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The DVDO® EDGE™ $799 retail is an affordable high quality video processor and A/V hub that converts standard definition, high definition and PC signals from up to ten sources (including six HDMI 1.3 compatible devices) to any HDTV resolution up to 1080p. EDGE has a very intuitive user interface which makes installation a breeze. EDGE has two HDMI 1.3 outputs, one with audio and video and one with audio only to facilitate connections to an HDMI/DVI equipped display and HDMI AV Receiver. An optical audio output is available for older AV Receivers. A backlit universal remote control with a luxurious “soft-touch” finish is also included. Images are available at the bottom of this post.

The DVDO EDGE incorporates all of Anchor Bay’s acclaimed Video Reference Series, VRS™, technologies on the ABT2010 ASIC, including:

Precision Deinterlacing™ – 480i/576i/1080i 10-bit Motion, Edge & Source Adaptive Deinterlacer
• Five-field motion adaptive deinterlacing
• Edge adaptive processing to produce smooth diagonal edges
• Three frame video processing delay (Max)
• Game Mode with very low latency (sub-1 frame delay)
• Arbitrary cadence detection (any:any) to detect non-standard cadences in input signals.
o Reliable 2:2 pull-down detection for 50Hz countries
o Detection of 2:2 ↔ 3:2 crossfades and out of phase 3:2 crossfades
o Detection of multiple source types within a frame
o Bad edit detection and compensation to minimize artifacts caused by sequence breaks in film content

PReP™ - Progressive ReProcessing of 480p and 576p input signals allows poor deinterlacing of any source to be undone and done correctly using Precision Deinterlacing™.

Mosquito Noise Reduction - Reduces random noise which appears along the edges of compressed images in SD and HD content

Fine Detail Enhancement – Extracts fine detail in low resolution or compressed SD or HD content

Edge Enhancement – Sharpens edges without adding ringing

Precision Video Scaling II™ - 10-bit Scaling up to 1080p

Progressive Cadence Detection™ of 480p, 576p, 720p and 1080p input signals – Allows source-locked framerate output of film-based content (24/25Hz)

Rightrate™ – High-Performance Framerate Conversion which enables 1080p-24Hz output of film-based content.

Precision A/V Lipsync™ - Intelligent digital audio delay technology to match Audio and Video timing

AutoCUE-C™ – Automatic Chroma Upsampling Error detection and correction

Features

Sleek New Product Design with luxurious “soft-touch” finish (Image available at the bottom of this post)

Intuitive Display/Source Setup Wizards make installation a breeze

User Definable Names for all inputs using keyboard entry

On Screen ‘Hints’ available for all controls

Dedicated HDMI Audio Only Output for connections to AV Receivers and Processors

Backlit Learning Universal Remote Control with luxurious “soft-touch” finish and Discrete Input selection. (Image available at the bottom of this post)

Rear Panel IR Input (mini-jack) for use with existing automation systems.

6 HDMI 1.3 Inputs which process 480i/p, 576i/p, 720p-50/60, 1080i-50/60, 1080p-24/25/50/60, and VGA-SXGA@60Hz signals. One of the inputs is hidden on the “front panel”. All HDMI inputs/outputs have increased spacing between connectors for cables with large overmolding.

Internal Universal Power Supply

Input Aspect Ratio Controls
•Presets: 4:3 full frame, 4:3 letterbox, 16:9 full frame, Panorama (non linear stretch)
•Flexible Horizontal and Vertical Zooming & Panning controls
•Overscan Adjustment per input with separate memories for SD and HD

Output Aspect Ratio Controls
•Presets: 4:3, 16:9
•Underscan Adjustment to eliminate Overscan inherent in a display

•Advanced time base correction (TBC) with frame synchronization
•High performance, multi-standard video decoder, 10-bit high dynamic range, deep color processing and 3D noise reduction (DNR)
•NTSC/PAL 3D comb filter
•Flexible Digital and Analog Audio switching and routing – 6 HDMI audio/video inputs, 5 assignable audio inputs (3 optical/1 coaxial/1 analog) with 1 HDMI audio/video output, 1 HDMI ‘Audio Only’ output, and 1 optical audio output.


•Preset output resolutions:

480p-60 (720x480@60Hz)
720p-60 (1280x720@60Hz)
1080i-60 (1920x1080@60Hz)
1080p-60 (1920x1080@60Hz)

576p-50 (720x576@50Hz)
720p-50 (1280x720@50Hz)
1080i-50 (1920x1080@50Hz)
1080p-50 (1920x1080@50Hz)

1080p-24 (1920x1080@24Hz)

VGA (640x480@60Hz)

Technical Specifications

Ten Video Inputs

• One Composite (NTSC/PAL/SECAM)
• One S-Video (NTSC/PAL/SECAM)
• One Component (YPbPr or RGB/S) processes 480i/p-60, 576i/p-50, 720p-50/60, 1080i-50/60, 1080p-60
• One Component/RGBHV (YPbPr/RGBS/RGBHV) processes 480i/p-60, 576i/p-50, 720p-50/60, 1080i-50/60, 1080p-60, VGA/SVGA/XGA/SXGA@60Hz
• Six HDMI 1.3 processes 480i/p, 576 i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p- 24/25/50/60, VGA/SVGA/XGA/SXGA@60Hz

Eleven Audio Inputs

• Six HDMI (HDMI v1.3)
• One Coaxial Digital (assignable)
• Three Optical Digital (assignable)
• One Analog Left/Right (assignable)

One HDMI 1.3 Audio/Video Output (For Display Connection)

• Backwards compatible with DVI displays

Two Digital Audio Outputs

• One HDMI 1.3 ‘Audio Only’ output for receivers with HDMI
• One Optical Digital for receivers without HDMI

Controls

• Backlit Universal IR remote control with direct input access codes and rear panel IR connector for RF-to-IR remote controls(mini-jack)
• Functions accessible via On Screen Display (OSD)
• USB port for service updates (not intended for new features)
• Fully programmable controls for each separate video input with non-volatile memories:
- Automatic input source detection & input priority selection
- Picture controls with memory for each input: Fine Detail, Edge Enhancement, Brightness, Contrast, Saturation, Hue
• Output Controls: Format/Resolution

Physical Dimensions (height x width x depth)

• 2.2” x 17” x 10.4” (26.3cm x 43.4cm x 5.5cm)

MSRP: $799

FAQs

Q: What new features does EDGE have that have never appeared in a DVDO product?
A:
• New Intuitive User Interface
• Setup Wizards
• Front Panel HDMI Input
• Sleek New Product Design
• Improved Spacing between All HDMI Connections
• Rear Panel IR Connection
• Internal Power Supply
• Backlit Universal Remote Control

Q: What VRS™, Video Reference Series, technologies are incorporated into the DVDO EDGE?
A:
EDGE incorporates Anchor Bay's Mosquito Noise Reduction, Fine Detail Enhancement, Edge Enhancement, Precision Deinterlacing™, Precision Video Scaling II™, PReP™ (Progressive ReProcessing), Progressive Cadence Detection™, RightRate™ framerate conversion, AutoCUE-C™, and Precision AV LipSync™

Mosquito Noise Reduction

Video compression is a commonly used technique to squeeze more video content onto a disc, or beam down more channels via satellite, or transmit more channels over a cable. By using video compression content providers can achieve better economies of scale and offer the consumer more video content - e.g. more channels, bonus materials, etc. The problem with nearly all video compression methods is that too much of it causes compression artifacts. These artifacts are often seen by the viewer as ugly ringing around text letters or noise - often called mosquito noise.

To counter this Anchor Bay has developed a proprietary method of selectively removing mosquito noise. Unlike some methods of noise reduction that often makes the image worse by removing too much detail or causing blurring during motion, Anchor Bay's Mosquito Noise Reduction is designed to isolate the most objectionable of artifacts without removing detail or causing motion blur. To do this Anchor Bay had to devise a proprietary method of both isolating and predicting areas in the image where this noise is likely to occur. The end result is a highly effective noise reduction method that is impervious to motion, yet, largely maintains the integrity of the detail in the image through our conservative approach in removing video compression artifacts.

Images available here: http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support...0pro.php#faq10

Fine Detail & Edge Enhancement

Sharpness controls are not new in the world of video - nearly every TV sold in the last 20 years features a sharpness control. However, sharpening controls merely accentuate medium detail at the expense of fine detail and often add horrible "halos" around the edges and lines. While this trick was a reasonable approach for standard definition TV, when screen sizes were well under 30 inches, today's large screen TVs and HDTVs have made traditional sharpness controls highly undesirable since the damage they cause is now magnified with such larger screens. In addition, traditional sharpening controls tend to exaggerate any noise in the image by making it more pronounced so noise becomes even more pronounced when viewed on a large screen HDTV.

Anchor Bay has designed Fine Detail & Edge Enhancement with large screen HDTVs in mind. Using patent pending technology, Fine Detail & Edge Enhancement is able to isolate areas of the image where hard edges are prevalent and increase fine details without adding halos or ringing. The net effect is quite extraordinary - images have more "pop" and fine detail such as blades of grass or even the pores on an actor's face are drawn out making your large screen HDTV even more enjoyable. Moreover, Mosquito Noise Reduction can be used to remove objectionable ringing and noise in the image before using Fine Detail & Edge Enhancement to draw out the fine details in the image.

Images available here: http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support...0pro.php#faq10

Precision Deinterlacing™

Anchor Bay's 10-bit Precision Deinterlacing of standard and high definition delivers the image quality demanded by today's large-screen, high-resolution displays. It eliminates many of the artifacts found in common deinterlacers to produce a smooth image, free of artifacts such as jagged edges and combing. Precision Deinterlacing features five-field motion-adaptive deinterlacing and edge-adaptive processing for video sources, along with advanced cadence detection for film and animation sources. All processing is performed at full 10-bit resolution to preserve all the detail and subtle nuances in the video source. Edge-adaptive processing uses an adaptive, continuous-angle detection algorithm to accurately identify and smooth image edges.

Unique, "any-cadence" processing automatically locks to the wide variety of film and animation cadences found in current video sources, including non-standard cadences, and will track right through many types of "bad edits" and cadence changes. Precision Deinterlacing also features “Game Mode” with low-latency processing for maximum “playability”.

Precision Video Scaling™

Anchor Bay's 10-bit Precision Video Scaling technology is based on Anchor Bay's proprietary video scaling engine that can independently scale an image horizontally and vertically to achieve an outstanding picture quality for today's high resolution video displays. The scaling engine is completely flexible, accepting standard definition (480p, 576p) and high definition (720p, 1080i and 1080p) inputs and outputting the most popular resolutions from VGA (640x480) to 1080p (1920x1080). Since the scaling engine is completely flexible, other image manipulation features are also supported including zoom and pan.

PReP™, Progressive ReProcessing

Anchor Bay's Progressive ReProcessing (PReP™) is the video processing industry's first processing method that significantly improves progressive video signals and removes artifacts caused by inferior interlaced-to-progressive conversion.

Video signals that originate in an interlaced format are often degraded by artifacts incurred when the signal is converted from interlaced to progressive formats by general purpose chips in DVD players, AV receivers, and set-top boxes. Until now, there has been no way to improve these signals to optimize images on high-resolution displays. Poor interlaced-to-progressive conversion is especially problematic with large-screen HDTVs, as upscaling to higher resolutions often amplifies artifacts created in the conversion process, making them more noticeable.

As a solution to this problem, Anchor Bay introduces PReP, an advanced video processing technology that reverts the progressive video signal output from source equipment to its original interlaced format. PReP then converts the interlaced signal to progressive format, this time applying the source, edge, and motion adaptive algorithms in its Precision Deinterlacing™ technology to eliminate jaggies, combing, and other degrading effects. PReP technology in EDGE allows 480p and 576p to be processed by this method.

Progressive Cadence Detection™

Film-based content, which originated at 24 frames per second, is broadcast at 50 or 60Hz. Anchor Bay's Progressive Cadence Detection can lock on to the original 3:2 cadence in the broadcast, reacquiring the original 24 frames per second. This signal can then be output at a source-locked 24Hz eliminating the judder that existed in the original broadcast signal. Progressive Cadence Detection can be used with 480p, 576p, 720p and 1080p input signals.

RightRate

Anchor Bay's RightRate technology converts the input frame rate to the optimal display frame rate without causing 'tearing' in the output frame. Anchor Bay's high performance frame rate conversion also supports converting film sources from 24 frames per second to 60 frames per second for NTSC format and from 25 frames per second to 50 frames per second for PAL/SECAM format.

AutoCUE-C™

Anchor Bay's AutoCUE-C technology automatically detects and removes chroma artifacts that are caused by incorrect upsampling of the chroma (color) signals by MPEG decoders in DVD players and satellite receivers. These artifacts are especially noticeable as horizontal streaks in images with highly saturated colors. When the artifacts are removed, the resulting picture quality is significantly improved, providing a much clearer and true-to-life image.

Precision AV Lipsync™

Anchor Bay's Precision AV LipSync technology is designed to automatically delay the audio signal to match the video processing delay in other Anchor Bay products. As a result, the AV Lipsync problem that is caused by video processing delay is eliminated. If required, the audio delay can also be further adjusted (up to 200 milliseconds) to correct any AV Lipsync problem that may be already be present in the AV source.

Q: What is 'Game Mode'?
A:
This mode can reduce the amount of video delay to less than a single frame. In many competitive processors the effects of applying complex algorithms to the video image results in upwards of a seven frame delay. This can inhibit the real-time performance for gamers who want instantaneous response to react to stimuli and to realize peak performance from their application. The VRS Precision Deinterlacing™ Game Mode will reduce frame delay down to slightly less than one frame of video.


Q: What signals can the EDGE output?
A:
EDGE has one HDMI 1.3 output that outputs both audio and video. The second HDMI output only carries audio, with blank 720p video, which is intended to carry audio to a connected Audio/Video Receiver. If your source has a DVI output (and no HDMI output), a DVI-to-HDMI adapter or cable will be needed to connect this source to the EDGE. The same is true, if your display does not have an HDMI input, but does have a DVI input. DVI does not carry audio, so for DVI sources/displays an alternative method of connecting audio must be used.

EDGE can automatically determine and output the ‘preferred’ format of the display by reading the EDID of the connected display. Some displays do not report the correct information in which case, the user can select one of the available output formats including VGA, 480p, 576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p and 1080p-24.


Q: Tell me more about the HDMI connections on EDGE
A:
There are six HDMI inputs on EDGE (five on the back panel and one on the front). The HDMI inputs on EDGE can process 480i/p-60, 576i/p-50, 720p-50/60, 1080i-50/60, 1080p-24/25/50/60 and VGA/SVGA/XGA/SXGA@60Hz. The HDMI input and output connectors on the EDGE are backwards compatible with DVI-D inputs and outputs when used with an HDMI-to-DVI adapter or cable. Please note that DVI is a video-only connection that does not carry audio so an alternative method of connecting audio must be used.

Note that if you have an HDCP source and a non-HDCP display, you will probably not get a picture, whether or not you use EDGE.

Q: What kind of aspect ratio control does the EDGE offer?
A:
EDGE offers full control over the input aspect ratio. There are 4 predefined input aspect ratio settings:

4:3 Full Frame: to watch 4:3 content while preserving the aspect ratio

4:3 Letterbox: to watch 4:3 Letterbox, non-anamorphic, content full screen with no geometric distortion on a 16:9 display.

4:3 Non-Linear Stretch (Panorama): to watch 4:3 content stretched to fill a 16:9 display. In this mode, the image is distorted such that most of the stretching occurs at the side of the image, not the center.

16:9 Full Frame: to watch 16:9 anamorphic content while preserving the aspect ratio. This mode can also be used to watch 4:3 content on a 16:9 screen, although the image will be stretched horizontally

You may also use the zoom and pan controls to customize the input aspect ratio to your tastes. This allows the user to reformat the image in any way desired, so the EDGE doesn't enforce a set of fixed aspect ratios.

If you would like to zoom in on the image to remove the small black letterbox bars found with a 1.85:1 source on a 16:9 display, then you can simply do this with the direct access ‘Zoom -/+’ controls on the remote control or via the graphical user interface, GUI.

Q: What audio formats can the EDGE support?
A:
EDGE has three audio outputs: the HDMI audio/video output, the dedicated HDMI 1.3 audio only output and the optical digital output. If a source connected using HDMI is outputting high bit-rate audio, Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio, and EDGE is connected to an AV Receiver or Processor that supports these formats they will be passed through with the proper amount of delay to be in sync with the processed video. If the optical output is used with a source that supports high bit-rate audio, EDGE will communicate with the source to output an audio format that the optical connection is capable of carrying, stereo PCM or Dolby Digital/DTS. Audio that is input via the analog inputs can be output over HDMI or optical.
There are some HDMI sources that do not output the correct audio signal when connected to an HDMI repeater, like an AV receiver or video processor. In these instances, we recommend that use an alternative method of sending audio, like the optical or coaxial digital audio outputs.

The audio section of EDGE supports S/PDIF and PCM formatted audio with sample rates ranging from 24kHz to 192kHz. It will likely handle sample rates beyond this range, but is only guaranteed to support sample rates within this range. The EDGE will pass digital audio having any bit-depth resolution up to 24 bits, at all supported sample rates.

EDGE will also pass compressed digital audio (e.g. Dolby Digital or DTS) provided the audio bitstream has been properly formatted for S/PDIF (IEC60958 or EIAJ-CP1201 standard) transmission by the digital audio source (according to international standard IEC61937). The EDGE does not alter the sample rate, format, or content of the digital audio whatsoever; it merely inserts a programmable delay into the transmission path.

Users should take care to use proper digital audio cables in order to guarantee valid audio reception and re-transmission. Both coax and optical cables should have high-quality, positive mating connectors at both ends. Coax cables should have a 75-ohm characteristic impedance. The use of couplers or other types of adapters to extend the digital audio cabling is not recommended.

Q: Tell me more about the lipsync correction on EDGE
A:
EDGE has 4 discrete digital audio inputs (3 optical and 1 coaxial) and 1 analog audio input (L/R) each of which can be assigned to any of the video inputs. The HDMI 1.3 inputs can also accept audio, if the video signal is on the same input. EDGE is also compatible with high bit-rate audio, like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-Master Audio. If the incoming HDMI signal has HDCP, then EDGE can not output this audio using the optical or coaxial digital outputs, only the HDMI output. When you switch to a particular video input, then the audio input which has been user-assigned to that video input will also be selected. For example, when you switch to Video, then the audio input which has been user-assigned to Video will also be selected.

The digital audio outputs provide a delay which matches the video processing delay of EDGE. Note that this delay will vary depending on the current configuration and processing mode of EDGE. 50 Hz sources will require a different amount of delay than 60 Hz sources, and frame rate conversion requires more delay than no frame rate conversion.

The correct audio delay for all inputs is set automatically, so you need to do nothing extra to match audio and video delays. In addition, there is a user-adjustable delay which can be added or subtracted on top of the automatically set delay for problem sources.

Anchor Bay's digital audio technology is called "Precision AV Lipsync™".


Q: Does EDGE have an On Screen Display (OSD)?
A:
Yes, there is a very intuitive OSD that allows you to control all of the major parameters: output resolution, aspect ratio, picture controls, and audio delay. There are hints available with all controls to assist inexperienced users.

Q: How does EDGE detect incoming signals?
A:
EDGE has been designed to detect which of the ten possible input devices is turned on and is generating an active signal, and then to automatically switch to that input. With this capability, you can switch inputs simply by turning one input device on or by turning another device off.

EDGE also includes an "Input Priority" option which specifies which of the inputs to use when they are multiple active inputs.

Q: What kind of power supply does EDGE have?
A:
The EDGE comes with a universal internal power supply, which accepts 100-240 VAC at 50/60Hz.

Q: Will the EDGE improve the picture quality of standard definition channels from my satellite system (DSS)?
A:
Picture improvement of heavily compressed standard, and even high, definition satellite channels is often very subjective, and depends to a great deal on exactly which aspects of the image are objectionable. The EDGE does incorporate three new technologies that do specifically address this issue: Mosquito Noise Reduction, Fine Detail Enhancement and Edge Enhancement.

One artifact of compression is mosquito noise. This kind of compression noise is apparent along the edges of compressed images, especially text. Anchor Bay's Mosquito Noise Reduction can significantly reduce this noise providing an appreciably better picture. Additionally, Anchor Bay's Fine Detail Enhancement can extract fine details in the image that were masked by this compression. Finally, Anchor Bay's Edge Enhancement can improve the perceived sharpness of the image without adding additional ringing.


Q: What does the color of the power LED on EDGE mean?
A:
EDGE power LED color table:

LED Description
No LED = Standby Mode
Red/Solid = No Signal Received
Green/Solid = Unknown/Unsupported Signal Received
Blue/Solid = The EDGE is processing the input


Specifications and features subject to change without notice.

DVDO and DVDO EDGE are trademarks of Anchor Bay Technologies.
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When do you expect to start shipping these?

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Impressive features at an impressive price...

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How would this hold up to the Reon in my Onkyo 875? Blows it out of the water? Not as good? Slightly worse? Slightly better?
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Should this unit have better performance than a VP20 with ABT102? It does seem to have more advanced features...

All I want is the best picture quality within this price range. Able to output 1366x768 and 1360x768 over HDMI is also a major factor me for.

My options were a VP20 w/102 and Gefen with Realta (who knows when ). Now this too. I was just thinking today, why video processors aren't hitting this price target.


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I guess we will have to wait and see how it performs. An ETA would be nice...

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Looking forward to seeing more! However, this:

Quote:


480p-60 (720x480@60Hz)
720p-60 (1280x720@60Hz)
1080i-60 (1920x1080@60Hz)
1080p-60 (1920x1080@60Hz)

576p-50 (720x576@50Hz)
720p-50 (1280x720@50Hz)
1080i-50 (1920x1080@50Hz)
1080p-50 (1920x1080@50Hz)

1080p-24 (1920x1080@24Hz)

VGA (640x480@60Hz)


bothers me. Are you limited to these presets or can you customize resolutions? No love for plasma/oddball lcd? and only 1 VGA resolution?

I would love to feed my display its native resolution (1366) with this guy--hope there's customizations available. (and yes, my set accepts 1366 x 768 over HDMI and DVI without scaling--rare it seems)
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allright!!
re output aspect ratio controls.
is there a setting for the vertical stretch needed for a lens based 2.35:1 cih setup?
i went thru post twice but saw no reference to said subject.
or could it be done from input a/r controls?

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So the $799 question: if your display size is among the EDGE's presets, and you don't need SDI, is there any reason to get a VP50Pro over the EDGE?

This sounds perfect for someone with a 1080p panel display.

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EDGE is capable of detecting the "preferred" format that is reported by a display in its EDID. If that "preferred" format is not one of the default formats supported by EDGE (480p, 576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, or VGA) it can still be selected using the 'Auto' Output Format selection option. So if you have a 1920x1200 display that reports that 1920x1200 is the "preferred" format (which most PC monitors do) you will be able to output this resolution from your EDGE. If your display is a 1366x768 LCD that reports that its "preferred" format is 720p you will not be able to output the native resolution of this display.

There is no custom output timing option, like the VP30/VP50/VP50PRO have, on EDGE.

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Looks like this is targeted towards newer 1080p sets and not older 768p sets.
The VP line will handle those.
Awesome features for the price though.
This will set the new price vs performance bar very high.

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It's nice that ABT has finally decided to upgrade their remote design to a backlit one. I've always found it ironic that one of my more expensive components has one of the cheapest looking remotes. Then again I've mapped out most of my favorite buttons onto my receiver's remote, and maybe ABT rightly assumed that most of us wouldn't use the supplied remote.

I'm really glad that the Edge is incorporating HDMI 1.3 since I am amongst those who currently has to choose between no bitstream to my receiver or placing the receiver before the DVDO and forgoing lipsynch and auto switching. I for one am too lazy to adjust the audio delay each time my resolution changes and really like auto switching (I hope this will be an included feature) so am currently passing LPCM over HDMI. This would be the biggest reason for me to upgrade since I recently bought a Algolith Flea (instead of upgrading to the Pro) for noise reduction.

I also wonder what advantages the VP20/30/50 still have over the Edge and might be amongst those who make the upgrade. I notice that the Edge has far fewer non HDMI ins listed, but this isn't a problem since my LD player is the only thing that I have that doesn't have HDMI. I also don't see test pattens listed, but assume it was just forgotten on the list since it is an easy feature to include.

Is having an internal power supply an upgrade? I am amongst the many who had my power supply die on me and had to buy a replacement. Wouldn't having an internal supply raise the temperature? I assume that the Edge will be a fanless system.
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allright!!
re output aspect ratio controls.
is there a setting for the vertical stretch needed for a lens based 2.35:1 cih setup?
i went thru post twice but saw no reference to said subject.
or could it be done from input a/r controls?

A 33% vertical stretch can be accomplished by using the Vertical Zoom control on the input.

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I also don't see test pattens listed, but assume it was just forgotten on the list since it is an easy feature to include.

There are no internal test patterns included in EDGE.

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Is having an internal power supply an upgrade? I am amongst the many who had my power supply die on me and had to buy a replacement. Wouldn't having an internal supply raise the temperature? I assume that the Edge will be a fanless system.

The internal power supply on EDGE is very robust. EDGE is fanless and there are no issues with heat on EDGE .

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So I may sale my 50pro and get the EDGE. Is there any reason not to?

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If tradition holds it won't be out until November. Does that sound about right?

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You have my attention. How do the chips in the EDGE compare to the purported Gefen TV Pro?
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So I may sale my 50pro and get the EDGE. Is there any reason not to?

EDGE is based on our ABT2010 ASIC which has all of the technology currently in the VP50PRO. VP50PRO is based on FPGAs which can be updated with new algorithms not available on our ABT2010. That is as much as I am going to say right now.

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If tradition holds it won't be out until November. Does that sound about right?

Stay tuned for a special "Public Beta" offer that should appear in the 'Sticky' section. I think you will be surprised how close we are to the EDGE.

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Great. I will be more than happy to BETA test for you...

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See my sticky on the top of the forum about beta testers!!

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Josh, will it have the ability to output a zoomed out 2.35 image and than instantly shrink it for 16x9 material like the 50 can?
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How would this hold up to the Reon in my Onkyo 875? Blows it out of the water? Not as good? Slightly worse? Slightly better?

loads better, not even close

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Wow, that is an insanely good deal. I'll probably be keeping my VP50Pro, but I have to wonder if DVDO will release a new VP model after this since the Edge will be so inexpensive and will do all the essentials of the Pro.

I can't imagine too many people will be interested in paying $2000+ for a high-end processor from here on, DVDO or otherwise. But I hope DVDO will try and lure more customers with improvements to the Pro.
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I will be curious to see how it performs against the 50pro. I will also second Gary and say the REON in the Onkyo/Integra units will not even come close...

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EDGE is based on our ABT2010 ASIC which has all of the technology currently in the VP50PRO. VP50PRO is based on FPGAs which can be updated with new algorithms not available on our ABT2010. That is as much as I am going to say right now.



And the downside is...? (besides no custom res.) This looks like hella performance for the price.


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wow this is awesome!
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Any possibility that the Edge could be upgraded with Test Patterns and Color Management adjustments in the future (I see there is a Service Port on the back)?

I think that these are the only things stopping this from being an absolute killer product (at present its just a killer!)

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Josh wrote:
> Progressive Cadence Detection™

Film-based content, which originated at 24 frames per second, is broadcast at 50 or 60Hz. Anchor Bay's Progressive Cadence Detection can lock on to the original 3:2 cadence in the broadcast, reacquiring the original 24 frames per second. This signal can then be output at a source-locked 24Hz eliminating the judder that existed in the original broadcast signal. Progressive ReProcessing can be used with 480p, 576p, 720p and 1080p input signals.
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Bolding added by me. The first (PReP) looks like it got misplaced. The second (1080p) doesn't make much sense in the context of "Film-based content, which originated at 24 frames per second, is broadcast at 50 or 60Hz...", since no content is broadcast at 1080p.

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Hmm how would this perform on my Pioneer 5080XD vs. a Lumagen HDP?

Will the missing 1366*768 be an issue with my display?

Otherwise it sure sounds like a steal.
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