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post #451 of 7116 Old 08-01-2008, 03:31 PM
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Dream on my friend from the north. Before we'll pay the equivalent of US$500 in Euro, hell will freeze over. $500 would be 320 EUR. And you want a guess from my side ? Double that. $1,000 to go... The german official pricing for the 50pro w/ HD-SDI card is something in the US$7,500 range.

Absolutely not (I hope), it was - and still is - my clear understanding that the price are firm. The only thing which could differ is shipping.

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The current Beta agreement states $500 with shipping paid for by the Beta tester. I'm not sure if different prices are being hammered out with international distributors, or whether the shipping (and tax) costs are being agreed.

Excatly - but let´s not get all ahead off ourselves at this early stage, let´s wait and see what we hear from Fracois.
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Absolutely not (I hope), it was - and still is - my clear understanding that the price are firm. The only thing which could differ is shipping.



Excatly - but let´s not get all ahead off ourselves at this early stage, let´s wait and see what we hear from Fracois.

Agreed to or not, import duties are paid for by the end user - whether they are included with the unit as a single fee or billed separately. It has to be paid for somehow and is not DVDO's responsibility I would have thought. They may be trying to get these beta units imported as engineering samples in which case most countries could be letting them in duty/tax free. They would need to be invoiced at zero dollars for this to apply.

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It seems some process is necessary unless a way is found to change history re: the evolution of frame rates in film vs. TV. It does not change the fact that most motion judder is inherent in the 24fps film camera.

Yes, but the whole discussion here is based on the fact that additional interpolated frames are added. So 24fps essentially/effectively becomes true 48fps if you create an additional interpolated frame between each of the 24 frames. You then get the smoothness of video at 50fps if you do what PAL countries do by slightly speeding up the 24fps to 25fps. For you guys in NTSC land, it's like looking at 60Hz video.

When this "doubling of the frame rate" occurs, it's like looking at our video sources at 50fps - really smooth. Of course, you can use the same principle to add frames at 50fps material.

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Just to Clarify a few things:


The pro will not output a 1366X768 resolution. But will output a 720p resolution to a 1366X768 capable display?> as with the vp50pro?

Does the Edge have: Saturation / Contrast controls> as the Vp-50pro?

Does the Edge have any color managment features: Gamma settings?

Are the algorithms for 1080p de-interlacing and scaling be improved for better 1080p output?
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has anyone else not received a tracking number yet?

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Agreed to or not, import duties are paid for by the end user - whether they are included with the unit as a single fee or billed separately. It has to be paid for somehow and is not DVDO's responsibility I would have thought. They may be trying to get these beta units imported as engineering samples in which case most countries could be letting them in duty/tax free. They would need to be invoiced at zero dollars for this to apply.

Agree - surely there must be a work-around this. At the end of the day, the main focus must be achiving a win-win situation for DVDO and beta-testers, and ultimately the end consumer.

DVDO is getting very valuable feedback, and cleaned up the intial errors etc. The beta-tester puts in a lot of time and effort, and gets (hopefully) rewarded with a attractive price for the beta-EDGE. The end consumer gets a fully tested, competitive priced and easy to use scaler for the ones on a budget.

Anyway that would certainly be the scenario in a perfect world - let´s hope that´s the way it all turns out.
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The pro will not output a 1366X768 resolution. But will output a 720p resolution to a 1366X768 capable display?> as with the vp50pro?

yes

Does the Edge have: Saturation / Contrast controls> as the Vp-50pro?

yes

Does the Edge have any color managment features: Gamma settings?

yes, but as far as I know, not gamma

Are the algorithms for 1080p de-interlacing and scaling be improved for better 1080p output?

dunno

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So to sum up the last 10 days of lost posts... The EDGE will pass HD audio and we in PAL land would quite like automated output frequencies...

is that about it?
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Crap ... what happened? Did all posts (in all threads) from the last 10 days get lost?
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Crap ... what happened? Did all posts (in all threads) from the last 10 days get lost?

Are they recoverable?
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Crap ... what happened? Did all posts (in all threads) from the last 10 days get lost?

Yes, the forum had a catastrophic failure of their database and back up storage, and had to recover from around 6PM August 2th.

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Are they recoverable?

They are history. Although I know the 1000+ threads I'm subcribed to should have many of the posts emailed to me.

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Yes, the forum had a catastrophic failure of their database and back up storage, and had to recover from around 6PM August 2th.

Sanjay

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still waiting for the beta testers
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hey guys! I received an email from Jason C. Turk (jason@avscience.com) requesting my credit card number, expiry date and even the CCV number. Just wondering if it's "real" to represent DVDO.......

coz nobody would request such a complete credit card information over the internet......is it being hacked?
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hey guys! I received an email from Jason C. Turk (jason@avscience.com) requesting my credit card number, expiry date and even the CCV number. Just wondering if it's "real" to represent DVDO.......

coz nobody would request such a complete credit card information over the internet......is it being hacked?

well, you could always pick up the phone and call jason...

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still waiting for the beta testers

What are you waiting for? Beta testers have signed an NDA and will not be posting anything
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well, you could always pick up the phone and call jason...

And it's a credit card, and if you are in the US, federal law limits your liability on CREDIT cards to $50 for unauthorized uses. That's why banks have such an itchy trigger finger on locking your account if they see anything suspicious: they don't want to be on the hook for thousands in unauthorized purchases.

I for one can't wait for Jason's e-mail so I can pay and actually be a BETA tester ASAP!
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well, you could always pick up the phone and call jason...

I tried today morning, left a message, still waiting for callback...
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I'll be receiving my beta box next week and am looking forward to hooking it up to my brand spankin' new TH-50PH11UK

PH still stands for 720p?
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PAY to be a beta tester??? Seriously???

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PAY to be a beta tester??? Seriously???

It's working for DVDO to get a reduced price on the product. When the beta testing is over, I do not think the agreement says you have to return it. It's yours, and I believe it will be supported.

SO with retail at $799, and beta price at $500, that's a $300 discount in exchange for some work that I cannot wait to start that I will not be discussing here pursuant to the NDA.
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PAY to be a beta tester??? Seriously???

Only if you are chosen.
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PAY to be a beta tester??? Seriously???

I have luckily been chosen to be a beta tester! My problem free Samsung BDP1400 that I paid $229 for will hopefully have video performance rivaling the $1999 Denon 3800BDCI. Not to mention the improvement coming from my Fios box to my Sony 60XBR2 which is 1080P/60. The Sony is a great TV but the Edge should improve on every weakness of the set( except for no Kuro black levels of course). My set has been calibrated by UMR so I really don't need all of the $3499 Vp50pro features, I just need the ones I will be getting for $500 in the Edge.
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well, you could always pick up the phone and call jason...

I'm not located in the states. Passing COMPLETE credit card information via email is not advisable. I would prefer paypal or bank TT. Calling Jason doesn't give me any sign about authenticating him.

Nevertheless, I will try my best to give him a call soon.

do you have the right telephone number to contact him?
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Since we lost about a week worth of messages I'll repeat my request to Josh:
Josh, could you please have a look at my beta application. I have not received any reply yet. My forum name is on the application.
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So to sum up the last 10 days of lost posts... The EDGE will pass HD audio and we in PAL land would quite like automated output frequencies...

is that about it?

This seems to be the most important thing !

The bad news comes from this post from Josh :

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Output Formats on EDGE combine both resolution and framerate. For example: 1080p-60 is 1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz progressive. If you would like to change the Output Format between 1080p-60 and 1080p-24, you can do this by navigating the OSD or via discrete IR codes. Once a selection is made all input signals will be converted to the chosen Output Format.

I think its a design error of the product. It makes it not as plug and play as expected.

Many people in europe are watching DVD (output format need to be 1080p50 because of the 576i50 encoding) and HD (output format need to be 1080p24 or 1080p60). Do we need to take the edge remote and to navigate thru OSD each time we change between DVD and Blu-Ray ?

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See my sticky on the top of the forum about beta testers!!

Any questons, let me know.

Hi Jason, I just sent you an email. Do you guys take paypal as payment method?
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What are you waiting for? Beta testers have signed an NDA and will not be posting anything

not postings but for it to be over. How long will it take to test this unit?
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