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If anyone is desperately trying to get some help/support from DVDO, then use the following address:

ken [at] anchorbaytech [dot] com

That will get you through to Ken Nguyen, head of National Sales & Support.
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joerod, you know the edge auto switches to PC levels for any non-TV resolution input, right?
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That doesn't help with football which is either 720p or 1080i though... It only does Video unless I am missing something...

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That doesn't help with football which is either 720p or 1080i though... It only does Video unless I am missing something...

Yes, you are correct. Why do you want PC levels for these signals? Are you using a FLEA?
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Yes, you are correct. Why do you want PC levels for these signals? Are you using a FLEA?

Because he wants it to look "punchier".
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Hell yeah! I love the extra "pop" I get when doing PC (only for sports though) under RGB. Remember, I am an eye candy extremist!

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I'm pretty sure mine came in a brown cardboardbox inside an outer box I've thrown away. Don't think the outer one was a graphic one like yours. I think I would have saved it if it was.

As for FW while it changed to 1.0 at some time I'm sure it was 0.something from the beginning

Yes brown box, no pretty packaging but it has the standard DVDO packaging like I've had with all their scalers I've owned.

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Yes, you are correct. Why do you want PC levels for these signals? Are you using a FLEA?


I am using a Flea(broadcast sources only) with the EDGE and have a superb picture.

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Hell yeah! I love the extra "pop" I get when doing PC (only for sports though) under RGB. Remember, I am an eye candy extremist!

Turn up your brightness. It's basically the same. All that PC levels change vs. video levels are the signal levels that define white and black. There shouldn't be anything magic, unless your displays or source gear are poorly engineered.

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Aaron.........

Would you mind posting your Edge settings for SDTV, SD-Movies, and HD-Movies?

Game Boxes also if you use them....

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Yes, my Sony VW200 is poorly engineered...

It has more to do then just turning up the brightness... Maybe I should check out a Flea...

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Turn up your brightness. It's basically the same. All that PC levels change vs. video levels are the signal levels that define white and black. There shouldn't be anything magic, unless your displays or source gear are poorly engineered.

CalMAN insider? you're saying a gamma curve that is completely blown to hell can be fixed by turning up brightness a couple clicks? or did i miss some kind of humor here?
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Yes, my Sony VW200 is poorly engineered...

It has more to do then just turning up the brightness... Maybe I should check out a Flea...

Don't know if it will help any Joe..... I had my Bernese Mountain Dog sit both in front of the projector and also on top of the Edge... could not see a lot of improvement and he had tons of Flea's.

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I am using a Flea(broadcast sources only) with the EDGE and have a superb picture.

Lurking on this thread and trying to learn the ropes about VP's for a future purchase, so excuse my ignorance, but (other than an itchy little critter) what is FLEA?
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Ive added a few more pics. Lots of fingerprints

Thanks. You definitely have 'production' packaging...don't know about the faceplate, though

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That will get you through to Ken Nguyen, head of National Sales & Support.

Was it really necessary to post his address on this forum?

I'm sure he is luv'n you right about now...

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Does anyone know for sure Josh has left DVDO?

I am no longer with DVDO.

I would like to thank everyone for the support that they helped provide to the products that I managed (iScan HD+, iScan VP20, iScan VP30, iScan VP50, iScan VP50PRO and EDGE). You may see me posting from time to time but it won't be as a representative of DVDO/Anchor Bay.

For all those customers, beta testers and resellers that I have built relationships with over the years you can still reach me by sending me a PM or an email.

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Was it really necessary to post his address on this forum?

I'm sure he is luv'n you right about now...

Unbelievable - Pia-chan, in what way are you affiliated with DVDO?!

It seems that every single time something sligthly negative or even, in this case some kind offering of help, you´re all over the place, acting as some kind of insane watch-dog - how come?

If DVDO really had anything against any of the response and knowledge been spilt over in here, i would presume they would have enough manpower to appoint some staff to respond.

I really dont see how that can be your job?
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That's been his entire contribution so far... hall monitor


Josh, good luck to you mate. Wish you all the best.
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Josh, it has been a great time and I guess all of us here wish you all the best for the future!
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I've been holding off this post for too long... partly because I don't know if I'm breaking any agreements by posting here.

Well, I'm one of those beta testers here and have received my unit a month ago. First, the Edge works beautifully. Just that I have several technical issues and needed some support. For a month now, I have not received any response from their technical support including Josh. I have placed calls to their 888 tech support, emailed edgesupport@dvdo.com and CC Josh directly. At the moment, I am very disappointed with their service.

how's the response from their beta tester forum?
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how's the response from their beta tester forum?

What response? He said hes never gone there
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I'd like to thank Josh personally for all of his contributions to AVS. I am not sure how DVDO could let him get away when he is an obvious asset to them. Whoever attempts to take his place here on the Forum will have some really BIG shoes to fill. Goodluck Josh and I hope to see you around here...

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Lurking on this thread and trying to learn the ropes about VP's for a future purchase, so excuse my ignorance, but (other than an itchy little critter) what is FLEA?

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i'd like to thank josh personally for all of his contributions to avs. I am not sure how dvdo could let him get away when he is an obvious asset to them. Whoever attempts to take his place here on the forum will have some really big shoes to fill. Goodluck josh and i hope to see you around here...

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Since this unit had a lot of hype/talk, i guess it is a good thing there isn't much going on in here after units have been shipped and NDA's end? I take that as the unit works as expected and lives up to the results that are expected of the ABT, based on the VP50 and Oppo 983?

or are orders just not filled yet?
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Actually all of that is answered in recent pages of this thread.
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Yes, my Sony VW200 is poorly engineered...

It has more to do then just turning up the brightness... Maybe I should check out a Flea...

Check out a flea if you want, but the "pop" you are describing is most likely the result of the change in perceived brightness caused by level compression or expansion, depending upon how you have things configured on the input and output side.



I've posted this before in several places, so let's try this again to see if people understand the lack of magic here. How most VPs work (including The Edge):
  • Input levels matched to output levels (PC-PC, Video-Video): no change
  • PC levels in, Video levels out - Level compression (0 - 255 remapped into 16 - 235) - this is probably your increase in perceived "pop", but it will crush detail and fine gradations (more content, smaller bucket)
  • Video levels in, PC levels out - Level expansion (16 - 235 remapped to 0 - 255) which obviously gets rid of BTB/WTW information, which may be a problem if you are daisychaining multiple processors
The issue is what happens to the reference black and white levels, since the legal ranges (PC: 0 - 255, Video: 1 - 254) are fairly close. Personally, I'd just leave it on input levels being matched to output levels, and then tweak my PC accordingly (or bypass the VP altogether with the HTPC).

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CalMAN insider? you're saying a gamma curve that is completely blown to hell can be fixed by turning up brightness a couple clicks? or did i miss some kind of humor here?

You probably missed a reading comprehension class or two, and definitely a class or five in civility and manners. See above. Gamma curves have nothing to do with it when you start doing level expansion/compression. If you don't want a molested signal, then leave the levels issue alone.

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or are orders just not filled yet?

I haven't seem many "I received mine" type of posts... but FWIW I placed my preorder on the last day (per the original announcement) and the shipment tracking suggests it should arrive tomorrow. I guess that most of the preorders are either in peoples hands or should be very shortly.
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