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Ok, getting closer to reality as we are pull wires etc...

Set-Up:
Downstairs:In-ceiling - 4 pairs, 2 dvc/single speakers (Polk, Yamaha, Jamo, or Proficient)
Upstairs: In-ceiling - 7 pairs, 3 dvc/single speakers (Polk, Yamaha, Jamo or Proficient)
- Just thinking of 2 zones for now

Additionally, to keep the costs low, I plan on using the 2 additional audio zones on my Denon 3312CI

Questions -
1. Driving speakers: Am I right in assuming that I would need an amp + speaker selector to drive these speakers? - Appreciate recommendations on amp+ spk selector
2. Music Source: Am i right in assuming that i could use my Denon receiver as a source to these 2 zones? So, playing Pandora in 1 zone and 'source music from pc' in the other?
3. Wall controller: Any suggestions on a keypad/controllers - Worse, to keep cost low, I am ok with the buttons as long as i can see what song is playing. Just need 2, for now

I am hoping, in the future, i would be able to expand from this set-up (add zones/controllers) as needed?

Note: I did review a bunch of sites like Aton, HTD etc. It gets a little overwhleming as you get sucked into buying packages etc. The Home technology Store does seem to have a bunch of packages, but I am not sure if i am better off buying this individually.

Much thanks!!
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Why are you using so many DVC speakers? Really don't recommend using them except for very tight areas like hallways. You'll get much better coverage and sound quality from a pair of stereo speakers... Also, if you're pulling wire, make sure you pull a cat5e to a wallplate in parallel to the speaker wires, so you can upgrade to any of the whole house audio systems later.

If you're hooking up more than one or two pairs to an amplifier, you'll need an impedance-matching device somewhere in the chain. Many speaker selectors (like the Aton) have that function included.

Check the manual or the Denon-specific threads on the output capabilities. You'll certainly have to provide analog audio inputs to the Denon for them to be available in the zone2/zone3 outputs. Very few AVRs provide digital audio sources to the zone outputs. For internal sources like Pandora, DLNA streaming, etc. - double check the manual or real world users to ensure those are available to the zones.

If you want keypads / wall-mounted controllers, you're looking for a "real" WHA system. Getting one with metadata is great - but you have to use sources supported by the system to get that - and it won't be "low cost"...

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Why are you using so many DVC speakers? Really don't recommend using them except for very tight areas like hallways. You'll get much better coverage and sound quality from a pair of stereo speakers... Also, if you're pulling wire, make sure you pull a cat5e to a wallplate in parallel to the speaker wires, so you can upgrade to any of the whole house audio systems later.
If you're hooking up more than one or two pairs to an amplifier, you'll need an impedance-matching device somewhere in the chain. Many speaker selectors (like the Aton) have that function included.
Check the manual or the Denon-specific threads on the output capabilities. You'll certainly have to provide analog audio inputs to the Denon for them to be available in the zone2/zone3 outputs. Very few AVRs provide digital audio sources to the zone outputs. For internal sources like Pandora, DLNA streaming, etc. - double check the manual or real world users to ensure those are available to the zones.
If you want keypads / wall-mounted controllers, you're looking for a "real" WHA system. Getting one with metadata is great - but you have to use sources supported by the system to get that - and it won't be "low cost"...
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Thx Jautor! As always, you are the first to respond. Much appreciated!

The DVC speakers are for the baths and hallway.

The more I review, the HTD Lync system seems to be the best bet? The key pads are just $119 and it also has a neat amp from what i can tell.

Any other systems I should be looking at?
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The more I review, the HTD Lync system seems to be the best bet? The key pads are just $119 and it also has a neat amp from what i can tell.
Any other systems I should be looking at?

Just be aware that the metadata support on the keypads is limited to the, well, limited internal MP3 player. But HTD is an excellent value for the system... To get better metadata, you have to move up to a NuVo or Russound setup - coupled with their media server/streamer products.

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Just be aware that the metadata support on the keypads is limited to the, well, limited internal MP3 player. But HTD is an excellent value for the system... To get better metadata, you have to move up to a NuVo or Russound setup - coupled with their media server/streamer products.
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Thx again Jautor. I do like the Russound Keypads and same for Nuvo.
BTW, what does any equivalent Russound system cost? (equivalent to HTD Lync 6 zone system - $1,999)
There are innumerous Russound systems listed on their site and I am not sure which one is 'decent'.

I understand that a local dealer may be best for cost, but can you tell me a rough estimate?

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Assuming you're talking system + streamer/server, Russound is likely in the same ballpark as a NuVo system, so assuming you're DIY-ing this, probably ~$4-6k for the equipment not counting speakers. (and see, the HTD systems are a good value! smile.gif )

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Assuming you're talking system + streamer/server, Russound is likely in the same ballpark as a NuVo system, so assuming you're DIY-ing this, probably ~$4-6k for the equipment not counting speakers. (and see, the HTD systems are a good value! smile.gif )

Thx Jautor. That pretty much narrows it down for me. I'd love those keypads and system etc, but HTD Lync seems more economical for now.

Thanks again! You've been super helpful! I have read a lot fo threads with your name on it. Great to have folks like you help us fledgling.
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Thx Jautor. That pretty much narrows it down for me. I'd love those keypads and system etc, but HTD Lync seems more economical for now.
Thanks again! You've been super helpful! I have read a lot fo threads with your name on it. Great to have folks like you help us fledgling.

BTW, is this a good deal? http://www.amazon.com/Russound-MCA-C5-Kit-RUSSOUND-kit/dp/B0028H1FL6/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1341595520&sr=1-3

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Seems like that's the going rate for the same package from eBay sellers... I'd certainly recommend contacting a local dealer for Russound or NuVo before buying from an "unauthorized" source (meaning you'd have potential warranty issues with the mfgr). I bought my NuVo from an authorized dealer at a DIY price, very competitive with what they go for on eBay. That's assuming you're doing the work yourself, of course!


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