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Hi,

i'm new to all this stuff but i learn quickly. Last week i was introduced to DLNA and i was like : that's exactly what i want !!!

now here the rule i dont want to break :

#1 i want to be able to use my smartphone to control the receiver
#2 i want to be able to play music in 3 different zone.

only 2 rules, should be that bad smile.gif

ok here's my set-up :

Zone 1 : 5 in-ceiling speaker + 1 subwoffer in my main floor that can play the TV sound and stream my music.
Zone 2 : 1 speaker in my bathroom, i only want music.
Zone 3 : 2 outdoor speakers that play music.

so that make 8 speakers and 1 subwoffer.



i was looking at the Denon 2313CI, not even sure if i can use it with the set-up that i want.
also the Onkyo TX-NR626 that have a zone2 thing that im not even sure if this will work great.

as you can see my budget is around 600$ CAD.

Please AVS community, help me get a good receiver that will do my 3 zone job !!!!

PS: i went to 2 local retailler and 1 didint knew about DLNA, and the second 1 didnt knew about multi-zone.... so i really need you.
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Look at the Pioneer VSX-1123

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1123-K
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Look at the Pioneer VSX-1123

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1123-K

Thanks for the reply, this is on my top list for sure... great receiver !!!

EDIT: after reading the whole night about receiver, i understand a bit more but i got another question, does having a 9.1 receiver mean that i can do 3 zones ( 5.1 + 2 + 2) without any other amp and still be able to choose source for every rooms ??
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Thanks for the reply, this is on my top list for sure... great receiver !!!

EDIT: after reading the whole night about receiver, i understand a bit more but i got another question, does having a 9.1 receiver mean that i can do 3 zones ( 5.1 + 2 + 2) without any other amp and still be able to choose source for every rooms ??

I think the Onkyo TX-NR1010 is 7.1 but does a powered zone 2 & 3. You are right that in most cases a 9.1 is needed.
Not sure what else is available.
Cheaper option would be a middle range 7.1 receiver with a zone 3 pre out and use an external amp.
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I think the Onkyo TX-NR1010 is 7.1 but does a powered zone 2 & 3. You are right that in most cases a 9.1 is needed.
Not sure what else is available.
Cheaper option would be a middle range 7.1 receiver with a zone 3 pre out and use an external amp.

lol. The $1799 retail might bust the op's $600 budget.
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Thanks for the reply, this is on my top list for sure... great receiver !!!

EDIT: after reading the whole night about receiver, i understand a bit more but i got another question, does having a 9.1 receiver mean that i can do 3 zones ( 5.1 + 2 + 2) without any other amp and still be able to choose source for every rooms ??

No, most units are meant for 7.1 for the main listening area and 2 channel for zone 2.

But you can combine the bathroom and patio as zone 2. Do they have volume controls in each of these rooms?
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lol. The $1799 retail might bust the op's $600 budget.

Whats you suggestion then???
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As far as I know youre not going to find an avr that will power 3 zones for $600. Youre gonna have to spend more money. Whether its for a higher end receiver or an avr and an amp.
Unless you want to look at used stuff on ebay and so forth.

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As ifor asked, do you have volume controls for the bathroom and outdoors? If you have them, or can install them, you only need a 2 zone AVR.

How would you control the volume otherwise?

Used AVRs from craigslist ($75) can be used for volume control, of individual zones.

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here something that might change from 3 zone to 2 zone.
the bathroom speaker can be linked to the deck speaker but i would like to be able to mute deck speakers from my smartphone and i'm willing to put a volume controler in my bathroom. I don't want to wake up, go downstairs, turn off the deck speaker, go upstair and then use my bathroom speaker.

again i really appreciate your reply, im new to this world and im so confused !!!

for better purpose, here my speakers, 5 in main room and 1 in bathroom : http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083703&p_id=6816&seq=1&format=2

and here my subwoofer : http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083705&p_id=4928&seq=1&format=2

i didint purchased the deck speakers yet.
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You are not going to do what you want in you budget. You would be looking at a small multi-zone system with Android or iOS control like Control4, RTI, Crestron, etc. ONly these will give you the ability to have a full 3 zone system.

You can do what you want with a Aton remote controlled speaker selector to control your bathroom and patio speakers. You will need to have them powered by the zone 2 out from the receiver.
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The best way is to place volume controls, wired with cat5e and speaker wire, to each zone you want speakers in. ie, the bathroom and patio.

That way you can place vc's or multi-zone controllers in those locations.
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ok thanks.

if i raise my budget and go with previous model, i will able to do what i want ??

like this : http://www.pioneerelectronics.ca/POCEN/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite-Receivers/SC-55
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I would look at the new SC-65 if you are looking for the most complete iPhone control over the receiver.

But yes, the SC-55 can power a 3rd zone with 5.0 in the main area.
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