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The iScan Duo is the first DVDO video processor with dual HDMI 1.3 video output capability, allowing connection to two separate displays.

The iScan Duo converts standard definition, high definition and PC signals from up to fifteen sources (including eight HDMI 1.3 compatible devices) to any output resolution up to 1080p through either HDMI video output. The iScan Duo has three HDMI 1.3 outputs, two with audio and video and one with audio only to facilitate connections to two HDMI/DVI equipped displays and one HDMI AV Receiver. One optical and one coaxial audio outputs are available for older AV Receivers.


The DVDO iScan Duo incorporates several of Anchor Bay's acclaimed Video Reference Series, VRS, technologies on the ABT2010 ASIC, including:



Precision Deinterlacing - 480i/576i/1080i 10-bit Motion, Edge & Source Adaptive Deinterlacer
Five-field motion adaptive deinterlacing

Edge adaptive processing to produce smooth diagonal edges

Maximum three frame video processing delay

Game Mode with very low latency (sub-1 frame delay)

Multi cadence detection including 2:2, 3:2, 3:2:2:3:2, 2:2:2:4, 4:6, 5:5, and 8:7
Forced 2:2 modes for reliable PAL deinterlacing
Forced 3:2 mode enables 1080p24 output



PReP - Progressive ReProcessing of 480p, 576p and 1080p input signals allows poor deinterlacing of any source to be undone and done correctly using Precision Deinterlacing.



Mosquito Noise Reduction - Reduces random noise which appears along the edges of compressed images in SD and HD content

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Fine Detail Enhancement - Extracts fine detail in low resolution or compressed SD or HD content.



Edge Enhancement - Sharpens edges without adding ringing

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Precision Video Scaling II - 10-bit Scaling up to 1080p.



Rightrate - High-Performance Framerate Conversion which enables different output frame rates including 1080p24 and 1080p25 for film based content.


Precision A/V Lipsync - Intelligent digital audio delay technology to match Audio and Video timing.



AutoCUE-C - Automatic Chroma Upsampling Error detection and correction
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Features



Two HDMI 1.3 video outputs supporting two display applications, for example LCD TV and projector.

Third HDMI 1.3 audio only output for connections to AV Receivers and Processors.

15 video inputs including 8 HDMI 1.3 inputs which process 480i/p-60, 576i/p-50, 720p-50/60, 1080i-50/60, 1080p-24/25/50/60, and VGA-SXGA@60Hz signals.

Flexible Digital and Analog Audio switching and routing - 8 HDMI 1.3 audio/video inputs, 6 assignable audio inputs (4 digital, 2 analog) with two HDMI 1.3 audio/video outputs and 3 digital audio outputs (HDMI/optical/coaxial).

Individual Picture Controls per input and per SD/HD format.

Flexible Input Aspect Ratio Control

High performance, multi-standard video decoder with 3D comb filter and supporting up to 1080p input resolutions.

Serial Port for automation.

Rear Panel IR input and output.

Two programmable 12V triggers (source 50mA each).

Intuitive Display/Source Setup Wizards make installation a breeze

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User Definable Names for all inputs using keyboard entry.



On Screen Hints' available for all controls
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External 12V Universal Power Supply (100-240 VAC @ 50-60 Hz).


Input Aspect Ratio Controls

Presets: 4:3 full frame, 4:3 letterbox, 16:9 full frame, Panorama (non linear stretch).

Flexible Horizontal and Vertical Zooming & Panning controls.
Overscan Adjustment per input with separate memories for SD and HD

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Output Aspect Ratio Controls.


Presets: 4:3, 16:9 

Underscan Adjustment to eliminate Overscan inherent in a display

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Preset output resolutions: 


480p-60 (720x480@60Hz)

720p-60 (1280x720@60Hz)

1080i-60 (1920x1080@60Hz)

1080p-60 (1920x1080@60Hz)



576p-50 (720x576@50Hz)

720p-50 (1280x720@50Hz)

1080i-50 (1920x1080@50Hz)

1080p-50 (1920x1080@50Hz)



1080p-24 (1920x1080@24Hz)



VGA (640x480@60Hz)



Technical Specifications



Fifteen Video Inputs 

8 HDMI 1.3 (RGB or YCbCr) processes 480i/p-60, 576i/p-50, 720p-50/60, 1080i-50/60, 1080p-24/25/50/60, VGA-SXGA@60Hz
2 Component (YPbPr or RGB/S) processes 480i/p-60, 576i/p-50, 720p-50/60, 1080i-50/60, 1080p-50/60
1 HD15 (VGA, SVGA, XGA, SXGA @ 60Hz)
1 S-Video (NTSC/PAL/SECAM)
3 Composite (NTSC/PAL/SECAM)



Forteen Audio Inputs

 8 HDMI 1.3 (Compatible with Multi-channel PCM, DSD, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD, and DTS-HD Master audio formats)
3 Assignable Optical Digital
1 Assignable Coaxial Digital
2 Assignable Analog Pairs (L/R)



Outputs
2 HDMI 1.3 Audio/Video Outputs (for Connection to 2 Displays)
Configurable for RGB or YCbCr
Also carries digital audio (Compatible with Multi-channel PCM, DSD, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD, and DTS-HD Master audio formats)
3 Digital Audio Outputs
1 HDMI 1.3 Audio Only' output for receivers with HDMI (Compatible with Multi-channel PCM, DSD, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD, and DTS-HD Master audio formats)
1 Coaxial Digital
1 Optical Digital

Controls

 Intuitive On Screen Display (OSD) and easy to read 2 line, 20 character Front Panel LED Display.
Front Panel Controls, included IR Remote Control (discrete codes available), 2 rear panel IR connectors (IN & OUT) & RS232 port.
Mini USB port for firmware updates
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Fully programmable controls for each separate video input with non-volatile memories:

- Automatic input source detection & input priority selection

- Picture controls with memory for each input: Fine Detail, Edge Enhancement, Brightness, Contrast, Saturation, Hue

 35 Built-in test patterns for ease of set up.


Physical Dimensions (height x width x depth)

10.4 x 17 x 2.2 (26.3cm x 43.4cm x 5.5cm)

Rack-mount kit : included


MSRP: $1,299
Production units shipping late September


Specifications and features subject to change without notice.



FAQs



Q: What Video Reference Series (VRS) technologies are incorporated into the iScan Duo?
A: iScan Duo incorporates Anchor Bay's Mosquito Noise Reduction, Fine Detail Enhancement, Edge Enhancement, Precision Deinterlacing, Precision Video Scaling, PReP (Progressive ReProcessing), Progressive Cadence Detection, RightRate framerate conversion, AutoCUE-C, and Precision AV LipSync.

Mosquito Noise Reduction
Video compression is a commonly used technique to squeeze more video content onto a disc, or beam down more channels via satellite, or transmit more channels over a cable. By using video compression content providers can achieve better economies of scale and offer the consumer more video content - e.g. more channels, bonus materials, etc. The problem with nearly all video compression methods is that too much of it causes compression artifacts. These artifacts are often seen by the viewer as ugly ringing around text letters or noise - often called mosquito noise. To counter this Anchor Bay has developed a proprietary method of selectively removing mosquito noise. Unlike some methods of noise reduction that often makes the image worse by removing too much detail or causing blurring during motion, Anchor Bay's Mosquito Noise Reduction is designed to isolate the most objectionable of artifacts without removing detail or causing motion blur. To do this Anchor Bay had to devise a proprietary method of both isolating and predicting areas in the image where this noise is likely to occur. The end result is a highly effective noise reduction method that is impervious to motion, yet, largely maintains the integrity of the detail in the image through our conservative approach in removing video compression artifacts.

Fine Detail & Edge Enhancement
Sharpness controls are not new in the world of video - nearly every TV sold in the last 20 years features a sharpness control. However, sharpening controls merely accentuate medium detail at the expense of fine detail and often add horrible "halos" around the edges and lines. While this trick was a reasonable approach for standard definition TV, when screen sizes were well under 30 inches, today's large screen TVs and HDTVs have made traditional sharpness controls highly undesirable since the damage they cause is now magnified with such larger screens. In addition, traditional sharpening controls tend to exaggerate any noise in the image by making it more pronounced so noise becomes even more pronounced when viewed on a large screen HDTV. Anchor Bay has designed Fine Detail & Edge Enhancement with large screen HDTVs in mind. Using patent pending technology, Fine Detail & Edge Enhancement is able to isolate areas of the image where hard edges are prevalent and increase fine details without adding halos or ringing. The net effect is quite extraordinary - images have more "pop" and fine detail such as blades of grass or even the pores on an actor's face are drawn out making your large screen HDTV even more enjoyable. Moreover, Mosquito Noise Reduction can be used to remove objectionable ringing and noise in the image before using Fine Detail & Edge Enhancement to draw out the fine details in the image.

Precision Deinterlacing
Anchor Bay's 10-bit Precision Deinterlacing of standard and high definition video delivers the image quality demanded by today's large-screen, high-resolution displays. It eliminates many of the artifacts found in common deinterlacers to produce a smooth image, free of artifacts such as jagged edges and combing. Precision Deinterlacing features five-field motion-adaptive deinterlacing and edge-adaptive processing for video sources, along with advanced cadence detection for film and animation sources. All processing is performed at full 10-bit resolution to preserve all the detail and subtle nuances in the video source. Edge-adaptive processing uses an adaptive, continuous-angle detection algorithm to accurately identify and smooth image edges. Unique, "any-cadence" processing automatically locks to the wide variety of film and animation cadences found in current video sources, including non-standard cadences, and will track right through many types of "bad edits" and cadence changes. Precision Deinterlacing also features Game Mode with low-latency processing for maximum "playability".

Precision Video Scaling
Anchor Bay's latest 10-bit Precision Video Scaling technology is based on Anchor Bay's proprietary video scaling engine that can independently scale an image horizontally and vertically to achieve an outstanding picture quality for today's high resolution video displays. The scaling engine is completely flexible, accepting standard definition (480p, 576p) and high definition (720p, 1080i and 1080p) inputs and outputting the most popular resolutions from VGA (640x480) to 1080p (1920x1080). Since the scaling engine is completely flexible, other image manipulation features are also supported including zoom and pan. Non-linear stretch or panorama mode is also supported for 4:3 images that need to fill 16:9 displays without showing borders.

PReP, Progressive ReProcessing
Anchor Bay's Progressive ReProcessing (PReP) is the video processing industry's first processing method that significantly improves progressive video signals and removes artifacts caused by inferior interlaced-to-progressive conversion. 
Video signals that originate in an interlaced format are often degraded by artifacts incurred when the signal is converted from interlaced to progressive formats by general purpose chips in DVD players, AV receivers, and set-top boxes. Until now, there has been no way to improve these signals to optimize images on high-resolution displays. Poor interlaced-to-progressive conversion is especially problematic with large-screen HDTVs, as upscaling to higher resolutions often amplifies artifacts created in the conversion process, making them more noticeable.
As a solution to this problem, Anchor Bay introduces PReP, an advanced video processing technology that reverts the progressive video signal output from source equipment to its original interlaced format. PReP then converts the interlaced signal to progressive format, this time applying the source, edge, and motion adaptive algorithms in its Precision Deinterlacing technology to eliminate jaggies, combing, and other degrading effects. In iScan Duo, PReP technology allows 480p, 576p, 1080p50 and 1080p60 formats to be processed by this method.

Progressive Cadence Detection
Film-based content, which originated at 24 frames per second, is broadcast at 50 or 60Hz. Anchor Bay's Progressive Cadence Detection can lock on to the original 3:2 cadence in the broadcast, reacquiring the original 24 frames per second. This signal can then be output at a source-locked 24Hz eliminating the judder that existed in the original broadcast signal. Progressive Cadence Detection can be used with 480p, 576p, 720p50, 720p60 1080p50, 1080p60 input signals.

RightRate
Anchor Bay's RightRate technology converts the input frame rate to the optimal display frame rate without causing 'tearing' in the output frame. Anchor Bay's high performance frame rate conversion also supports converting film sources from 24 frames per second to 60 frames per second for NTSC format and from 25 frames per second to 50 frames per second for PAL/SECAM format.

AutoCUE-C
Anchor Bay's AutoCUE-C technology automatically detects and removes chroma artifacts that are caused by incorrect upsampling of the chroma (color) signals by MPEG decoders in DVD players and satellite receivers. These artifacts are especially noticeable as horizontal streaks in images with highly saturated colors. When the artifacts are removed, the resulting picture quality is significantly improved, providing a much clearer and true-to-life image.

Precision AV Lipsync
Anchor Bay's Precision AV LipSync technology is designed to automatically delay the audio signal to match the video processing delay in other Anchor Bay products. As a result, the AV Lipsync problem that is caused by video processing delay is eliminated. If required, the audio delay can also be further adjusted to correct any AV Lipsync problem that may be already be present in the AV source.

Q: What is 'Game Mode'?
A: This mode can reduce the amount of video delay to less than a single frame. In many competitive processors the effects of applying complex algorithms to the video image results in upwards of a seven frame delay. This can inhibit the real-time performance for gamers who want instantaneous response to react to stimuli and to realize peak performance from their application. The VRS Precision Deinterlacing Game Mode will reduce frame delay down to slightly less than one frame of video.

Q: What signals can the iScan Duo output?
A: iScan Duo has two HDMI 1.3 audio/video outputs to allow connection to two displays, for e.g. an LCD TV and a projector without requiring an HDMI splitter. The third HDMI output only carries audio, with blank 720p video, which is intended to carry audio to a connected Audio/Video Receiver. If your source has a DVI output (and no HDMI output), a DVI-to-HDMI adapter or cable will be needed to connect this source to the iScan Duo. The same is true, if your display does not have an HDMI input, but does have a DVI input. DVI does not carry audio, so for DVI sources/displays an alternative method of connecting audio must be used. iScan Duo can automatically determine and output the preferred' format of the display by reading the EDID of the connected display. Some displays do not report the correct information in which case, the user can select one of the available output formats including 480p, 576p, 720p50/60, 1080i50/60, 1080p24/25/50/60,VGA,SVGA,XGA,SXGA@60Hz.

Q: Tell me more about the HDMI connections on iScan Duo
A: There are eight HDMI 1.3 inputs on iScan Duo. The HDMI inputs on iScan Duo can process 480i/p-60, 576i/p-50, 720p-50/60, 1080i-50/60, 1080p-24/25/50/60 and VGA/SVGA/XGA/SXGA@60Hz. The HDMI input and output connectors on the iScan Duo are backwards compatible with DVI-D inputs and outputs when used with an HDMI-to-DVI adapter or cable. Please note that DVI is a video-only connection that does not carry audio so an alternative method of connecting audio must be used. 
Note that if you have an HDCP source and a non-HDCP display, you will probably not get a picture, whether or not you use iScan Duo.

Q: What kind of aspect ratio control does the iScan Duo offer?
A: iScan Duo has 4 predefined input aspect ratio settings:

4:3 Full Frame: to watch 4:3 content while preserving the aspect ratio
4:3 Letterbox: to watch 4:3 Letterbox, non-anamorphic, content full screen with no geometric distortion on a 16:9 display.
4:3 Non-Linear Stretch (Panorama): to watch 4:3 content stretched to fill a 16:9 display. In this mode, the image is distorted such that most of the stretching occurs at the side of the image, not the center. 
16:9 Full Frame: to watch 16:9 anamorphic content while preserving the aspect ratio. This mode can also be used to watch 4:3 content on a 16:9 screen, although the image will be stretched horizontally

You may also control the size and position of the input image on your display with the Stretch and Shift buttons on the remote control or with the on-screen menu. If you would like to zoom in on the image to remove the small black letterbox bars found with a 1.85:1 source on a 16:9 display for example , then you can simply do this with the Zoom Up and Zoom Down buttons on the remote control or with the on-screen menu.

Q: What audio formats can the iScan Duo support?
A: iScan Duo has five audio outputs: the two HDMI audio/video outputs, the dedicated HDMI 1.3 audio only output, the optical digital output and the coaxial digital output. If a source connected using HDMI is outputting high bit-rate audio, Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio, and iScan Duo is connected to an AV Receiver or Processor that supports these formats they will be passed through with the proper amount of delay to be in sync with the processed video. If the optical output is used with a source that supports high bit-rate audio, iScan Duo will communicate with the source to output an audio format that the optical connection is capable of carrying, stereo PCM or Dolby Digital/DTS. Audio that is input via the analog inputs can be output over HDMI or optical. There are some HDMI sources that do not output the correct audio signal when connected to an HDMI repeater, like an AV receiver or video processor. In these instances, we recommend that use an alternative method of sending audio, like the optical or coaxial digital audio outputs. 
The audio section of iScan Duo supports S/PDIF and PCM formatted audio with sample rates ranging from 24kHz to 192kHz. It will likely handle sample rates beyond this range, but is only guaranteed to support sample rates within this range. The iScan Duo will pass digital audio having any bit-depth resolution up to 24 bits, at all supported sample rates.
iScan Duo will also pass compressed digital audio (e.g. Dolby Digital or DTS) provided the audio bitstream has been properly formatted for S/PDIF (IEC60958 or EIAJ-CP1201 standard) transmission by the digital audio source (according to international standard IEC61937). The iScan Duo does not alter the sample rate, format, or content of the digital audio whatsoever; it merely inserts a programmable delay into the transmission path.
The iScan Duo will also pass-through SACD (DSD) signals through HDMI.
Users should take care to use proper digital audio cables in order to guarantee valid audio reception and re-transmission. Both coax and optical cables should have high-quality, positive mating connectors at both ends. Coax cables should have a 75-ohm characteristic impedance. The use of couplers or other types of adapters to extend the digital audio cabling is not recommended.

Q: Tell me more about the lipsync correction on iScan Duo
A: iScan Duo has 4 discrete digital audio inputs (3 optical and 1 coaxial) and 2 analog audio inputs (L/R) each of which can be assigned to any of the video inputs. The HDMI 1.3 inputs can also accept audio, if the video signal is on the same input. iScan Duo is also compatible with high bit-rate audio, like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-Master Audio. If the incoming HDMI signal has HDCP, then iScan Duo cannot output this audio using the optical or coaxial digital outputs, only the HDMI output. When you switch to a particular video input, then the audio input which has been user-assigned to that video input will also be selected. For example, when you switch to Video, then the audio input which has been user-assigned to Video will also be selected. 
The digital audio outputs provide a delay which matches the video processing delay of iScan Duo. Note that this delay will vary depending on the current configuration and processing mode of iScan Duo. 50 Hz sources will require a different amount of delay than 60 Hz sources, and frame rate conversion requires more delay than no frame rate conversion. The correct audio delay for all inputs is set automatically, so you need to do nothing extra to match audio and video delays. In addition, there is a user-adjustable delay which can be added or subtracted on top of the automatically set delay for problem sources. Anchor Bay's digital audio technology is called "Precision AV Lipsync". The iScan Duo also supports the DSD audio format on HDMI.

Q: Does iScan Duo have an On Screen Display (OSD)?
A: Yes, there is a very intuitive OSD that allows you to control all of the major parameters: output resolution, aspect ratio, picture controls, and audio delay. There are hints available with all controls to assist inexperienced users.

Q: How does iScan Duo detect incoming signals?
A: iScan Duo has been designed to detect which of the fifteen possible input devices is turned on and is generating an active signal, and then to automatically switch to that input. With this capability, you can switch inputs simply by turning one input device on or by turning another device off. iScan Duo also includes an "Input Priority" option which specifies which of the inputs to use when they are multiple active inputs.

Q: What kind of power supply does iScan Duo have?
A: The iScan Duo comes with a universal 12VDC @ 5A AC to DC external power adapter, which accepts 100-240 VAC at 50/60Hz.

Q: Will the iScan Duo improve the picture quality of standard definition channels from my satellite or cable system?
A: Picture improvement of heavily compressed standard, and even high, definition satellite channels is often very subjective, and depends to a great deal on exactly which aspects of the image are objectionable. The iScan Duo does incorporate three new technologies that do specifically address this issue: Mosquito Noise Reduction, Fine Detail Enhancement and Edge Enhancement. One artifact of compression is mosquito noise. This kind of compression noise is apparent along the edges of compressed images, especially text. Anchor Bay's Mosquito Noise Reduction can significantly reduce this noise providing an appreciably better picture. Additionally, Anchor Bay's Fine Detail Enhancement can extract fine details in the image that were masked by this compression. Finally, Anchor Bay's Edge Enhancement can improve the perceived sharpness of the image without adding additional ringing.

Q: What does the color of the Status LED on iScan Duo mean?
A: iScan Duo power LED color table:


No LED = Standby Mode or Front Panel Brightness set to 0 

Red/Solid = No Signal Received

Green/Solid = Unknown/Unsupported Signal Received

Blue/Solid = The iScan Duo is processing the input
Blue/Blinking = The iScan Duo is processing the HDCP input signal but the display is not HDCP compliant (DVI or Analog)


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Thanks Guys (though I hoped for a more high-end unit)! And we already feared to experience the first year without a new DVDO processor

No pictures available yet ?
Will there be a beta program to sign up to ?
Did you guys work on the scaling engine in any way ?
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I'm pi**ed.
The VP50pro still doesn't work as advertised and now there is an new VP.
Same procedure as with the "VP50 -> VP50pro" and the "VP50pro -> Edge".
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no offence, but that's the same reaction as every year by a bunch of people. I'm a 50pro user as well and I do as well hope (and beg) for new firmware version. Nevertheless I'm happy that a company still dares to introduce a new video processor every once in a while.
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no offence, but that's the same reaction as every year by a bunch of people. I'm a 50pro user as well and I do as well hope (and beg) for new firmware version. Nevertheless I'm happy that a company still dares to introduce a new video processor every once in a while.

But, nevertheless, it is ridiculous that the last FW-update for the Pro is 9 month old.

There are errors which are known for 2 years....
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Reading the announcement more carefully, I wonder what we get for the $500 extra charge compared to the current Edge version ?

I guess I'm not alone in thinking that $500 might be a bit much for 3 additional HDMI inputs and one additional output. An active 1:2 splitter is around $50 and an input switch is about the same, so where's the extra cost coming from ?
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Interesting. So this is basically an EDGE with some additional in- and outputs? Or can we expect some more software features as well (I'm not seeing any more than on the EDGE right now)?
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Reading the announcement more carefully, I wonder what we get for the $500 extra charge compared to the current Edge version ?

I guess I'm not alone in thinking that $500 might be a bit much for 3 additional HDMI inputs and one additional output. An active 1:2 splitter is around $50 and an input switch is about the same, so where's the extra cost coming from ?

The extra HDMI video output is only useful for me IFF they can be seperately set for deep color or not deep color. I already have an Edge going to a splitter which has an LCD and projector attached. Having the projector connected disables deep color output in the Edge.

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Reading the announcement more carefully, I wonder what we get for the $500 extra charge compared to the current Edge version ?

I guess I'm not alone in thinking that $500 might be a bit much for 3 additional HDMI inputs and one additional output. An active 1:2 splitter is around $50 and an input switch is about the same, so where's the extra cost coming from ?

It will be interesting to see how this develops. I'm surprised they didn't (as far as I can tell) show or announce this at CEDIA. The point you raise is valid--I would think serial control would be one of the things to set this apart from the EDGE, and the CEDIA crowd would be the ones to truly make use of that...
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With a closer look at the comparison table I guess the $500 are justified for people in need of those remote control features. Also happy to see they abandoned the Edge case and used the usual metal DVDO case for this one.

From a technical standpoint I wonder if the Duo uses the same destructice MNR feature the Edge uses or the enhanced MNR function the 50pro got with the 1.05 update earlier this year.
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No LUT or color management capabilities? Seems you would have done that to answer the Radiance???? The Radiance has a poor UI as I understand so there was Anchor Bay's chance to raise the bar.

There is some speculation here that the video processor market is dying as displays now have good scalers inside. So I think to stay alive in the scaler market you need to adopt advanced features for the videophile group.

$5K is not too much for a good scaler. This new DUO is too close to the Edge in price and features.

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No LUT or color management capabilities? Seems you would have done that to answer the Radiance???? The Radiance has a poor UI as I understand so there was Anchor Bay's chance to raise the bar.

The GUI on the Radiance isn't bad by any means, it's just not as intuitive as DVDO's. I doubt many people in the market for a good VP would be technically inept enough to not be able to maneuver their way around the Radiance's menus.

DVDO has been talking about a FW update for the 50Pro that will introduce a CMS for some time now (since last year) - maybe they're waiting to bring their flagship product up to speed before releasing those same capabilities in the Duo. At the rate they release FW updates, who knows when that will be, if ever. It looks like their cycle of pushing new products out the door for revenue in lieu of fixing existing products has come full circle one again.

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Interesting. So this is basically an EDGE with some additional in- and outputs? Or can we expect some more software features as well (I'm not seeing any more than on the EDGE right now)?

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The increased connectivity will be of importance to some. Does it use the same chipset as the EDGE, I wonder?
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The increased connectivity will be of importance to some. Does it use the same chipset as the EDGE, I wonder?

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It's (Duo) exactly what you would get if the VP50pro and Edge mated. The best traits of both...

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At this point I just want to take the opportunity to welcome Ken@AnchorBay to the forum. I hope he can spend time here to listen to us DVDO customers, and give us some insight to our VP problems and their fixes.

Josh@DVDO used to be a gem of information, as was Dale Adams, I just hope we can get that rapport happening again with DVDO insiders.

I also hope that with the release of the new Duo product their software engineering effort isn't entirely devoted to fixing bugs on the new platform, to the exclusion of working on fixes or new features for VP50Pro.

First Question: What's your flagship product now, VP50Pro or Duo?
2nd Question: What can we expect with VP50Pro development from here?

Edit: I guess the Pro is still the flagship. I wonder why you'd buy the 50Pro over Duo if you didn't need HD-SDI or user defined output resolutions?

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Josh@DVDO used to be a gem of information, as was Dale Adams, I just hope we can get that rapport happening again with DVDO insiders.

Whatever happened to them?

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Will the duo pass DSD?
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Yeah JoshA, we all know who you were/are, and I for one really appreciated your input here when you were Josh@DVDO. But the real firepower you brought here was on account of being the DVDO Product Manager. We'd lost that access to DVDO insider info from then until now, and hopefully with Ken presenting here has restored some confidence that maybe DVDO will be listening to its customers on the forum here. We just want to be heard by someone who is in the position to be able to do something about what we're talking about.

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Yes We hear you DVDO Josh, But the BIG QUESTION REMAINS "will DVDO deliver" ...

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I wish they would deliver the VP60? to replace my VP50Pro with a full CMS and other tweaks, dual HDMI ouput (plus audio HDMI that passes DSD), how about split screen so I can watch two sources, etc. Bring it on soon! SJ
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Will the duo pass DSD?

Looking at the specs one would assume so. Doesn't the EDGE pass DSD?
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EDGE does not pass DSD and according to the FAQs that Ken posted above Duo does pass DSD.

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Software update by USB on Duo, nice. I guess that required a big hardware change to update the FPGA's? If only DVDO could up the update output rate!

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EDGE does not pass DSD and according to the FAQs that Ken posted above Duo does pass DSD.

The DSD feature wouldn't be of interest to me with my setup, but it's a clear advantage for those who'd use it. With the Duo, I would wonder if there's an increase in processing speed over the EDGE. Because my audio goes direct to my stereo and video goes through an EDGE to the display there's an obvious lag with a disc or two. Switching the EDGE to game mode solved this, by the way.

What's crazy is that I've had my EDGE for just under a year, and the Duo actually has my attention. I wonder about me.
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