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post #4411 of 8072 Old 10-22-2012, 08:26 PM
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I set my 790 custom settings at their defaults. Those settings are pretty much useless, creating more picture degradation than fixing it. Or your setup, run everything o the reciver and the receiver out to the Darblet thn from there to your TV.
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So the Darblet then has no issue with the Checkerboard, 3D format for DLP sets?

I wish I had picked up the conver needed for my DLP set a couple of years ago. Instead I waited and now it's double, to over $400, since it only comes with a couple of pairs of glasses. There is no option to just get the adapter to convert the 3D formats to the checkerboard pattern.

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darbee name="David Susilo" url="/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet/4410#post_22518217"]I set my 790 custom settings at their defaults. Those settings are pretty much useless, creating more picture degradation than fixing it. Or your setup, run everything o the reciver and the receiver out to the Darblet thn from there to your TV.[/quote]

Thanks for the help i start playing with those control and feel them useless thats is why i order the darbee to see if that helps.im happy with the picture quality. Of the 790 but whants to give darbee a try.thanks again for the advises
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So the Darblet then has no issue with the Checkerboard, 3D format for DLP sets?
I wish I had picked up the conver needed for my DLP set a couple of years ago. Instead I waited and now it's double, to over $400, since it only comes with a couple of pairs of glasses. There is no option to just get the adapter to convert the 3D formats to the checkerboard pattern.

Panasonic Blu-ray players can output 3D in checker board format. The DMP-BDT220 can be had for ~ $100.
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Panasonic Blu-ray players can output 3D in checker board format. The DMP-BDT220 can be had for ~ $100.

Yes I know, but that is not the only 3D content. Plus I don't play discs, I typically only play BD ISOs. And the new Popcorn Hour A 400 player I pre-orderedcan playback the 3D BD ISOs if I want 3D BD playback. The DLD needs the converter for any 3D content as well from FiOS, Vudu etc. I would rather put that $100 toward the converter the DLP needs than going back to viewing content with actual discs.

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Gasp. I can't believe it. I just UNsubscribed to this thread.

It has been a fun ride, but I am too busy enjoying my Darblet, and this thread has the most posted in thread of all of my subscriptions. I am sure that I will miss a ton of pure awesomeness, but I wish you all a kind farewell.


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I usually do not subscribe to threads/forums....this thread has been really 'fun' (unlike the bluray software section), and have gained that added pop to my projector, but now I'm here to help when I can, but I don't do 3D..... cool.gif

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Does anyone know what Darbee's normal response time is when emailing? Sent an email off last Thursday morning and haven't heard anything from them. Posts in this thread have referred to their excellent customer service, so not sure how long is "normal" for them to respond. A little disappointing to not be able to watch 3D content, but moreso to know I have a defective Darblet and am unable to return it as it's 9 days past their return window.

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Does anyone know what Darbee's normal response time is when emailing? Sent an email off last Thursday morning and haven't heard anything from them. Posts in this thread have referred to their excellent customer service, so not sure how long is "normal" for them to respond. A little disappointing to not be able to watch 3D content, but moreso to know I have a defective Darblet and am unable to return it as it's 9 days past their return window.
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They responded to my email the same day.
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Questions for Epson projector owners -
Is the 'Super Resolution' similar to what Darblet does?
Should I keep 'Super Resolution' turned off when using Darbee?
What about 'Sharpness' settings? I am thinking of keeping that at zero and cranking up Darblet effect instead. What do you think?
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Questions for Epson projector owners -
Is the 'Super Resolution' similar to what Darblet does?
Should I keep 'Super Resolution' turned off when using Darbee?
What about 'Sharpness' settings? I am thinking of keeping that at zero and cranking up Darblet effect instead. What do you think?

Try to turn off most, if not ALL of the post processing in the Epson. The Darblet will do the rest wink.gif

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What about the Sony HW series projectors ??? Which feature should we turn off when using Darbee ?

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This just a matter of preference, but I still turn on DRC and set it to its minimum setting with Darblet on green-mode at 50%.

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Well for some reason frame packed 3D bluray in my setup causes the darblet menu to keep going on screen showing darblet percentage even though I have on screen menu set for off in main menu. I switch to 2D and on screen menu properly times out. In Frame packed 3D I shut off darblet and menu shows darblet at 0% but won't time out....This does not happen with Side by Side 3D content so that leads me to believe it is the resolution of 1920 x 2205.

I lIke the Darblet a lot but I need to physically remove it every time I want to watch frame packed 3D. I reported this issue to Lary Pace back in June and was lead to believe they were going to do some debugging but at this point they have not started....
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Too many comments/replies about this Darbee video processor to read. To easy myself, anyone has tried it with Oppo 83 blue ray player and Panasonic Projector AE2000? Any issues? How much improvement ? Thanks for advice.
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Too many comments/replies about this Darbee video processor to read. To easy myself, anyone has tried it with Oppo 83 blue ray player and Panasonic Projector AE2000? Any issues? How much improvement ? Thanks for advice.

Although I haven't owned your above components, a lot of folks here have Oppo's, and I can almost guarantee that you are going to see a NOTICEABLE improvement. Especially with the AE2000 which already has smoothscreen technology. Try one...you can always return it (within 30 days of purchase). I think you will be very pleased....

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Too many comments/replies about this Darbee video processor to read. To easy myself, anyone has tried it with Oppo 83 blue ray player and Panasonic Projector AE2000? Any issues? How much improvement ? Thanks for advice.

A nice addition to the AE4000 where the extra depth and clarity is welcome. Coming from single chip DLP the Darblet improves the AE4000 since I do not really care for the 'softer' smoothscreen tech over-all.

Some will tell you the Darblet works better on sharper displays and to an extent it does but do not be fooled into thinking it does nothing for units like the AE series projectors which are known to be soft/cinematic.

It benefits every one of my sources... HTPC, PS3, Xbox 360, Sony S1000ES BD player, Toshiba HD-DVD, wireless HDMI from gaming pc in next room.

I have yet to connect it to any display that could not see some degree of benefit once carefully adjusted.

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Too many comments/replies about this Darbee video processor to read. To easy myself, anyone has tried it with Oppo 83 blue ray player and Panasonic Projector AE2000? Any issues? How much improvement ? Thanks for advice.

I'd recommend using the "search within a thread" engine. Use "panasonic" as your search word. Since the projector darbee combo will have more impact on your decision.

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Guys, when playing a blu ray (1080p) to a native 1080p display via hdmi, it really doesn't matter what blu ray player you have regarding image quality---or whether the darbee will improve the image quality differently on different players. The 1080p hdmi signal is essentially being passed on unprocessed (not scaled, etc.) to the display. The image quality should be the same with any blu ray player under that circumstance.

The differences will come when the blu ray player is scaling the signal, like when playing a DVD and the player is upscaling to 1080p, etc. That is when the differences in blu players will become noticeable (and the reason Oppo's are popular, for their upscaling image quality). Whether the darbee would treat that quality difference (between players) differently? I wouldn't know.

Now, as far as the darbee playing nice with the hdmi handshake protocol between different brands of blu players, that can be different for sure.
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Well for some reason frame packed 3D bluray in my setup causes the darblet menu to keep going on screen showing darblet percentage even though I have on screen menu set for off in main menu. I switch to 2D and on screen menu properly times out. In Frame packed 3D I shut off darblet and menu shows darblet at 0% but won't time out....This does not happen with Side by Side 3D content so that leads me to believe it is the resolution of 1920 x 2205.
I lIke the Darblet a lot but I need to physically remove it every time I want to watch frame packed 3D. I reported this issue to Lary Pace back in June and was lead to believe they were going to do some debugging but at this point they have not started....

I think the evidence suggests that this problem is unique to your Darblet. I'll bet that yours is simply defective. Rather than asking when the Darblet is going to support 1920x2205 (it does), I'd be asking for a replacement unit.
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My Darblet works very wellon 2d material, but when playing 3D blu-ray the picture goes black..then comes back on..then black over and over. The only 3D film that plays all the way through is Dial M For Murder. L have an Oppo 93 ..hdmi to Darblet..out of Darblet with HDMI to Epson 6010 Projector.
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I think the evidence suggests that this problem is unique to your Darblet. I'll bet that yours is simply defective. Rather than asking when the Darblet is going to support 1920x2205 (it does), I'd be asking for a replacement unit.

Speaking of which:

 

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We are continuing to develop improvements to the Darbee Visual Presence algorithm. Check our website, www.darbeevision.com, for upgrade announcements. Your Darblet is upgradeable after purchase, although you will have to send it in to receive new firmware, and there may be a processing charge."

Since I don't see anything on the website relating to firmware, has anyone done this? If so, how much was the "processing charge"?

 


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My Darblet works very wellon 2d material, but when playing 3D blu-ray the picture goes black..then comes back on..then black over and over. The only 3D film that plays all the way through is Dial M For Murder. L have an Oppo 93 ..hdmi to Darblet..out of Darblet with HDMI to Epson 6010 Projector.

I had the same issue...and same setup..
Make a factory reset on oppo and try again! Worked for me..smile.gif
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Speaking of which:

 

"Future Viewing Modes 

We are continuing to develop improvements to the Darbee Visual Presence algorithm. Check our website, www.darbeevision.com, for upgrade announcements. Your Darblet is upgradeable after purchase, although you will have to send it in to receive new firmware, and there may be a processing charge."

Since I don't see anything on the website relating to firmware, has anyone done this? If so, how much was the "processing charge"?

 

 

I have not been able to find any information with regards to firmware information on the Darbee Vision web site.  I am also unaware of any process by which current Darblet owners will be informed of new firmware releases as they occur.  It is somewhat disappointing, given that manufacturers of other audio and video components make an effort to keep their customers informed (e.g. Oppo, which has a built-in update notification in their players).

 

I suspect that for now, we should encourage new Darblet owners to post their firmare versions so we can be aware if a silent update has occurred.  Should Dr. Darbee be monitoring this thread, it would be interesting to hear his comments on this important customer service topic.

 

Of course, there is the elephant in the room.  Since the Darblet does not have network firmware updates, and as the installed base of Darblets continues to expand exponentially, a new firmware release will surely be a logistics nightmare, especially if it offers any "must have" enhancements to the processing algorithms.

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I think the evidence suggests that this problem is unique to your Darblet. I'll bet that yours is simply defective. Rather than asking when the Darblet is going to support 1920x2205 (it does), I'd be asking for a replacement unit.

I was told back in June this was a bug in the software by Darbee Vision technical support, by asking the question of when the DVP5000 will support Frame Packed I now find out it has been supported. I will be requesting a replacement
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My Darblet works very wellon 2d material, but when playing 3D blu-ray the picture goes black..then comes back on..then black over and over. The only 3D film that plays all the way through is Dial M For Murder. L have an Oppo 93 ..hdmi to Darblet..out of Darblet with HDMI to Epson 6010 Projector.

I have the exact same problem as well with 3D. My setup:

Panasonic 3D Blu-Ray
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Epson 6010 Projector

I've tried Avatar and The Avengers. The Picture will black out for a second and come back. Also, once it does this the image appears to "stutter" afterwards. Not smooth at all. I also notice purple sparkles on the picture. Turning the Darbee off does not fix the problem. Last night I tried completely removing the darbee from my chain to the projector and the no issues at all with the pic, so the problem definitely seems to be the darbee. I love the Darbee for 2D. It is a shame it does not work for 3D.
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