and firmware) for U.S. products is written from specs (overseas) and given to the consumer with little or no testing. If the device doesn't have an internet interface, an update may be beyond the ability of the average consumer. I don't consider software based encryption bad, especially on small volume products. Sending out thousands of TV sets to decrypt HBO scares me.
Ahh. Yeah, I had those problems with computer stuff like from Europe that doesn't test ATSC. However, they did give me support and free updates for testing. Too bad we can't do that with cable companies as subscribers. :P
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The FCC mandate for cablecards has been lifted, as far as I understand.
Software-based encryption methods are now permitted and in beta-test, from what I've read.

Get those old-school cablecards while they are still available, people!
Lifted only for cable company's own boxes. TiVo and others are still safe ... for now. It should be many more years before cable card support is dropped. There are tens of millions of boxes with cable card out there.

I'll keep saving my $50/month with cable card as long as I can.
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There are tens of millions of boxes with cable card out there.
When they get around to replacing those tens of millions of boxes there will be a surplus of tens of millions of used cards.
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When they get around to replacing those tens of millions of boxes there will be a surplus of tens of millions of used cards.
And useless when people can't use them.
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The FCC mandate for cablecards has been lifted, as far as I understand.
Software-based encryption methods are now permitted and in beta-test, from what I've read.

Get those old-school cablecards while they are still available, people!
CableCARDs are still alive and will be for a while. What has been lifted is integration ban, whereby company provided boxes are no longer required to rely on CableCARDS.

Support for CableCARDs in third party devices is still in force.

6 TV's in the house on FiOS and we only pay $4.99/month to connect them all!!! Power to the CableCard and WMC7!!!
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